Slip tank questions

[sirkdev]

So how are there hundreds of 100-400litrr tanks on the roads everyday? If you run heavy equipment I guess that's part of your insurance?

Nope....I'd guess 95% of people running down the road with extra fuel are not doing it "by the book".

 

[CrankShop910]

I'm not LOL

 

[Puba]

Sorry Max, 30l to 450l you will still fall under TDG Regulations and here's the specs for the tank.

60 l to 450 l	Drum or UN Standard IBCUN31A or UN31B	CGSB 43.150CGSB 43.146	TC57 Tank, andULC/ORD C142.13,built before 2003	2010 forULC/ORDC142.13 mobileRefueling tanks

 

[Puba]

Here's a link for slip tanks.

 

[Puba]

Nope....I'd guess 95% of people running down the road with extra fuel are not doing it "by the book".

Didn't say they were. Not my issue, Max asked a question so i chimed in same as you.

 

[sumx54]

Just strap it in and run with it... Ya you might get ripped off and ya you might light a van full of new Canadians on fire and not be insured. What are the chances. Half of us are running illegal tanks. I refuse to strap mine to the frame. It comes in and out weekly. So what. Never been stopped for it in 20 yrs.

 

[Puba]

I agree with Darcy, slap her in and go. I know I'm putting one in my new truck for the same reasons, whats the difference a slip tank or a shat load of plastic cans sliding around.

 

[maxwell]

It will be used in bc for very short distances. But I will get the placard and it will be gettin bolted down. Thanks for all the info

 

[Cdnfireman]

Careful guys. It's illegal to carry gasoline in a slip tank made for diesel. Diesel is classed as a combustible and gas is classified as flammable. Big difference from a hazmat perspective. It's legal to carry up to 400 litres of diesel without TDG permits but only 60 litres of gas. (Not 100% sure on the gas but I'm close).
There are very few makers of gasoline capable slip tanks. I guarantee you won't be insured without one and without TDG training and permits. Your insurance guy would flip if he knew what you were doing and if you're caught by the truck police it's instant impoundment of your vehicle.
Improper grounding and bonding of tank to truck to vehicle being fuelled can cause static discharge and sparking. Sparks and gasoline can be problematic.
Just so you know. Be careful if you decide to do this. Mucho illegal and dangerous.

 

[teeroy]

how many litres of gasoline do most toyhaulers carry? pretty sure mine is an 80 litre tank....but it's plastic I guess.

 

[Toyboy]

good thing mine is only 55L i mean if i had one lol

 

[Murminator]

Careful guys. It's illegal to carry gasoline in a slip tank made for diesel. Diesel is classed as a combustible and gas is classified as flammable. Big difference from a hazmat perspective. It's legal to carry up to 400 litres of diesel without TDG permits but only 60 litres of gas. (Not 100% sure on the gas but I'm close).
There are very few makers of gasoline capable slip tanks. I guarantee you won't be insured without one and without TDG training and permits. Your insurance guy would flip if he knew what you were doing and if you're caught by the truck police it's instant impoundment of your vehicle.
Improper grounding and bonding of tank to truck to vehicle being fuelled can cause static discharge and sparking. Sparks and gasoline can be problematic.
Just so you know. Be careful if you decide to do this. Mucho illegal and dangerous.

He beat me too it slip tanks are for diesel not gas....diesel up to 495L gas in transportable cans I think is 55L.....have to check my warning from the Valmount RC's and bolting to the frame doesn't cut for the cops there it must have the tanks straps bolted to the flimsy box *shakes head* if the diesel tank is over 495L must be placarded and you have to carry a valid TDG

 

[maxwell]

He beat me too it slip tanks are for diesel not gas....diesel up to 495L gas in transportable cans I think is 55L.....have to check my warning from the Valmount RC's and bolting to the frame doesn't cut for the cops there it must have the tanks straps bolted to the flimsy box *shakes head* if the diesel tank is over 495L must be placarded and you have to carry a valid TDG

My westeel tank says diesel or gas right on it. And the nozzle says unleaded fuel only.

 

[Mike270412]

Must mean you're good to go!

My westeel tank says diesel or gas right on it. And the nozzle says unleaded fuel only.

 

[snopro]

Yeah lets see what those Valemont coppers got to say when they see that tank with gas good to go on it.

 

[maxwell]

Must mean you're good to go!

lol. aparently not. this is proving more difficult than i anticipated. good thing i asked the question!

 

[Mike270412]

Kick the dog out and put tank in there.

 

[oler1234]

.diesel up to 495L gas in transportable cans I think is 55L.....

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Really? I constantly carry 3-4 jerrys of gas on me. refuse to pay for BC fuel prices...

 

[lilduke]

What about big drums of VP in a trailer? Is that legal/safe? aww fawk it who cares.........

 

[maxwell]

did a little digging

Question: What rules apply to slip tanks or tidy tanks?


Answer: The regulations are called the Transportation of Dangerous Goods Regulations (TDG Regulations for short). Part 5 of the TDG Regulations, states that most containers commonly referred to as "slip tanks" or “tidy tanks” must be certified by the manufacturer. This means that it must be manufactured to the Canadian General Standards Board Standard CAN/CGSB 43.146. There are certain times when a certified tank is NOT required. For example:
1) SLIP TANK FOR DIESEL ONLY (450 L limit – Section 1.33)
A tank with a capacity of 450 L or less does not need to comply with any standard if it only contains diesel. You will find this exemption under of the TDG Regulations.
Please note: You may NOT use this exemption to carry gasoline.
Also, when using this exemption:

• you do NOT need a shipping document (Part 3);
• the tank or the truck does NOT need labels or placards (Part 4); and
• you do NOT need to be trained (Part 6).

2) SLIP TANK FOR GASOLINE AND DIESEL (2000 L limit – Section 1.35)
You will find another exemption for slip tanks under . This exemption says that when you are transporting gasoline or diesel:

• you do NOT need a shipping document (Part 3);
• you do NOT need to display a UN number on the tank (Part 4); (Note: A label or placard must be still be displayed,) and
• you do NOT need to be trained (Part 6).

You are NOT exempt from Part 5 (means of containment). This means that:

• the slip tank (i.e. means of containment) must be certified by the manufacturer;
• tank is subject to periodic inspections by a ; and
• the tank(s) is/are limited to a total maximum capacity of 2000 L.