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I was more worried about the no money exuse, every body has to start some where and riding with experienced people is a good start. If you can aford to fuel up your truck and sled you can aford a course and to at least rent some gear (proper gear means nothing if you don't know how to use it though). If you don't have the gear you should stay home! How can you put digging out your body on some stranger or a friend?... If you don't know what your doing you can put a lot of peoples lives at risk maybe that's fine for you but puting mine at risk and relying on strangers with proper training and gear is not cool. I've been that stranger, it sucks!!!

Yes I agree, the gear and training are minimal costs by the end of the season. As for being a stranger putting your life on the line for unprepared people you come across in the backcountry, don't do it. If I'm not comfortable with it then whoever is in trouble is on their own, even if I have to walk away from someone in peril if it means my safety first. Any first responder or emergency personnel will tell you the same thing. Never put yourself in harms way to save anyone, because if you get into trouble, now there are more people to save or more bodies to dig out. This is the first rule of the backcountry, never rely on anyone else to save your ass.
 

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Yes I agree, the gear and training are minimal costs by the end of the season. As for being a stranger putting your life on the line for unprepared people you come across in the backcountry, don't do it. If I'm not comfortable with it then whoever is in trouble is on their own, even if I have to walk away from someone in peril if it means my safety first. Any first responder or emergency personnel will tell you the same thing. Never put yourself in harms way to save anyone, because if you get into trouble, now there are more people to save or more bodies to dig out. This is the first rule of the backcountry, never rely on anyone else to save your ass.

I agree as well I will never put my life on the line to save some one being stupid but them being stupid in the first place put my life on the line. By going into the back country unprepared you are relying on some one else. I'm just trying to steer some one in the right direction with out making grave mistakes and lame excuses.
 

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Renting gear is always a option, your telling me you do t have $30 to rent gear ? What's your fathers life and yours worth to you ? No $ is not an excuse for ignorance and lack of common sense.

Sure hope your taking "Life skills and common sense 101" as your major in collage !

Yes I agree, the gear and training are minimal costs by the end of the season. As for being a stranger putting your life on the line for unprepared people you come across in the backcountry, don't do it. If I'm not comfortable with it then whoever is in trouble is on their own, even if I have to walk away from someone in peril if it means my safety first. Any first responder or emergency personnel will tell you the same thing. Never put yourself in harms way to save anyone, because if you get into trouble, now there are more people to save or more bodies to dig out. This is the first rule of the backcountry, never rely on anyone else to save your ass.



Modman you are right ! And I take back my comment, I apologize Joey...

I also think you should be renting gear when you go out next time. I took my wife out a couple times and did not want to buy all the gear until I knew if she liked ridding in the hills or not. I believe I paid $35 for two days which included pack, shovel and probe. I explained things to her and we did a quick little how to with the beacons. Even though we were ridding Bell, I wanted to make sure I had our asses covered and would rather be looking at gear then looking for it because you never know what will happen.

I am no avy expert and have come along way from my first trip out, I have learned from the courses I have taken and the people I have rode with.... And I have learnt how to treat the new guys and how not to treat them. Your first few times in the hills should be great ones.... Not filled with terrifying moments and times of helplessness, by being put in $hitty situations by your self or your group.


I hope everyone has a fun filled safe year and gets out lots!
 

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We all start somewhere. we take people out all the time that have little to no training but we require that they all have the basic gear, Shovel, Probe and beacon. We just have to ride different terrain without avy. training
 

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Modman: Your posts rock and thanks for the advice! I think I will be in alberta (mayerthorpe...?) for christmas, think thats the town my parents live in but not 100% but if you had time for a christmas ride, I get my break from I think the 12th till january so I could ride anytime around then, I can see about an avy course, but honestly, i'm flat broke, just put a grand into my truck, $7,100 in debt in student loans, still need to buy books, still need to cover my truck insurance and fuel. so no, I think not having the money in my situation is an excellent "excuse" for not getting the training, if you cant do some.....you just cant do it. like the means are not there.


Beachsled: don't worry about it man :) thanks for the helpful advice.

SLAYERMIKE: there are MUCH better ways to get a point across than by calling them stupid. that just shows ignorance and makes people throw your advice right back in your face. think about it. (This is JUST an example so please do NOT make a war out of this statement) but if a preacher said "You're stupid, listen to me or burn in hell" would you listen to him? no! you'd turn and run like hell. ignorance repels people, and calling someone stupid is ignorant.
 

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That last pic from braddock54 gave me the itch that much more... and it looks like good hunting there as well, just love the fall colours.
 
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M brothers girlfriend is up at Rainbow Lake and woke up to an inch or so on the ground!! She's not happy but i sure am!!!!
 

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Modman: Your posts rock and thanks for the advice! I think I will be in alberta (mayerthorpe...?) for christmas, think thats the town my parents live in but not 100% but if you had time for a christmas ride, I get my break from I think the 12th till january so I could ride anytime around then, I can see about an avy course, but honestly, i'm flat broke, just put a grand into my truck, $7,100 in debt in student loans, still need to buy books, still need to cover my truck insurance and fuel. so no, I think not having the money in my situation is an excellent "excuse" for not getting the training, if you cant do some.....you just cant do it. like the means are not there.


Beachsled: don't worry about it man :) thanks for the helpful advice.

SLAYERMIKE: there are MUCH better ways to get a point across than by calling them stupid. that just shows ignorance and makes people throw your advice right back in your face. think about it. (This is JUST an example so please do NOT make a war out of this statement) but if a preacher said "You're stupid, listen to me or burn in hell" would you listen to him? no! you'd turn and run like hell. ignorance repels people, and calling someone stupid is ignorant.

You came on here braging about a highmark contest with your dad, then came up with some lame excuse. Ignorance is going into the back country unprepered! I'm not trying to argue, I just want you to understand how dagerous it is and probably how close you came to killing your dad (what would you have done if he was burried???) If you don't want to take my advice fine, just hope it's yourself you kill and not your dad a friend or an inocent bystander. I don't think you want to live with that...
 

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It's here too!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nice pics everyone!!!!

I hope it stays and a.......

.EARLY ........LONG......DEEP.....WINTER!!!!!!!!!


 

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You came on here braging about a highmark contest with your dad, then came up with some lame excuse. Ignorance is going into the back country unprepered! I'm not trying to argue, I just want you to understand how dagerous it is and probably how close you came to killing your dad (what would you have done if he was burried???) If you don't want to take my advice fine, just hope it's yourself you kill and not your dad a friend or an inocent bystander. I don't think you want to live with that...

another perfect example of your ignorance that takes away all my desire to take your advice. just sayin.....
 
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