My experience with the Tesla Model 3

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Expert nope, general idea yep. Didn't realize the robots were writing the AI software. How is that AI working so far?

I’m no expert either but if you feed 2 billion miles of data with 16billion miles of video you should be able to train a computer to be a better driver than a human.
 

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They have had the system for 2 years ,taking in all seasons twice now on a new home. Not going to get even 20 year pay back after putting the money upfront.

I was looking into starting a solar company in 2017 (3 cents/kWh and more expensive equipment) but I found the payback time compared to system cost was unethical.

If they get an EV and use their solar production to offset gasoline they will have a quicker pay back.
 

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You know there are less hours of sun in the winter, right? Oh yeah I forgot snow and mud only checks solar array performance in the pitch dark.

Pretty much everyone that has installed a solar system at this latitude and climate has a system that underperforms by a good margin from what was promised. But I’m sure yours will be totally different. How much is the taxpayer going to contribute to the costs to install your system?
 

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Pretty much everyone that has installed a solar system at this latitude and climate has a system that underperforms by a good margin from what was promised. But I’m sure yours will be totally different. How much is the taxpayer going to contribute to the costs to install your system?

$0 is that ok with you?
 

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Pretty much everyone that has installed a solar system at this latitude and climate has a system that underperforms by a good margin from what was promised. But I’m sure yours will be totally different. How much is the taxpayer going to contribute to the costs to install your system?

My system functions exactly as promised. I was told my annual production would be 2699 kwh/year, last year I produced 2688.33 kwh, a statistically insignificant difference.
 

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My system functions exactly as promised. I was told my annual production would be 2699 kwh/year, last year I produced 2688.33 kwh, a statistically insignificant difference.
$400 per year of energy produced with this system? Takes a long time for payback of your original investment. How large of system is yours?
 

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$400 per year of energy produced with this system? Takes a long time for payback of your original investment. How large of system is yours?

Somewhere around there, depending on energy rates and how much I self consume saving on transmission and distribution fees.

I estimate 15-18 year payback.

I have a 3kw system, 10 300 watt panels, I produce less than an ideal system though because 2 panels point east and 4 west.

I've started a thread on it here:

https://www.snowandmud.com/just-abo...tall-performance.html?highlight=solar+install
 

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A person could just buy a 7000 watt Honda, and carry it around in the backseat, and a jerry can of gas in the trunk. Plug the car in at a hotel, park, while at the movies etc. ;)
 

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A person could just buy a 7000 watt Honda, and carry it around in the backseat, and a jerry can of gas in the trunk. Plug the car in at a hotel, park, while at the movies etc. ;)

Hotel has a charger, park has a charger, movies have a charger, what’s the generator for?
 

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Estimate 15-18 years at the rebated price.

I likely wouldn't have done it at that time without the rebate. I would've waited a few more years for solar panel and inverter prices to come down.

Numbers still don't seem great as you aren't factoring in any interest. If you factored in even 5% you'd be more like 25 years return which is likely the life of a lot of stuff, or less. Adding in the rebates, etc I doubt they'd ever truly pay for themselves.
 
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