Sidewinder belt drive

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Anyone that installed a belt drive in a sidewinder regret not having reverse?

Notice any difference?
I think its the best thing I did to mine along with the older style clutches, I don't miss reverse at all but I have a drive through enclosed so loading/unloading is easy. It dropped at least 15lbs and just seems to spool up quicker now. Not cheap but worth it in my opinion
 

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I think its the best thing I did to mine along with the older style clutches, I don't miss reverse at all but I have a drive through enclosed so loading/unloading is easy. It dropped at least 15lbs and just seems to spool up quicker now. Not cheap but worth it in my opinion
I had installed a C3 belt drive on my 2013 M1100 when I installed the bigger turbo at 480 miles, as the stock chain was junk. It was on the sled when I sold it in 2018, on the original belt, and after some pretty rough miles. That being said, I did miss reverse, so my 2017 King Cat is still running the reverse gear case - the chain seems to be better quality then the earlier offerings, and I don’t recall seeing a drive for the D&R case used on the King Cat when I looked into it a few years ago, and I modified my original C3 kit as I wasn’t a fan of the oil tank hose setup that came with it (I’m picky). Performance wise I can’t say it was a lot better if at all, but longevity and ease of repair on the hill is what sold me…
 

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I had installed a C3 belt drive on my 2013 M1100 when I installed the bigger turbo at 480 miles, as the stock chain was junk. It was on the sled when I sold it in 2018, on the original belt, and after some pretty rough miles. That being said, I did miss reverse, so my 2017 King Cat is still running the reverse gear case - the chain seems to be better quality then the earlier offerings, and I don’t recall seeing a drive for the D&R case used on the King Cat when I looked into it a few years ago, and I modified my original C3 kit as I wasn’t a fan of the oil tank hose setup that came with it (I’m picky). Performance wise I can’t say it was a lot better if at all, but longevity and ease of repair on the hill is what sold me…

That’s the reason I swap to the specialty belt drive on my cats, strictly a reliability thing and how easy it is to just change a belt. That vs a tow out and possibly lots of parts replacement is a huge plus for me


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Only time I wish I had reverse is when I have to pull the sled off the deck. I know 3 guys that have done it now and none of us regret doing it.
 

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These 4 strokes are tanks who wants a tank with no back up gear ? I don't think big power and belt drives are a good idea. But whatever you want.
 

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Other than losing reverse what makes it not a good idea. Shave off a ton of weight. Better throttle response. Easy gearing changes. I know of 2 guys that have had their chaincases blow up on them, no quick belt change there to keep your day going.
 

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. Reverse does come in handy at times. . I would be scared to run a belt drive on a turbo anything. Seen a lot of 2 stokes pop the belt drives. I guess if u are run that junk cat track it just spins so no worries
 

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My belt looks new after a full season, I was skeptical too. My winder is tuned and the belt drive worked awesome. If it blows a belt its an easy swap on the hill anyway. You can have issues if your belt tension isn't adjusted correctly but same with a chain. 15lbs weight loss, almost zero maintenance, better throttle response. Its the Sh*t!
 

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. Reverse does come in handy at times. . I would be scared to run a belt drive on a turbo anything. Seen a lot of 2 stokes pop the belt drives. I guess if u are run that junk cat track it just spins so no worries

We run 1000’s of electric driven pumps 24/7, 365 days a year on belts , many of them 300-500 hp and bigger high consistency pump setups that really put the torque to the belts. These pump 1000’s -10’s of thousands of litres a minute of 8-15% consistency stock upwards of 100’ straight up to the top of towers. I’m guessing a 200 ish hp snowmobile motor with low torque rating in comparison will probably be just fine. I’ve destroyed a couple diamond drives, blew apart a couple chains and cases but never shredded a belt….. Been running belt drives for the last 5 years and not a hiccup with reliability


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I guess like eveything the belt drive kits have gotten better over the years . What kind of belt drive is everyone running a the sidewinder
 

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. Reverse does come in handy at times. . I would be scared to run a belt drive on a turbo anything. Seen a lot of 2 stokes pop the belt drives. I guess if u are run that junk cat track it just spins so no worries
Maybe lots of Polaris in early factory days or alignment/tension issues. There are literally 1000’s of turbo sleds running belt drives in North America/Sweden/Finland/Russia
there is a lot of reasons why to have belt drive - weight - inertia - mitigate exploding chain/cases
junk cat track.. I personally think the AC ALpha track is impressive.
but agreed hard to be without reverse for old fellas like me.
 

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So what is the best go to on Belt drive? Never really considered it but I have one I may try it on. Im not even sure the brands out there.
TKI
Specialty
What else?
Thanks for info
 

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So what is the best go to on Belt drive? Never really considered it but I have one I may try it on. Im not even sure the brands out there.
TKI
Specialty
What else?
Thanks for info
Me and a few buddies went with the specialty kit, zero issues after one season. I was worried about another belt to break but seemed like the guys running them on the 4 strokes haven't had issues. Belt tension is important, Rob at specialty told me that the only way you break a belt is from incorrect tension or not warming it up. Throttle response is noticeable and the weight/maintenance you save is well worth it.
 

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Me and a few buddies went with the specialty kit, zero issues after one season. I was worried about another belt to break but seemed like the guys running them on the 4 strokes haven't had issues. Belt tension is important, Rob at specialty told me that the only way you break a belt is from incorrect tension or not warming it up. Throttle response is noticeable and the weight/maintenance you save is well worth it.
Is the specialty kit the pre C3 - like Bdx sells? Very clean set up…
 

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Is the specialty kit the pre C3 - like Bdx sells? Very clean set up…
You are correct, I looked at the TKI setup but it doesn't seem like they have a kit for the winder and I like having the local dealer and reviews were good on the specialty kit so went that route
 
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