NWR - Sturgeon Refinery producing diesel! Will prices drop??

[imdoo'n]

I guess I lead a life that is too sheltered, boring, out of touch, or not with the times................and I keep thinking I'm living the dream!

lol, you seem to be from a time gone by, were 1+1 =2, now i have heard 1+1 = 11, all i know is without a smart phone, math is impossible, welcome to the new millennium.

 

[Ronaha]

The NDP wanted an inquiries into NWR overspending, till they were informed that oil actually makes money and not craft breweries.

 

[skegpro]

If bitumen is refined into diesel in alberta there is a bigger benefit than the pump price, mined in alberta oil sands, refined in alberta plant, burned in alberta vehicles all good, alberta jobs, and the money stays in alberta, win win in my books. Now as long as our climate Barbie and moronic pm in Ottawa don't screw us over in carbon tax this should be a winner.

If the price drops she will make up the difference with a new tax.

 

[52weekbreak]

True about that but I prefer drinking beer to diesel

The NDP wanted an inquiries into NWR overspending, till they were informed that oil actually makes money and not craft breweries.

 

[busted2x]

And diesel just went up... Wtf?

 

[Cdnfireman]

Prices won’t change. The big refiners will sit the new owners down and lay down the law. They either toe the line and keep prices where they’ve always been traditionally, Or the big boys will predatory price them into bankruptcy.
Refined product pricing is the most controlled and corrupt monopoly in Canada. In no other industry do you see such price fixing and supply control that we see in motor fuels. They fix pricing based on profits, not supply, demand or commodity feedstock prices. Motor fuels stay around a buck a litre (give or take a bit) regardless of the price of crude oil.
This will never be investigated by government either, because big oil has influence not only politically but economically.

 

[j335]

And diesel just went up... Wtf?

Carbon tax increase in 10 days....

 

[spuds]

If bitumen is refined into diesel in alberta there is a bigger benefit than the pump price, mined in alberta oil sands, refined in alberta plant, burned in alberta vehicles all good, alberta jobs, and the money stays in alberta, win win in my books. Now as long as our climate Barbie and moronic pm in Ottawa don't screw us over in carbon tax this should be a winner.

Don't you mean climate Bimbo and twat waffle?
or is that carbon bimbo

 

[adamg]

One question I'm left with here. Wouldn't the refinery also be producing all other forms of petrols? Propane, 87 gas, 91 gas, kerosene, super ethanol 94...

 

[Ronaha]

One question I'm left with here. Wouldn't the refinery also be producing all other forms of petrols? Propane, 87 gas, 91 gas, kerosene, super ethanol 94...

Yup they are making all kinds of things there Air Liquide even has a portion of the refinery.

 

[imdoo'n]

hopefully there will be less fuel shortages , which may lead to better pricing. hopefully! but Alberta definitely needs to do more finished product, and pull windmills down, and get on getting on. friggin green"s

 

[ABMax24]

pull windmills down

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[imdoo'n]

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yup friggin eyesore! period.

 

[ABMax24]

yup friggin eyesore! period.

So is this. At the end of 50 years a windmill is tore down and its gone. These mountains are f@cked forever.

 

[imdoo'n]

will see i'm sure. i'm thinking they used part of this mine to likely build the windmill in the first place? unless there is some other way to make steel. HOCUS POCUS maybe.

 

[ABMax24]

You're correct that Grande Cache coal is a metallurgical coal mine for the most part. But how much steel is needed to build coal powerplants, or mine trucks to haul coal to coal power plants. The argument quickly becomes circular.

There are mines like this that produce solely thermal coal, and wind turbines can help to alleviate the need for this. 100 tons of coke to make a wind turbine results in far more energy being produced than 100 tons of coal being burnt in a thermal coal powerplant.

Anyway this is tangential to the topic at hand. So here's to optimism for lower diesel prices, all while the oil companies scheme of new reasons to explain why prices are high.

 

[skegpro]

So is this. At the end of 50 years a windmill is tore down and its gone. These mountains are f@cked forever.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4...JOCcqJVeObgaYpbqerTLMEUdPi44QTo=w1151-h647-no

Yup blows my mind that they would wreck a perfectly good mountain like that.

That kinda **** should happen in Alberta's prairie land. Strip all the black dirt and clay back. Take out whatever you want and then put it all back and farm it. Pretty hard to reclaim a mountain.

 

[ABMax24]

Yup blows my mind that they would wreck a perfectly good mountain like that.

That kinda **** should happen in Alberta's prairie land. Strip all the black dirt and clay back. Take out whatever you want and then put it all back and farm it. Pretty hard to reclaim a mountain.

Yeah its not a pretty site. Worst of all the company that owns it went tits up so now all the run down equipment is scattered everywhere. Probably going to be on the tax payer to clean up.

 

[skegpro]

Yeah its not a pretty site. Worst of all the company that owns it went tits up so now all the run down equipment is scattered everywhere. Probably going to be on the tax payer to clean up.

Well no other company is gonna touch it with the current government's stance on coal.

 

[Ronaha]

Aren't windmills bird slicers and make irritating humming noise,and by the time they are carbon neutral they are worn out?