New thread-dirtymax 2500hd towing 16.5K toy hauler

[j335]

Don't even think about a 3/4 ton with a trailer like that, 1 ton territory. I have a 3/4 ton 2011 dmax SLE and that's around my max payload and it's the same frame/power train as the new ones.

 

[the_real_wild1]

I currently drive a crew cab long box and have for the last two year so I'm good with the length. Id like a dually but I need to be able to park in a normal stall lots of times so it is out for sure. I loved my 2010 ccsb but always wanted the long box. Now I have that and missing the diesel part for towing. Every truck I have not got what I want because of the price. Always had to give something up and I think that's why I have been switching out trucks so often. Need to find the perfect truck this time.

Now you guys will laugh at me when I post this pic. This is the trailer I'm looking at. You'll think I'm crazy for even considering a 3/4 t but keep in mind I was looking at the tow ratings. At there were lots of places that said it was good for 18k lol.

 

[Trashy]

I currently drive a crew cab long box and have for the last two year so I'm good with the length. Id like a dually but I need to be able to park in a normal stall lots of times so it is out for sure. I loved my 2010 ccsb but always wanted the long box. Now I have that and missing the diesel part for towing. Every truck I have not got what I want because of the price. Always had to give something up and I think that's why I have been switching out trucks so often. Need to find the perfect truck this time.

Now you guys will laugh at me when I post this pic. This is the trailer I'm looking at. You'll think I'm crazy for even considering a 3/4 t but keep in mind I was looking at the tow ratings. At there were lots of places that said it was good for 18k lol.
View attachment 198177

I thinks it's time that you fall off your wallet and buy a 1 ton. The dually would be ideal and as far as parking goes, you'll just have to walk a little further...... Very nice looking trailer btw

 

[j335]

You're gonna be overloaded on the rear axle of a 3/4 ton Duramax with 3000 lbs payload. Yes technically you can tow weight wise.
Go 1 ton, better resale down the road too.

 

[snochuk]

2016 2500hd 4x4 diesel crewcab 6.6box is 13,900lbs gooseneck. You need a one ton, 16,500lbs behind a 3/4 ton is a lot of weight. I pull a gooseneck 20,000lbs behind a gmc 3500hd diesel dually. You know it's there but that dually sure makes it stable.

And the dodge guys, go pop your mirrors out while you drive around the city... Come on. My 2004 dodge diesel is falling apart with 219,000km, dusted engine, front end wobbles, driveshaft bearings all toast, rear end popping, rusted out wheel wells in the rear. We have a 2000 gmc 6 litre gas, 230,000km drives like its brand new still, no issues, just a fuel pump and regular maint, worked just as hard as the dodge.

Max. Trailer
Weight Rating
2015 Ram 2500 Trailer Towing Chart – SAE J2807 Compliant
Axle
Ratio GVWR Payload
Base Weight GAWR
6.4L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 3.73 9,900 3,380 6,521 3,699 2,822 5,500 6,000 19,800 12,810
6.4L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 4.10 9,900 3,380 6,521 3,699 2,822 5,500 6,000 22,800 15,810
6.7L CUMMINS DIESEL A6 68RFE 3.42 9,900 2,440 7,464 4,574 2,890 5,500 6,000 25,300 17,360
5.7L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 3.73 9,000 2,370 6,625 3,811 2,814 5,250 6,000 18,300 11,200
5.7L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 4.10 9,000 2,370 6,625 3,811 2,814 5,250 6,000 20,300 13,200
6.4L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 3.73 10,000 3,280 6,718 3,876 2,843 5,500 6,000 19,800 12,610
6.4L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 4.10 10,000 3,280 6,718 3,876 2,843 5,500 6,000 22,800 15,610
6.7L CUMMINS DIESEL M6 MT-G56 3.42 10,000 2,290 7,707 4,784 2,922 5,750 6,000 24,300 16,120

6.7L CUMMINS DIESEL A6 68RFE 3.42 10,000 2,360 7,640 4,724 2,916 5,750 6,000 25,300 17,180

6.4L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 3.73 9,900 3,160 6,744 3,894 2,850 5,500 6,000 19,800 12,590

6.4L V8 HEMI A6 66RFE 4.10 9,900 3,160 6,744 3,894 2,850 5,500 6,000 22,800 15,590
6.7L CUMMINS DIESEL M6 MT-G56 3.42 9,900 2,190 7,707 4,784 2,922 5,750 6,000 24,300 16,120


These are the rating for the 4X4 crew cab diesels off the Dodge Site.
16,120# and 17,180# depending on axle ratio ordered and transmission.
Why yes Merc my mirrors are flipped out while I pass the girly Garage Man's Companion while I'm towing a real load.

LOL
My bad I as off by 820# - same weight as some meat heads

All joking aside I try not to tow over 85% capacity regardless - like my stuff to last.
One ton dually would not be the wrong choice and this is Alberta - overkill is acceptable.

 

[Merc63]

I drive the dually everywhere in the winter, have to back into parking stalls and typically walk a bit farther. Looking at that trailer you are crazy to put that behind a 2500. Looks like a dually trailer to me. Once you tow with a dually you'll wonder why you even tried with a single before.

 

[armascott]

I have a 16 3500 SRW Chevy, pulls great payload is just shy of 3800lbs (it's a full load ltz) crew cab long box. I picked the Chevy as it is also a daily driver, the ride is fantastic compared to other 3500's. I did put airbags in it just because I have a leveling kit on it.

 

[snochuk]

I drive the dually everywhere in the winter, have to back into parking stalls and typically walk a bit farther. Looking at that trailer you are crazy to put that behind a 2500. Looks like a dually trailer to me. Once you tow with a dually you'll wonder why you even tried with a single before.

How is a dually on ice? Never had one, do they float at all with two wheels spreading the load or is traction like a single wheel.

 

[the_real_wild1]

Well after driving about 6 hours today with the wife we decided to compromise. She didn't like the trailer so the latest plan is to go ahead and buy the best truck we can afford and then get a trailer that we both like. She didn't like the layout of that trailer so the search will continue. But thinking I will go with a chev this time as long as they can do the right truck and deal for me.

 

[brendon444]

Whats the difference between the 2500 vs 3500? . Rear spring are heavier in the 3500 and is that it? Always assumed that was it. Brakes,engine,rear all the same between the 2 trucks?

 

[X-Treme]

Whats the difference between the 2500 vs 3500? . Rear spring are heavier in the 3500 and is that it? Always assumed that was it. Brakes,engine,rear all the same between the 2 trucks?

When I bought my 3500 in '11, it came with 18" wheels and tires, rather than the 20" on the 2500. Much higher load rating on the 18's. Like 400lbs more each.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

 

[Merc63]

How is a dually on ice? Never had one, do they float at all with two wheels spreading the load or is traction like a single wheel.

on straight ice it spins a bit more, but you'd hardly notice it. I think I have more traction in the winter from 4 tires than my single. I run studded winter tires on it in the winter for highway driving/sledding and hauling a trailer with a skid steer, works great. Having a good set of tires makes all the difference.

One thing the dually sucks in, and it's not designed for, deep snow like sled parking lots, if it's pretty deep, the front is really heavy and the tires are tiny, they just sink in.

 

[pfi572]

When I bought my 3500 in '11, it came with 18" wheels and tires, rather than the 20" on the 2500. Much higher load rating on the 18's. Like 400lbs more each.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

And the one tons don't have the stupid air sensors in the tires.
Brakes pads are bigger as well on one ton.

 

[X-Treme]

I didn't think the brakes were different, but I definitely could be wrong.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

 

[tex78]

And the one tons don't have the stupid air sensors in the tires.
Brakes pads are bigger as well on one ton.

One ton dulley has bigger brakes


One ton srw is the same as the 2500 hd

I didn't think the brakes were different, but I definitely could be wrong.

Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk

All manufactures 1 ton drw have bigger brakes than the srw of the same truck


Not only is the extra tire make gvwr bigger, but the brakes changed helps too

 

[the_real_wild1]

So hauling a triple vs a tandem obviously has always been better for braking as long as all three axles have brakes. Do they? I have never checked into that on these trailers. Only assumed they had them in all axles. Tires are easy to change out.

 

[Absledder]

I would hope the big 5ers have brakes on all axles considering the size of them nowadays. But every tandem axle bumper pull I've towed only has brakes on the front axle so you'd definitely want to check before buying.

Sent from my SM-G925W8 using Tapatalk

 

[tex78]

So hauling a triple vs a tandem obviously has always been better for braking as long as all three axles have brakes. Do they? I have never checked into that on these trailers. Only assumed they had them in all axles. Tires are easy to change out.

The trip axle toyhauler we had had 3 axle brakes, and worked awsome having 3 brakes, stopped way better than a way lighter 30 foot 2 axle trailer we had before, even had to use less gain control too

 

[Cyle]

Don't see the point of buying a 2500. A 3500 SRW is hardly more money, and it's virtually the same truck. Depending on make and year, the only difference is overload springs, and to a dually, in some models same thing extra leafs. Brakes on many are exactly the same. If it was a good deal I would, but otherwise i'd spend the extra $1000 or whatever it is for it all day long.

A dually is definitely more stable, but i've never felt the need. My 3500 srw short box pulls my gooseneck great. If I could change anything, I should have got 4:10's, and the upgraded tranny for the weight as at low speeds (like under 10km/hr) power is lacking a bit. Have had it up to 26k, over 5k on the pin, technically overloaded according to gvw because it puts trucks alone at 13k but handles great and nothing is actually over it's rating. Also depends a lot on the trailer, not a option with a toy hauler obviously, but duallies on the trailer handle so much better.

 

[catalac]

If as you say the king pin weight is near 3000lbs you will be way over your gvw on a diesel 2500, check the door sticker a 2500 dura crew 4x4 sb is about 2500lbs payload, a 3500 will get you upto 3700lbs or so. You'd be wise to go dually or never haul it to BC you might get a dot surprise.