Sled deck on 1/2 ton?

[acesup800]

Recheck your math, you are over but not as much as you think.
1633 and 1724 is 3357 and 1550 plus 1990 is 3540.
Difference of 183kg or about 400# unless I am miss reading somethin.
You need a lighter deck like an LPI.
How much your deck weigh.
I would have thought the new aluminum fords would be legal with two sleds.

No gas and no chains and you should be legal.

Your truck should have between 2800 and 3200# payload according to ford specs. Can't see where you used up that much payload????
Lay off the cheese burgers bud! lol
I am also surprised that you can't haul two sleds let alone one!
But then I am not privy to your trucks factory setup.

Except for the fact he is 500+lbs over the rear axle.

 

[snochuk]

Except for the fact he is 500+lbs over the rear axle.

Ya but something not adding up.
600# per each sled and a 600# deck leaves you with about 1000# for passengers and gear at fords lowest rating.......something not right at all with the math.
He should be way under with one sled unless that deck weighs about 1400# and he weighs 800#??????

And no I am by no mears a ford fan....it just don't add up at all.



Plus this thread needs to hit 200 pages!
lol

 

[Chrisp1]

I put a standard Marathon deck (sides dont slide out) in my 17 f-150. Also got rid of 1 ton diesel for same reasons as well. The deck gives me a sealed box cover with security and I can load on it as well. I was as to load my sled and my brothers snow bike for a trip and without airbags it sagged the rear a bit but with just my sled it basically levelled it. I have the 5 liter with 3:73 gears and E range duratracs so fuel economy isn't stellar but handles the load alot better than I thought didn't experience any front end push mentioned at all. Looking to put in a set of tien load springs to help when loaded. Anyone have experience with them. Weight scale numbers are with sled, gear and all of ice build-up on truck.//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171115/1c7094837bd98fccad7bbab20e00b5ab.jpg//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171115/58da9b58b689378e3a2c0f8d88943951.jpg//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171115/f8c5990465d29961c368940f61a3265b.jpg//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171115/d29cd3a8597e008f91493bfd1e0500e5.jpg//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171115/22faf165a0d4b5923f584d89b7ce9c70.jpg

This was my post earlier in this thread. I had weight to spare on axle rating for my truck. I didn't have 160 litres of fuel but that's only couple hundred pounds.

 

[snochuk]

This was my post earlier in this thread. I had weight to spare on axle rating for my truck. I didn't have 160 litres of fuel but that's only couple hundred pounds.

If you took the bike off and put a sled on you should still be legal.
Just néed a load leveling system so lights not pointing to sky.
Like.....airbags.

 

[Caper11]

Problem with the fords is they have way to many different packages and weights. Not all 150's are the same.

We went to build a new service truck. The only package that would give us 19500 kg rating in the ford was with 4.88 ratio.
In the ram the rating was 19500 with all ratios.

 

[takethebounce]

Problem with the fords is they have way to many different packages and weights. Not all 150's are the same.

We went to build a new service truck. The only package that would give us 19500 kg rating in the ford was with 4.88 ratio.
In the ram the rating was 19500 with all ratios.

It’s really not a problem. Spec the truck you need and go from there. Yes not all packages will get someone what they want vs what they need.

 

[adamg]

It’s really not a problem. Spec the truck you need and go from there. Yes not all packages will get someone what they want vs what they need.

takethebounce, you are going to tell a Ford truck shopper that they don't _NEED_ that Platinum trim? I'd pay to see that in person.

 

[Mach1]

Yep very true with f150 went this morning to look and test drive and the lowest f150 was 1675ish lb and with what buddy wants Eco boost and the payload package is 2600lbs the rest all over in between. So with the top one there is no way you would overload that with 2 sleds and gear.....

 

[skegpro]

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[Lem Lamb]

I have Two 1 ton Ox'en pulling a wooden Oregon cart with an aluminum deck with 2 sleds. My plan is to travel from Calgary Alberta to Golden BC for a sled trip.

My intended route is on the Trans Canada hyw in the fast lane at O.02 kpr over a 6 week travel time "one way." yes I know that it sounds like it's pretty slow going, but Butch & Charley are 38 years young and it's been known that they like afternoon naps right where they are,,, even if it is in the the middle of the hyw. LOL.

I had a few narrly sled dudes tell me the get the F off the hyw, I apologized, but it's not my fault since I don't speak Ox'en,,, dosen't really matter since Butch & Charley lost their hearing 20 years ago. Ha.

I hope there is no GVWR on the home made wooden wheels on my 1/2 cart.

Yes, I know the rig is over weight, but that's a small insight into the mix since we don't travel with lights since Ox'en don't have changing systems unless they are learning on a electric fence or chewing on a power cord,,, I did paint a logo on the side of them stating that they are not Kows,,, that way the city folks don't get confused when they call the RCMP about dangerous actives of slow moving traffic at 2 am in the morning during a snow storm...

Oh well, what a guy to do.

If your one of those sled dudes in a big jacked up diesel truck, with a skull head wearing a army helmit decal in the back window, don't forget to rug it going past us and feel free to hang a fat one on us,,, this makes Charley happy since it reminds him of getting a stick in his eye years ago. Ha.

Thanks for letting me share on this awesome thread of Two Ox'en pulling a wooden Oregon cart with an aluminum deck with 2 sleds on top.

Reporting from the Calgary city limits as we get underway.

Kow Ox'en driver Lem Lamb.

Ox'en wheels West old man

 

[skegpro]

I have Two 1 ton Ox'en pulling a wooden Oregon cart with an aluminum deck with 2 sleds. My plan is to travel from Calgary Alberta to Golden BC for a sled trip.

My intended route is on the Trans Canada hyw in the fast lane at O.02 kpr over a 6 week travel time "one way." yes I know that it sounds like it's pretty slow going, but Butch & Charley are 38 years young and it's been known that they like afternoon naps right where they are,,, even if it is in the the middle of the hyw. LOL.

I had a few narrly sled dudes tell me the get the F off the hyw, I apologized, but it's not my fault since I don't speak Ox'en,,, dosen't really matter since Butch & Charley lost their hearing 20 years ago. Ha.

I hope there is no GVWR on the home made wooden wheels on my 1/2 cart.

Yes, I know the rig is over weight, but that's a small insight into the mix since we don't travel with lights since Ox'en don't have changing systems unless they are learning on a electric fence or chewing on a power cord,,, I did paint a logo on the side of them stating that they are not Kows,,, that way the city folks don't get confused when they call the RCMP about dangerous actives of slow moving traffic at 2 am in the morning during a snow storm...

Oh well, what a guy to do.

If your one of those sled dudes in a big jacked up diesel truck, with a skull head wearing a army helmit decal in the back window, don't forget to rug it going past us and feel free to hang a fat one on us,,, this makes Charley happy since it reminds him of getting a stick in his eye years ago. Ha.

Thanks for letting me share on this awesome thread of Two Ox'en pulling a wooden Oregon cart with an aluminum deck with 2 sleds on top.

Reporting from the Calgary city limits as we get underway.

Kow Ox'en driver Lem Lamb.

Ox'en wheels West old man

Safe travels lol

 

[Joholio]

Ok serious question. Do you weigh the whole truck at once or front and rear axle? Or both? Its not the W900L you think it is. Or?

Any 3/4 and one ton ive ran usually weighs ...truck full of fueland slip tank and tools, 4500-4600kg total. All 4 tires on the scale...

 

[takethebounce]

Ok serious question. Do you weigh the whole truck at once or front and rear axle? Or both? Its not the W900L you think it is. Or?

Any 3/4 and one ton ive ran usually weighs ...truck full of fueland slip tank and tools, 4500-4600kg total. All 4 tires on the scale...

The front and rear will equal the total of all four. You can’t be over on either axle or total.

Math is hard

 

[Joholio]

Math is hard[/QUOTE]

No need to be mouthy Danny. Thanks

 

[skegpro]

Ok serious question. Do you weigh the whole truck at once or front and rear axle? Or both? Its not the W900L you think it is. Or?

Any 3/4 and one ton ive ran usually weighs ...truck full of fueland slip tank and tools, 4500-4600kg total. All 4 tires on the scale...

Most highway scales will be long enough to weigh your entire truck. Which will give you your gross combined vechile weight.

But you may still be overloaded on the rear axle. So best to see what you have for weight on the front axle as you drive on the scale and then the rear as you drive off.

If you look at your door sticker there will be ratings for both axle and your max allowable gross combined vechile weight.

And as bouncy so kindly pointed out if you are to long, ie trailer, weight each set of axles and add them up.

 

[takethebounce]

Math is hard

No need to be mouthy Danny. Thanks[/QUOTE]

It wasn’t really directed towards you lol

Just a comment

 

[Caper11]

Axle scales are better imo.
The total mass of the pickup is spread over 4 contact points on the road.
Most scales that weigh the entire unit have seperate plates to weigh the axles all at the same time.

 

[skegpro]

Axle scales are better imo.
The total mass of the pickup is spread over 4 contact points on the road.
Most scales that weigh the entire unit have seperate plates to weigh the axles all at the same time.

Axle scale has atleast 4 load cells.

The one we had a work could hold a whole tridem and had 8 load cells.

After the monthly calibration pm it was always within +/-20kg on a 65000kg span.

Definetly more work to maintain a bigger scale and keep the snow off it.

But both are pretty accurate.

I think truckers like the axle scales better because if you drive across the scale slow enough the airbags will self level and transfer weight from the high spot (scale deck) to the other axles.

Don't know if there is any truth to that but had a trucker claimed he always weight more on a full scale rather than an axle scale.

 

[X-Treme3x]

I have a 2015 F-150 Platinum Eco with 6.5' box w/ sled deck. I carry a tool box in the back for work (wrenches and that for fitting). Just loaded a 15xm T3 163, full truck and sled and jerry can with fuel. No passenger or riding gear.

Door stick calls for 3198kg (GVWR)
Front axle - 1490kg
Rear axle - 1965kg
Total - 3455kg

If i removed the tool box I would probably be fine with 1 sled. But 2 sled even tho I've done it, I'm way over.

 

[skegpro]

I have a 2015 F-150 Platinum Eco with 6.5' box w/ sled deck. I carry a tool box in the back for work (wrenches and that for fitting). Just loaded a 15xm T3 163, full truck and sled and jerry can with fuel. No passenger or riding gear.

Door stick calls for 3198kg (GVWR)
Front axle - 1490kg
Rear axle - 1965kg
Total - 3455kg

If i removed the tool box I would probably be fine with 1 sled. But 2 sled even tho I've done it, I'm way over.

What are your axle weight ratings?