My experience with the Tesla Model 3

[lilduke]

Tesla is bigger than ford, gm, and fiat Chrysler combined.

In terms of stock market value yes. Which is insane IMO But some say its going to go way higher yet.

 

[Cableguy]

and that is when Elon will sell off

 

[Bikeswithtrax]

In terms of stock market value yes. Which is insane IMO But some say its going to go way higher yet.

Then crash dramatically!!!

 

[Teth-Air]

GM is supposed to announce during the Superbowl that their entire truck line is going full electric. The President was on BNN and said watch it for the big release.

 

[jhurkot]

GM is supposed to announce during the Superbowl that their entire truck line is going full electric. The President was on BNN and said watch it for the big release.

I hope so. Everything needs to become electric in the next 5 years to have a chance at survival.

 

[Teth-Air]

I hope so. Everything needs to become electric in the next 5 years to have a chance at survival.

I don't believe we have enough alternative resources to make enough electricity for our needs in 5 years. It would take atomic energy or fusion to feed the world. To simply switch to all electric would cause mass starvation of 1/3 of the worlds population. Well at least the carbon level would stabilize, or at least until the bodies started to rot.

 

[acesup800]

I hope so. Everything needs to become electric in the next 5 years to have a chance at survival.

Is this a serious comment?? So, if EVERYTHING isn't electric in 5 years the planet is doomed? lol You think 95% of the population in Canada is just going to go out and buy all new vehicles in the next 5 years?

Not sure why you bother sledding then....

 

[Mike270412]

Where is the power going to come from to charge all these vehicles?

Is this a serious comment?? So, if EVERYTHING isn't electric in 5 years the planet is doomed? lol You think 95% of the population in Canada is just going to go out and buy all new vehicles in the next 5 years?

Not sure why you bother sledding then....

 

[X-it]

As long as you have no clue how electricity is produced, or any idea what so ever how much carbon it takes to produce an electric car or mine the lithium. Then being a hypocrite works just fine

 

[jhurkot]

As long as you have no clue how electricity is produced, or any idea what so ever how much carbon it takes to produce an electric car or mine the lithium. Then being a hypocrite works just fine

I'm a journeyman electrician. Why don't you lecture me how electricity really works?

 

[jhurkot]

Is this a serious comment?? So, if EVERYTHING isn't electric in 5 years the planet is doomed? lol You think 95% of the population in Canada is just going to go out and buy all new vehicles in the next 5 years?

Not sure why you bother sledding then....

Any manufacturer that doesn't offer over 50% of their lineup in electric, in 5 years, will be bankrupt.

 

[pfi572]

Any manufacturer that doesn't offer over 50% of their lineup in electric, in 5 years, will be bankrupt.

Hahaha
Okay !!!

 

[Cdnfireman]

Any manufacturer that doesn't offer over 50% of their lineup in electric, in 5 years, will be bankrupt.

That may be your wish, but it isn’t gonna happen. The only electric vehicles that are remotely viable for the average working class person are only good for short haul city use, and are being bought by people that do so for the feel good aspects of it , not their practicality.
Most people drive minivans, suvs, pickups, not cars. With that comes increased energy uses, with the corresponding heavier draw on the vehicle battery. Families in an SUV or minivan are gonna have the heater/AC on full, driving in stop and go city conditions with the corresponding heavy draw on the battery. Then they get home and plug the vehicle in. The electricity infrastructure won’t be able to handle it.
just a week or so ago, the Alberta electricity grid was at 100% capacity. Imagine what would happen if thousands of electric vehicle chargers were added to that. The system would fail, resulting in brownouts all over.
Electric vehicles, like most green energy systems are government subsidized exercises in virtue signalling. None are practical. Take away the subsidies and they fall flat. There’s a reason why electric vehicles are only a small percentage of total sales, and will remain so despite media and government trying to cram them down everybody’s throat. Few people want them, trust their practicality, or trust that the availability of sufficient infrastructure to charge them quickly will ever exist.

 

[jhurkot]

That may be your wish, but it isn’t gonna happen. The only electric vehicles that are remotely viable for the average working class person are only good for short haul city use, and are being bought by people that do so for the feel good aspects of it , not their practicality.
Most people drive minivans, suvs, pickups, not cars. With that comes increased energy uses, with the corresponding heavier draw on the vehicle battery. Families in an SUV or minivan are gonna have the heater/AC on full, driving in stop and go city conditions with the corresponding heavy draw on the battery. Then they get home and plug the vehicle in. The electricity infrastructure won’t be able to handle it.
just a week or so ago, the Alberta electricity grid was at 100% capacity. Imagine what would happen if thousands of electric vehicle chargers were added to that. The system would fail, resulting in brownouts all over.
Electric vehicles, like most green energy systems are government subsidized exercises in virtue signalling. None are practical. Take away the subsidies and they fall flat. There’s a reason why electric vehicles are only a small percentage of total sales, and will remain so despite media and government trying to cram them down everybody’s throat. Few people want them, trust their practicality, or trust that the availability of sufficient infrastructure to charge them quickly will ever exist.

That's wierd that you think an EV with 500km range is "only for short haul city use".
Model S has 600km range.
Model X has 530km range.

V3 superchargers will charge 10% to 80% in 24 minutes on a model 3.

EV actually does a lot better in stop and go traffic/city driving because of lower wind resistance at those speeds. Running AC or heater is not as big of a deal as you think it is.

I didn't buy an EV to "feel good". It has better performance, technology, safety, at less cost per km.

" Few people want them, trust their practicality, or trust that the availability of sufficient infrastructure to charge them quickly will ever exist."

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Any manufacturer that doesn't offer over 50% of their lineup in electric, in 5 years, will be bankrupt.

I actually agree with this statement. Given that an electric vehicle doesn't suit everyone's needs but neither does a 1 ton diesel. So many people make payments on vehicles that aren't used for the potential they were created for. How many diesel grocery getters are in your neighborhood?

Fact: the majority of people live, work and play within a 30km radius, thus the electric vehicle will out preform any combustion models.

Will the electric engine totally replace combustion? Obviously not, or at least anytime soon. There will always be the nay sayers but in all honesty the technology is growing so quickly and the numbers don't lie. Cost per mile vs hp ratings and maintenance alone are savings.

Even the top big rig guys have hybrid and full electric models now.

Anyone saying this isn't going to happen will be sitting here 5 years from now wondering what happened. Probably the same people that said the computer would never be popular

 

[S.W.A.T.]

That may be your wish, but it isn’t gonna happen. The only electric vehicles that are remotely viable for the average working class person are only good for short haul city use, and are being bought by people that do so for the feel good aspects of it , not their practicality.
Most people drive minivans, suvs, pickups, not cars. With that comes increased energy uses, with the corresponding heavier draw on the vehicle battery. Families in an SUV or minivan are gonna have the heater/AC on full, driving in stop and go city conditions with the corresponding heavy draw on the battery. Then they get home and plug the vehicle in. The electricity infrastructure won’t be able to handle it.
just a week or so ago, the Alberta electricity grid was at 100% capacity. Imagine what would happen if thousands of electric vehicle chargers were added to that. The system would fail, resulting in brownouts all over.
Electric vehicles, like most green energy systems are government subsidized exercises in virtue signalling. None are practical. Take away the subsidies and they fall flat. There’s a reason why electric vehicles are only a small percentage of total sales, and will remain so despite media and government trying to cram them down everybody’s throat. Few people want them, trust their practicality, or trust that the availability of sufficient infrastructure to charge them quickly will ever exist.

Most manufacturers are doing away with mini Van's and going with SUV style. As of today the big 3 have a full electric lineup, plus hybrids. The big foriegn manufactures are producing the same and there are currently 7 (that I could find in a quick search) American manufactures producing electric only vehicles. I'm just as big a fan of muscle power and rolling coal as much as the next guy but this is happening.

https://rivian.com

 

[pfi572]

The grids won’t handle a %50 increase and even it did the price of electricity would jump drastically due to added infrastructure costs .
Nothing is for free .
Solar and wind isn’t going to have any increase in power and be lucky if companies can keep up with demand without nuclear.
The electric vehicles are cool for sure though .

 

[snopro]

If the government can figure out a way to tax you on the sun and the wind they will. Take that to the bank

 

[S.W.A.T.]

The grids won’t handle a %50 increase and even it did the price of electricity would jump drastically due to added infrastructure costs .
Nothing is for free .
Solar and wind isn’t going to have any increase in power and be lucky if companies can keep up with demand without nuclear.
The electric vehicles are cool for sure though .

My kid has a aunt and uncle that have enough solar panels that charge their car in the summer and surplus goes to the grid. I'm not sure what the demands are for winter or what the cost was to get to that point as I'm sure it wasn't cheap. But it's a start. And yes the grids will handle it. Majority of BCs hydro runs at less then 50%. Actually for certain times of the year BC actually buys dirty (being sarcastic here) Alberta coal power and shuts down turbines because it becomes cheaper to buy then produce our own and sell.

Electricity is everywhere gas pumps are and more.

Maybe a electric car owner can answer this question.
How long would it take to charge a average electric car on a Honda 2000 generator? I would like to put cost of gas to run the generator vs time/distance able to travel after charge vs gasoline used in generator.

 

[jhurkot]

My kid has a aunt and uncle that have enough solar panels that charge their car in the summer and surplus goes to the grid. I'm not sure what the demands are for winter or what the cost was to get to that point as I'm sure it wasn't cheap. But it's a start. And yes the grids will handle it. Majority of BCs hydro runs at less then 50%. Actually for certain times of the year BC actually buys dirty (being sarcastic here) Alberta coal power and shuts down turbines because it becomes cheaper to buy then produce our own and sell.

Electricity is everywhere gas pumps are and more.

Maybe a electric car owner can answer this question.
How long would it take to charge a average electric car on a Honda 2000 generator? I would like to put cost of gas to run the generator vs time/distance able to travel after charge vs gasoline used in generator.

A Honda 2000watt inverter would take about 60 hours to charge a 75kwh battery. 120volt times 12amps equals 1440watts. Charging efficiency at 88%.
1 gallon of gasoline contains 33kwh of energy.