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What payload rating does DOT go by? I bought new tires to the 3500 and they are good for 3640/tire. This is allot more than my old factorys were good for. Does DOT go by door sill or tire rating?
Payload rating??
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In Alberta the DOTs told us tire rating. Everyone else will come on here and claim different I say phone and ask them.
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correct, Alberta goes by tire rating rather than the GVW on the sticker. was weighing my 3/4 ton loaded with 2 on the deck at Grimshaw scale and an officer came out to BS with me, and told me exactly that. BC goes by the decal....
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Thanks, it sure make a differance if you want to haul a SXS and have 1000 to 1400lbs hitch weight with the travel traiiler and the payload is 2580lbs on the door.
At this rate the wife will have to stay home or is gunna have to lose some weight! LOL
At this rate the wife will have to stay home or is gunna have to lose some weight! LOL
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like everyone said ab uses tires bc door. imo both should go by the door as the susp and frame are only designed to carry
"x" amount of weight. we deal with that crap every day when modding the big trucks. why can bill haul 23000 on his drive axle and i can only get 19000. welll bill has a double frame sir. so what i havwe the same tres it should be good shouldn't it ya sure.
"x" amount of weight. we deal with that crap every day when modding the big trucks. why can bill haul 23000 on his drive axle and i can only get 19000. welll bill has a double frame sir. so what i havwe the same tres it should be good shouldn't it ya sure.
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So, how was sleeping on the couch last night? :d:d
Same as every night! LOL
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I agree, but do U think I could over load my truck with 17inch rims, no matter what size tires I get 3680 is the highest rating I saw? I can see it on big rigs, with their tires U ccould easily overload it!
not sure what your door says. i know on mine my tires will take alot more than the door says my max is.
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I emailed the "Ask Alberta Transportation a Question" Does Alberta Transportation go by the door sill payload rating or tire weight rating on my personal 3500 1 ton? Thanks....
This is what he responded
Thank you for your provincial government web inquiry of July 08, 2010 regarding maximum recommended payload for your 3500 1 ton.
Alberta’s Traffic Safety Act does not mandate the manufacturer’s assigned ratings; however, a peace officer may take action to remove your vehicle from the roadway if you exceed your tire's manufacturer's assigned carrying capacity shown on the sidewall of the tire, as this is considered unsafe.
While Alberta’s legislation doesn’t mandate the manufacturer's assigned ratings, we strongly recommend not carrying more than the truck manufacturer's assigned ratings; exceeding the manufacturer's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating GVWR may create an unsafe condition. As the vehicle owner you are responsible to ensure your vehicle combination is safe whenever operating on a roadway, including being safely loaded.
Manufacturers build vehicles assigning them a (GVWR); as you indicated the GVWR appears on the inside area of the driver's door; the GVWR is the maximum safe weight of the vehicle and it's load.
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Thank you for your provincial government web inquiry of July 08, 2010 regarding maximum recommended payload for your 3500 1 ton.
Alberta’s Traffic Safety Act does not mandate the manufacturer’s assigned ratings; however, a peace officer may take action to remove your vehicle from the roadway if you exceed your tire's manufacturer's assigned carrying capacity shown on the sidewall of the tire, as this is considered unsafe.
While Alberta’s legislation doesn’t mandate the manufacturer's assigned ratings, we strongly recommend not carrying more than the truck manufacturer's assigned ratings; exceeding the manufacturer's Gross Vehicle Weight Rating GVWR may create an unsafe condition. As the vehicle owner you are responsible to ensure your vehicle combination is safe whenever operating on a roadway, including being safely loaded.
Manufacturers build vehicles assigning them a (GVWR); as you indicated the GVWR appears on the inside area of the driver's door; the GVWR is the maximum safe weight of the vehicle and it's load.
so pretty much they said ya we know your over weight and its unsafe but your tires can carry more so givr.... only in alberta lol- Thread starter
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I'm not too worried, for me I will only be over my door sill by 100-200lbs max accually I think I will be right on the line. I just wanted to make sure I'm legal. Thanks for UR help!
Don't worry about it. On the 3rd gen dodge's the 3500 SRW and DRW have the same brakes, axles, etc. The only difference are the DRW has a bit heavier spring pack (air bags help to get the same thing) and the obviously differences for a wider axle, but same weight capacity. You can carry a LOT more on that srw if you got the rims and tires for it, safely then what the gvw is. You will not hurt that rear axle, AAM rates the 11.5 at 10700lbs I believe it is. Load away
I had my old truck up to around 11000-11500 without any issues. Truck handle it fine. Not a worry in the world about that kind of weight.
You got the mega cab to, which means you put zero weight on the front and all on the rear. So no worry about overloading the front.
I had my old truck up to around 11000-11500 without any issues. Truck handle it fine. Not a worry in the world about that kind of weight.
You got the mega cab to, which means you put zero weight on the front and all on the rear. So no worry about overloading the front.
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Its same with trailers they check your tires and they like you too have brakes to stop your load.
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Don't worry about it. On the 3rd gen dodge's the 3500 SRW and DRW have the same brakes, axles, etc. The only difference are the DRW has a bit heavier spring pack (air bags help to get the same thing) and the obviously differences for a wider axle, but same weight capacity. You can carry a LOT more on that srw if you got the rims and tires for it, safely then what the gvw is. You will not hurt that rear axle, AAM rates the 11.5 at 10700lbs I believe it is. Load away
I had my old truck up to around 11000-11500 without any issues. Truck handle it fine. Not a worry in the world about that kind of weight.
You got the mega cab to, which means you put zero weight on the front and all on the rear. So no worry about overloading the front.
My leveler bars accually put more weight on the front, which is good in my case , it will spread it all out. Air bags are in the works, just figuring out which compressor to go with. I know U guys like the other style springs but I want the compressor for airing up the kids toys etc!
Yea air bags are a good idea. The springs on these trucks are so soft it's not even funny. I don't mind air bags just so much more money. But having air for other things is good for sure.
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I was going to pull the trigger on a set of Carli rear but I think U lose too much hauling capacity
Air bags will take care of it, but regular air bags will limit your suspension travel if that's what your hoping for.
I had atlas full replacement leafs, with about 1000lbs of weight in the box (that's generous it was probably less) I had 3" of sag in the rear. Stock leafs I had roughly 2.5" for 2000lbs. And I am pretty sure carlis are even softer.
But, do you mean full leafs or mini packs? Mini packs aren't as bad as full replacement leafs like I had.
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Get the Carli air bags as well, it's a sweet setup!
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Saw those but they looked like they were for lifted trucks? Plus they are pretty rich compared to the old Ride Rites! Apples and pickles, I know. I dont expect to need 12" of travel!
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