My experience with the Tesla Model 3

[ABMax24]

Yeah those are pretty good points. I think in 2 years having an EV will be more realistic for that location. I wouldn’t have done it either if it wasn’t for the supercharger network.

Our plan when we bought her truck was to replace it with an EV when we were done with it, having a Tesla in mind, but we expected at least 5 years life out of it, not the 18 months we are on now.

The current gen of non plug in Rav4 hybrids are rated at 6.0L/100km combined economy, the Prime with its estimated 18kwh battery should do better than that. On top of that according to a 2017 EPA paper the 2.5L Atkinson cycle engine in the Rav4 and Rav4 Prime is rated at up to 40% thermal efficiency, the best gas engine they had tested up to that point.

 

[Bikeswithtrax]

That makes no sense, why would you pay to install a DC converter in your home just to charge at the same rate as the AC charger built into the car?

Nobody would do that.
A dc charger was mentioned, then he was making the point that even if converted to dc it would still only be 30 amps.

 

[Cableguy]

https://www.castanet.net/news/Busin...ng-for-off-road-electric-cars-PM-tells-miners

 

[X-it]

Perfect ... the stupidest prime minister in canadian history running with his vision to save the world, paid for by the taxpayer. This is a prime example why countries that think socialism is a good idea always go broke.

 

[X-it]

Neodymium ???

https://roskill.com/news/rare-earths-tesla-extends-ev-range-using-permanent-magnets/

 

[X-it]

Saving the planet one lake at a time.


http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/...use-of-a-thirst-for-technology/article/430511



https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/business/situation-critical-for-critical-metals-1.23616293

 

[X-it]

I must add for those who bothered to read the articles above, i had mineral claims for several years in the area they refer to as wicheeda in the rare earth minerals deposits near prince george. Some of my posts are still standing.

 

[Cableguy]

https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelow...pt-first-nonstop-electric-drive-across-Canada

kinda neat hope they make it

 

[jhurkot]

I must add for those who bothered to read the articles above, i had mineral claims for several years in the area they refer to as wicheeda in the rare earth minerals deposits near prince george. Some of my posts are still standing.

I didn’t read them but I’m going to take a guess that they are negative about EV ?

 

[X-it]

I guess you will not know then.

 

[teeroy]

Sounds like a lot of hassle. My pos F150 can receive gasoline from any retailer that sells it.

you have an F-150?

 

[jhurkot]

Left Revelstoke with 58%. Rolled into Golden with 20%. The navigation was pretty spot on with the estimate. Used 169 wh/km which is 13% higher than the rated range under ideal conditions. Temperature was between 1-5 degrees Celsius. Charging time was 13 minutes for a total of $4.84.

 

[Summitric]

So what kind of range would your car have in -30*c weather? I guess elevation wouldn't matter much with ev

 

[Bogger]

So what kind of range would your car have in -30*c weather? I guess elevation wouldn't matter much with ev

Just go back a few pages, he was reporting results during the real cold snap, I was actually impressed how little range was lost.

 

[jhurkot]

So what kind of range would your car have in -30*c weather? I guess elevation wouldn't matter much with ev

-30 is going to take 500km range to 260-320 I’d say. There are a few things you can do to improve things in this situation. Start with a warm battery if possible. Use maximum seat heat and minimal HVAC. Proper tire pressure. Drive slower.

 

[jhurkot]

Navigation estimate was pretty close again. Wet roads and 0-2 degrees celcius. Charge time 29 minutes and a cost of $10.20.

 

[jhurkot]

Used about 7% more energy per km than rated range. Temps basically 0-5 degrees the whole way.

 

[52weekbreak]

Selling newspaper subscriptions?

 

[doorfx]

???

 

[LennyR]

Selling newspaper subscriptions?

sorry. Screwed it

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[FONT=&quot]If you listen to the media, a green automotive future has arrived and a tsunami of electric cars is out­selling petrol and diesel around the world, transforming the planet and solving climate change.
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[FONT=&quot]We need a reality check. Battery-powered electric vehicles are fairly popular in urban China and California, as well as a few countries that heavily subsidise their drivers. But globally, fewer than 0.3 per cent of all cars are pure electric, and across Europe, BMW says, customers don’t want them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Unsurprisingly given the price tag, electric cars are often playthings for rich people. One US study shows the richest quarter of people receive almost all the public money spent on electric car subsidies. Moreover, electric cars in the US are driven fewer kilometres on average each year than conventional vehicles: 11,200km compared with 16,400km for petrol and diesel-powered vehicles.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Combine this with the fact 90 per cent of households that buy an electric car also have a conventional car that is driven farther, and a clear picture emerges: most electric vehicles are a second car used for shorter trips such as shopping and small errands — and for virtue signalling.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But aren’t electric cars better for the environment? Barely. While no CO2 emissions come directly from driving electric vehicles, they are powered by elec­tricity produced largely from fossil fuels in many parts of the world. More energy is also used to manufacture electric vehicles — and, in particular, their batteries — and this energy is usually reliant on fossil fuel.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Indeed, a new study from the International Energy Agency shows that an electric car with a 400km range and charged with electricity produced at the global average will have to be driven 60,000km just to pay off its higher CO2 emissions in production. That means a new electric car driven the average 11,200km each year will have paid off its carbon debt only after five years. The IEA hopes the world can reach 130 million electric cars in 10 years — a breathtaking ask given we have spent decades reaching just over five million. Even if we could do that, emissions would be reduced by only 0.4 per cent of global emissions. In the words of IEA director Fatih Birol, “If you think you can save the climate with electric cars, you’re completely wrong.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The IEA finds a hybrid such as the Toyota Prius is as good for the climate as an electric car when measured on lifetime greenhouse gas emissions. A petrol-powered vehicle emits only nine tonnes more across its lifetime. We could have reduced a similar amount through the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a cap-and-trade system in the northeast US, for only $US51 ($77.60).[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Yet governments dole out lavish support for electric cars. The IEA estimates that each electric car on the road has cost $US24,000 in subsidies, R&D and extra infrastructure investment. We could have cut almost 500 times the CO2 if we’d spent the money cutting carbon through the RGGI cap-and-trade. Little wonder the Dutch Court of Auditors recently ruled The Netherlands was wasting taxpayer money on subsidies, calling them “an expensive joke”.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And surprisingly, more electric cars often mean more air pollution. In China, which is the world’s leading electric car market, a study reveals that because China’s coal power plants are so dirty, electric cars worsen local air: in Shanghai, pollution from an additional million electric-powered vehicles would kill nearly three times as many people annually as an additional million petrol-powered cars.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Nonetheless, governments increasingly are setting deadlines for when electric cars will take over the world. Norway ambitiously plans to prohibit petrol and diesel cars in 2025.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Scandinavian nation has the world’s largest electric car market share, but this is propped up with enormous government support. Rules eliminating the costs of registration and sales tax can be worth up to $US70,000 for a single electric car.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Moreover, electric car owners save half, or about $US1000 a year, on congestion charges in Oslo. They also get to drive in bus lanes, which is great for them but leads to increased travel times for public transport users.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Additionally, the Norwegian state is investing heavily in charging infrastructure and grid upscaling, something Goldman Sachs puts at $US6 trillion for the world during the coming decades.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That is why in Norway a staggering 42 per cent of all cars sold last year were pure electric. But a new study for Norway shows how hard ending petrol cars will be and gives the lie to those who seek to transform the vehicle market. It finds that without Norway’s overgenerous subsidies, by 2030, only 9 per cent of all car sales will be purely electric. Even maintaining all the subsidies and dramatically increasing taxes on petrol cars while setting strict emission targets would be unlikely to allow Norway to reach its goals anytime before 2050.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The misconception that electric cars are close to taking over and will solve climate change is dangerous because it directs our attention away from the technological breakthroughs in green energy generation needed to reduce rising temperatures — and away from innovations needed to cut air pollution.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Electric cars are fun to drive and will likely be part of our future transportation solutions. But they will not be a major part of the solution to climate change or air pollution. Today, electric cars are simply expensive gadgets heavily subsidised for the wealthy to feel good while doing very little for the planet.[/FONT]
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