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Seems a lot of people complaining that no work and people going broke ??
Media I know but someone in the know on this ?


there is a difference between no work and not willing to work for minimum wage.

To many people think if they cant earn at least $30.00 per hour, no sense leaving the house. There is a reason why there are almost all new Canadians working at Tim Hortons.
 

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I guess hey ? I just can’t wrap my head around that thought ?
If you need money to pay bills you go to work no matter what it is .
I am sure a lot of us have had to in order to feed the family.
I know I sure have and wouldn’t blink a eye to do it again rather then burn through savings and go backwards .
 

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I call BS. It seems to me, that is a business that is looking for an excuse to hire foreign workers that will work for minimum wage for a career.
Is the restaurant really that busy? If it is, why can’t the owners increase wages to attract people to work? Or is there a lack of people who don’t want to work in that town. Small towns usually have small town politics, and pecking orders attached to them as well.
Seems to me there is more to that story.
 

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Ha. Ok. I’ve never been to clairsholm. I will say that right now. But this is absolutely bs. So your a owner of a business. You sit down with your accountant and say hey, I’m losing revenue because I don’t have the staff and people are walking out. I’m losing profit. If your not aware or in the know of how hiring immigration works I can fill you in. I work for several clients that use immigrant workers. If you truly are losing profit............which your not .............business plan. A country restaurant, non-franchise restaurant has next to nothing for overhead. The have there lease or rent and then there food. That’s all. Nothing else. No service trucks no fuel costs, nothing. Nadda. Zilch. On top of this they get paid right then and there. They don’t way 90 + days to get paid. Haha. There’s no interest. This is a loop hole in our corrupt government system.
 

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Call that a bs fake news story by our Canadian media.
 

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Ha. Ok. I’ve never been to clairsholm. I will say that right now. But this is absolutely bs. So your a owner of a business. You sit down with your accountant and say hey, I’m losing revenue because I don’t have the staff and people are walking out. I’m losing profit. If your not aware or in the know of how hiring immigration works I can fill you in. I work for several clients that use immigrant workers. If you truly are losing profit............which your not .............business plan. A country restaurant, non-franchise restaurant has next to nothing for overhead. The have there lease or rent and then there food. That’s all. Nothing else. No service trucks no fuel costs, nothing. Nadda. Zilch. On top of this they get paid right then and there. They don’t way 90 + days to get paid. Haha. There’s no interest. This is a loop hole in our corrupt government system.

That's not quite right. There is a lot more cost than that, and you pay a premium for food compared to big chains as there is more cost for them for the amount of food you buy. You also don't get paid that day unless the person pays with cash. Credit/Debit takes time to be processed and sent to you.

But the biggest problem is finding someone to work for a lower wage, everyone expects oilpatch wage.
 

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That's not quite right. There is a lot more cost than that, and you pay a premium for food compared to big chains as there is more cost for them for the amount of food you buy. You also don't get paid that day unless the person pays with cash. Credit/Debit takes time to be processed and sent to you.

But the biggest problem is finding someone to work for a lower wage, everyone expects oilpatch wage.

The big food Chains also take a piece of your pie. I’ve never ate at a restaurant that lets me eat and then pay some other time. I’m talking about the owner. He collects the second you finish your meal. He also needs zero safety tickets, no safety program and he also knows about employment before he opened the restaurant.
 

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The big food Chains also take a piece of your pie. I’ve never ate at a restaurant that lets me eat and then pay some other time. I’m talking about the owner. He collects the second you finish your meal. He also needs zero safety tickets, no safety program and he also knows about employment before he opened the restaurant.

It's not as easy as you think. MasterCard takes time to pay you, whether it be 30 or 90 days I'm not sure. You wait for that for a while unless the customer pays cash, which very few do.

You do also need a safety program, although not as in depth as most oilfield people are used to, health regulations, WCB coverage, liability insurance etc.

The big operations also do much of your advertising and already have a reputation before you even open the doors.

We have a family member that owns/operates a small restaurant in a small town east of Red Deer, I can assure you I'd have a very hard time investing a cent of my own money in that type of business, much better ROI elsewhere.
 

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Ha. Ok. I’ve never been to clairsholm. I will say that right now. But this is absolutely bs. So your a owner of a business. You sit down with your accountant and say hey, I’m losing revenue because I don’t have the staff and people are walking out. I’m losing profit. If your not aware or in the know of how hiring immigration works I can fill you in. I work for several clients that use immigrant workers. If you truly are losing profit............which your not .............business plan. A country restaurant, non-franchise restaurant has next to nothing for overhead. The have there lease or rent and then there food. That’s all. Nothing else. No service trucks no fuel costs, nothing. Nadda. Zilch. On top of this they get paid right then and there. They don’t way 90 + days to get paid. Haha. There’s no interest. This is a loop hole in our corrupt government system.

Spoken by someone who knows nothing about it. As said unless it’s cash you’re waiting for money. If you have 10 employees working at $15/hr and you advertise anything more to entice people you also have to up all current employees wage. So it’s not a bit for a few extra employees, it’s everyone and labour is one of the biggest expenses in that industry. A successful restaurant can do pretty well but not getting rich and it’s a lot of headaches.
 

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I run my own company landscaping not large but there are exspenses that most peeaple don't see. Labour is the biggest and yes the newer kids think they should be making more money with know exsperiance . I had one pull that number on me this year he wanted a $4 raise after one day of work and claimes he got it from another smaller company I seen him working for { I think not}. Most peaple don't know that yes you pay out 15 a hour but after cpp EI holiday pay and other tax I pay I'm alot more than $15. Plus the guy that won't get of the couch for anything under $30 NEEDS TO LOSE A FEW TOYS he doesn't have my pitty . Get off your ass and get a job until you can find something in your trade or better I had it happen to me as many others have instead of whinning about it do something about it. jUST MY OPINION
 

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Living in a small town in southern Alberta I have watched our little restaurant start and fail many times. The two operators that did well at it worked like dogs with little help. These people saved enough money to move to more lucrative locations. The underlying issue IMO in these small community restaurants is a lack of volume. They typically can’t and don’t charge the same rate per meal as larger centre restaurants to attract patrons, further compounding the issue. In short lowering his cost structure may help, but I struggle to believe that hiring a lost cost immigrant work force would be a net benefit especially in a service business.
 

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“Whether it’s health care, food and dining, truck driving, construction [or] customer service, there is a challenge in this community to fill the jobs,” said Brady Schnell, the Town of Claresholm’s economic development officer.

This wasn’t just the food and dining that most are taking about .
Think the story is bull crap anyway.
 

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Spoken by someone who knows nothing about it. As said unless it’s cash you’re waiting for money. If you have 10 employees working at $15/hr and you advertise anything more to entice people you also have to up all current employees wage. So it’s not a bit for a few extra employees, it’s everyone and labour is one of the biggest expenses in that industry. A successful restaurant can do pretty well but not getting rich and it’s a lot of headaches.

You know zero about me. Don’t pretend. You didn’t watch the video obviously or we wouldn’t be having this conversation. The restaurant is Roy’s diner. Are they a franchise? If they are I have not heard of it. I am referring to non-franchise restaurants and diners. You are in control, no one else. If an employee walks up to you and says I want a $4 raise after one day of work you laugh and send them packing. The next thing we can cover here is......it’s 2019.........when a person comes in and buys as part from myself and they swiped there visa or mc the money is in my accnt within 24 hours. This guy in the clip clearly states he has to close his business because he doesn’t have the employees to stay open some days. Roy’s diner isn’t the only business in Alberta that has this problem. It looks busy in there. Probably makes great food.


Your paying for the government immigration assistant program, so am I. Roy’s not doing this because he loves claresholm ha. He’s doing it because the government is essentially handing out cheaper help. So he becomes more profitable. Remember now. They have to live somewhere too. What does our boy Roy do? Well he buys a house of course. Then rents it to his government assisted employees.

Só cyle ....do me a favor. At Christmas this year let me know if you get a Christmas card from Roy and the gang. After all you and I are investors. It’s the least he could do.
 

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Living in a small town in southern Alberta I have watched our little restaurant start and fail many times. The two operators that did well at it worked like dogs with little help. These people saved enough money to move to more lucrative locations. The underlying issue IMO in these small community restaurants is a lack of volume. They typically can’t and don’t charge the same rate per meal as larger centre restaurants to attract patrons, further compounding the issue. In short lowering his cost structure may help, but I struggle to believe that hiring a lost cost immigrant work force would be a net benefit especially in a service business.

You nailed it. Worked like dogs.
 

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“Whether it’s health care, food and dining, truck driving, construction [or] customer service, there is a challenge in this community to fill the jobs,” said Brady Schnell, the Town of Claresholm’s economic development officer.

This wasn’t just the food and dining that most are talking about .
Think the story is bull crap anyway.

The story is bull****. It’s becoming common place here now though.
 

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I was working in Fernie this summer and would go eat at the local ****ty''s.

guy from India owned the place and he brought in his staff from India on contact. if they tried to quit he could send them packing back to India lol

lots of local white chicks come in looking for work, but got shut down (he does have a couple though)

do I like it? no not really. I like the owner and the staff though.

the one chick fresh off the boat wasn't too bad looking, but fuk was she stupid...lol :p
 
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