skidoo 2016

[Caper11]

Lol that's not what I'm saying. Like are the skis in the wrong spot for you or? End of the day it's an aliminum tunnel with track skis and motor all of which are different from brand to brand and you just get comfortable on one of them. I'm not saying they shouldn't keep re engineering the chassis to make them even easier for us to ride but what kind of chassis change will it take for people to not think its a "bandaid"? And when people say skidoo needs a new chassis what does that entail? What part of the chassis is not up to specification for your style of riding? No one has EVER explained this on here. Everyone wants a new chassis but that's as much as they know. Just new LOL. I just want a lighter chassis but that's as far as my knowledge can take me at this point in time as far as chassis design is concerned

I'd like to see a wider front end or a narrower body, lighter front suspension , the torsion spring rear suspension is out dated and heavy, there is a area of improvement. The brp light weight hood incorporated into the mtn chassis with a small led headlight, lighter weight seat, lighter stronger modules. Removable floating QRS, lighter primary, more rigid secondary tower. Lighter exhaust. Reengineer the cooling system for maximum cooling and lighter weight. For example the t3 half cooler in the tunnel is mounted to the rear, why not have it mounted towards the front by the drivers and minimize the amount of hose length and coolant in the hoses.
Belt drive vs the chain. I've been running my belt drive for two years and took it all apart for inspection a month ago and the aluminum splines are like brand new and I'm still on my original belt. Almost 1000miles on my belt drive system.
Just my 2cents.


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[maxwell]

I'd like to see a wider front end or a narrower body, lighter front suspension , the torsion spring rear suspension is out dated and heavy, there is a area of improvement. The brp light weight hood incorporated into the mtn chassis with a small led headlight, lighter weight seat, lighter stronger modules. Removable floating QRS, lighter primary, more rigid secondary tower. Lighter exhaust. Reengineer the cooling system for maximum cooling and lighter weight. For example the t3 half cooler in the tunnel is mounted to the rear, why not have it mounted towards the front by the drivers and minimize the amount of hose length and coolant in the hoses.
Belt drive vs the chain. I've been running my belt drive for two years and took it all apart for inspection a month ago and the aluminum splines are like brand new and I'm still on my original belt. Almost 1000miles on my belt drive system.
Just my 2cents.


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I think the coolers need to be like that as most of the cooling happens in the back half of the Cooler where the snowflap redirects it. This is just my findings from running sleds with tunnel extensions they do not cool well at all. Likely a better and lighter way to accomplish that though

 

[LennyR]

You're a ****ing idiot man. "One of the few who haven't been out riding a 174 pro" yea everybody has one of those. Polaris just did put out a pro with some tweaks and more horsepower. Every thing I say you argue regardless like a grumpy old man. A lipsticked XP..... You make yourself sound retarded... Total lack of experience. And yea... Benchmark.... First stock 174 3". Just like back when the 159 came out. "ITS TOO LONG!!!!!" Put your computer away and go sled so you can come back and talk like you actually know what you are saying.

Some people talk about them, Some people ride them. Keep talking buttercup.

 

[jhurkot]

Who even cares about polaris, this thread is about the 2016 MY ski-doo sleds. And today is the day.

 

[gibsons]

What time today is the release?

 

[jhurkot]

Oops, it's actually tomorrow.

 

[sc800]

No, it is today. I believe it's tonight.

 

[vodoo103]

Now it is today. I believe it tonight.

Their web site updates will be working by Friday.

 

[sledneck_03]

No, it is today. I believe it's tonight.

social media tonight, website tommorow. ability to look at a working website by .........eta unknown haha

 

[Lund]

Yea t motion was an aftermarket idea.il Lund you are a goof!! What are those aftermarket t motion suspensions called again? LMFAO. Pretty funny reading this crap you can tell pretty easily who actually Rides mountain sleds in deep snow.

Maxwell i never said that the manufacture's never came out with some of their own ideas, they DO, but the mountain sled is what it is today because of the custom builder.
You mention a couple of enovation from BRP and very true, but basic's things you are currently taking for granted on your sled today did not come from BRP or any of the other builder's
-Plastic ski's for example was first introduced by companies like Ekolm, which first started with ski skins, then made a full plastic, aluminum reinforced ski. The oem were building STEEL ski's at the time.
-Long tracking was something we have been doing since the early 80's for the mountain's. NO manufacture offered a mountain sled then, you had to pretty much build your own. Most guy's used Yamaha phazer and installed a track from a trappers sled. BTW it was mention by some one of the 16" wide track as an inovation from BRP is BS. The use at one time from all manufactures ranged from 14"-18" track's as a performance sled, even 24" on work sled's. The difference now is that BRP opt for the 16" while the other's opt for 15" for their track's. But wider track's have been around since the invention of sleds.
Lug track's, was never a manufacture enovation, but came from guy's bolting on plastic's to the OEM track's. I say OEM cause at the time that is what track's were OEM. Today OEM track's are mostly made by Camoplast, yes an aftermarket player that first offered track's to the aftermarket guy's.
Today we still see enovation's from the custom builder's like certain Lock&Ride system's for fuel tank's and tunnel bag's and racking, ect. Not an oem idea but aftermarket.
Like i said lot's of nice stuff out there but if it wasn't for the custom builder's the manufactures would NOT be where they are.

BTW as for etech...haha not a brp enovation but an acquisition from a famous marine company, acquiring is something BRP is well known to do.

 

[Lund]

I just wanted to mention that Bombardier first claim "MOUNTAIN" sled was in 1994. When the Summit made its dabut. I will remember that as the Bombardier rep. decided at the sled show to show off their TRUE mountain sled by having 3 big dudes carry it into the stadium and put it onto a pedestal stand. I'm sure the three dudes busted a gut doing so hahaha. It was the first all aluminum chassi from Bombardier and they claimed it as being really light. "ENOVATION" LOL
I'm saying Bombardier, cause BRP was not till later. BTW they were the last to come and play in the mountain's as an oem.

Anyhow not trying to down play anything from these conversation just saying that if you keep an eye on the custom builder's and what you can get a general idea what could come next for the oem.
I have a certain relationship with CR-racing and Chad over the years has built a lot of 4stroke turbo's and we all know the end results of a 4stroke turbo, they can be had as an oem.
Now Chad this year has pretty much put nearly all his effort in 2stroke turbo's, refining and tunning. He's not the only one from what i hear. hint hint.....i think its coming, but who will doit first??????

Yes sorry for the spelling...anyhow got to go...its work time

 

[Mike270412]

Innovation

 

[X-Treme]

Innovation

Thank you. Ugh!!

 

[takethebounce]

Who even cares about polaris, this thread is about the 2016 MY ski-doo sleds. And today is the day.

Tex is hung up on Polaris for some reason. Brings it up in every thread.


I knew you would be going to a Doo next winter.


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[BCAV]

I'd like to see a wider front end or a narrower body, lighter front suspension , the torsion spring rear suspension is out dated and heavy, there is a area of improvement. The brp light weight hood incorporated into the mtn chassis with a small led headlight, lighter weight seat, lighter stronger modules. Removable floating QRS, lighter primary, more rigid secondary tower. Lighter exhaust. Reengineer the cooling system for maximum cooling and lighter weight. For example the t3 half cooler in the tunnel is mounted to the rear, why not have it mounted towards the front by the drivers and minimize the amount of hose length and coolant in the hoses.


i think making a shorter cooler and putting it up front would be a terrible idea you would end up with an overheating issue just like the arctic cats and as for those cats i think its 12-14 that had biggest trouble makes it alot harder to cool it down with that stupidly placed cooler at least when the doos overheat you can toss snow on the tunnel and carry on.... sorry for the rant but thats not the area to start trying to lose the weight IMO

 

[Cat401]

I'd like to see a wider front end or a narrower body, lighter front suspension , the torsion spring rear suspension is out dated and heavy, there is a area of improvement. The brp light weight hood incorporated into the mtn chassis with a small led headlight, lighter weight seat, lighter stronger modules. Removable floating QRS, lighter primary, more rigid secondary tower. Lighter exhaust. Reengineer the cooling system for maximum cooling and lighter weight. For example the t3 half cooler in the tunnel is mounted to the rear, why not have it mounted towards the front by the drivers and minimize the amount of hose length and coolant in the hoses.


i think making a shorter cooler and putting it up front would be a terrible idea you would end up with an overheating issue just like the arctic cats and as for those cats i think its 12-14 that had biggest trouble makes it alot harder to cool it down with that stupidly placed cooler at least when the doos overheat you can toss snow on the tunnel and carry on.... sorry for the rant but thats not the area to start trying to lose the weight IMO

not sure who your source for info is but.....the front cooler on the Cats have no cooing issues. I have had a 13, 14 & 15 with the front cooler.....no issues. There are a few in our riding group with the front coolers...zero issues.....great idea in my opinion.....and no ice buildup in the tunnel area at all.

 

[X-Treme]

I think making a shorter cooler and putting it up front would be a terrible idea you would end up with an overheating issue just like the arctic cats and as for those cats i think its 12-14 that had biggest trouble makes it alot harder to cool it down with that stupidly placed cooler at least when the doos overheat you can toss snow on the tunnel and carry on.... sorry for the rant but thats not the area to start trying to lose the weight IMO

The short coolers weren't on the 2012's either. But, with scratchers down, my 2015 with the short front cooler doesn't overheat. (when you break one scratcher off she warms up...)

 

[LennyR]

I'd like to see a wider front end or a narrower body, lighter front suspension , the torsion spring rear suspension is out dated and heavy, there is a area of improvement. The brp light weight hood incorporated into the mtn chassis with a small led headlight, lighter weight seat, lighter stronger modules. Removable floating QRS, lighter primary, more rigid secondary tower. Lighter exhaust. Reengineer the cooling system for maximum cooling and lighter weight. For example the t3 half cooler in the tunnel is mounted to the rear, why not have it mounted towards the front by the drivers and minimize the amount of hose length and coolant in the hoses.


i think making a shorter cooler and putting it up front would be a terrible idea you would end up with an overheating issue just like the arctic cats and as for those cats i think its 12-14 that had biggest trouble makes it alot harder to cool it down with that stupidly placed cooler at least when the doos overheat you can toss snow on the tunnel and carry on.... sorry for the rant but thats not the area to start trying to lose the weight IMO

Sorry disagree, i really like the newer Cat coolers, no excessive heating issues at all, they work better than some of the competition, and i really like the way with no heat back there there is virtually no ice build up.

 

[X-Treme]

Sorry disagree, i really like the newer Cat coolers, no excessive heating issues at all, they work better than some of the competition, and i really like the way with no heat back there there is virtually no ice build up.

Yup. My tunnel and skid look almost the same at the end of the day as they do when I back out of the trailer in the morning. Almost zero weight gain.

 

[BCAV]

not sure who your source for info is but.....the front cooler on the Cats have no cooing issues. I have had a 13, 14 & 15 with the front cooler.....no issues. There are a few in our riding group with the front coolers...zero issues.....great idea in my opinion.....and no ice buildup in the tunnel area at all.

well i have a buddy with a 14 proclimb been overheating almost every ride this year and he was having problems last year in the spring but it was a warm day sled worked fine in the slushy snow but soon as it got dark snow hardened up suddenly he could barely make two miles without having to flip sled over and put snow on the cooler. Also know of a group of proclimbs having trouble in golden on skinny switchback where u cant get off trail they were having trouble goin over a couple miles at a time without having to stop which was leaving them having to stop in a zone where i wouldnt want to be stopping due to avy danger.

maybe its not a problem with all of them but ive heard of enough of the proclimbs having trouble that id say it could be because of the small front cooler.

Either way no one wants to be having heat issues wasnt trying to offend anyone im just saying it would be a shame to end up with a heating issues just trying to shed a couple pounds im all about keeping my sled running cool if i want to shed a few pounds ill hit the gym and keep my exchanger as long as it can be