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this is a snow condition thread with no snow conditions, you guys wrecked it, reported posts
................. Are there places you go, that do not require any avalanche gear? I like hills.... but am trying to avoid the added expense of avalanche gear for now, when there are a million places I can explore without it to get started.
I just signed up to this site in order to access the forums and see if I could find out the current snow conditions for Cataract Creek. My initial search of the forums turns up this thread. Tell me, are answers like this typical for this site? If so please remove my account.
no idea why you are responding like this to a thread that is a year old? maybe give it a break, no idea what the circumstances where or why this was posted. for the most part help I usually post or a pm away, besides it is the internet, very easy to mistake remarks for what they are. I get that all the time. take a breather, a year old post is just that "old". try again, lots of good people here.
Hey, that's pretty sharp for an ol' fart that doesn't like cold and snow.
3 pages and some distinguished members missed that key point! I'm impressed with the ol' imdoo'n.................
Welcome too....Understood.... but that can't be expected from someone who has signed up 10 minutes ago. I have what ... 7 posts compared to 56,000... I've never done any sledding in BC and would *love to*. Are there places you go, that do not require any avalanche gear? I like hills.... but am trying to avoid the added expense of avalanche gear for now, when there are a million places I can explore without it to get started.
You will get flamed for even suggesting riding anywhere west of Saskatchewan without the minimum avy gear.... that said many who have it wouldn't know WTF to do with it if they needed to use it.
I'm not familiar with the southern areas, Doug (fernisnow) is a guru down there and would be able to advise where and when is best to ride. Keep an eye out on kijiji for used gear all you really need is the shovel/probe/beacon which can be had used for under $200 if you look around, then it's just a mater of training and practice but it all comes in time. Lots of places in the sled towns rent gear as well $35/day for the package usually. unfortunately this year is a chit snow year west of Moncton NB......
Just about anywhere west of the Divide and quite a few places in Alberta are avalanche prone. IMHO, all riders should have a beacon, probe and shovel. Some people don't know the hazards above them (cornices or avalanche history) and are oblivious to the hazards. We have seen slides that have brought down 200 year old trees (this area never ran this far in 200 years) and slides across groomed trails that have never been seen before. Some groomed trails have continuous battles with avalanche debris. Then when you are riding on those hills, do you know what it above you or what the layers are like?
I do not go anywhere without my beacon. I refuse to take people out of the parking lot without a beacon. If they are newbies, I will give them a quick demo on the rescue process. There are days, I could ride in the valley bottom, but I would still have my beacon and have it turned on. Small cuts on the side of the road could slide and push a sled and rider over the edge and down the slope into a bigger avalanche and then what.
For what it is worth, I see peeps riding avalanche chutes without helmets and no avalanche gear. I used to take a minute and talk to them but got told to F-off too many times. Enough was enough.
Like mentioned above, it doesn't have to be expensive. There are cheap ways of doing it (kijiji, rentals, friends lending you a loaner, etc..). If you are serious about riding in the mountains, it will be expensive to be prepared and do it properly. All the best.
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................. Are there places you go, that do not require any avalanche gear? I like hills.... but am trying to avoid the added expense of avalanche gear for now, when there are a million places I can explore without it to get started.
Sell your sled now!!!
Welcome too....
One thing I'm going to say, if u don't want to buy avy gear, then ditch bang
If u want hills and mountain's and scenery, then buy the life saving gear because u just never know...
Even if u ride the eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains ( ranger, hummingbird, onion lake ect) , because of temp swings and Chinooks, the snow isn't as powder but more like sugar and slides way easier... Way more prone to slide
Use ur head, play safe, u will ride back
Just about anywhere west of the Divide and quite a few places in Alberta are avalanche prone. IMHO, all riders should have a beacon, probe and shovel. Some people don't know the hazards above them (cornices or avalanche history) and are oblivious to the hazards. We have seen slides that have brought down 200 year old trees (this area never ran this far in 200 years) and slides across groomed trails that have never been seen before. Some groomed trails have continuous battles with avalanche debris. Then when you are riding on those hills, do you know what it above you or what the layers are like?
I do not go anywhere without my beacon. I refuse to take people out of the parking lot without a beacon. If they are newbies, I will give them a quick demo on the rescue process. There are days, I could ride in the valley bottom, but I would still have my beacon and have it turned on. Small cuts on the side of the road could slide and push a sled and rider over the edge and down the slope into a bigger avalanche and then what.
For what it is worth, I see peeps riding avalanche chutes without helmets and no avalanche gear. I used to take a minute and talk to them but got told to F-off too many times. Enough was enough.
Like mentioned above, it doesn't have to be expensive. There are cheap ways of doing it (kijiji, rentals, friends lending you a loaner, etc..). If you are serious about riding in the mountains, it will be expensive to be prepared and do it properly. All the best.
The moment you start thinking it wont happen to you is when crap goes south. Ease up on the hostility and have an open mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR-GH9_hS98
U where looking into cataract area correct??? I have seen hills slough east of the forrest trunk road... So what does that tell ya
Any hill with more than 20 deg slope can slide, u just never no
That includes toboggan hills too