Making Alberta Regs! Lights???

[AltaRider]

Hey, I just got a 2001 CR250. I'm just wondering what everyone has done to their bike to make them meet the AOHVA requirements to ride on crown land? This whole headlight/tail light thing is such a load of crap ! I know lots of guys just ride regardless but I'm not into getting random tickets. The bike is in mint condition and has been geared down for trails, 1 tooth down on the front, up 1 or two on the back.

So if anyone has any suggestions or products to throw lights on the ol' girl, or perhaps some other way of making regulation, let me know. I'm guessing I have to buy a silencer with a spark arrestor in addition because it still has the factory exhaust on it. I hate to get rid of it because its still in pristine condition.

 

[takethebounce]

The best possible solution would be to add a lighting stator. With a lighting stator there is enough current generated to operate lights.

Honda CR250R, 00-01 - ElectroSport Industries

That site has both the stator and regular required for hooking up lights.

Then you could add any bolt on UFO style headlight and taillight with minimal wiring.

There is no stator available for my year of bike so I use a higher quality mountain bike light powered with a battery pack. They are bright, very bright. I have driven through tunnels with these no problem. I don't leave them on all the time but if anyone wishes to see that it functions or if I see a truck that looks like they are going to be checking things out I just switch it on. The strap wraps around the bar pad and secures it quite well. I did add a zap strap just to make sure though.



I picked up mine dirt cheap on ebay. But you can pay retail at mountain bike shops if you like. Then for the tail light I have a very small red bike light I have that I can remove from the rear fender very easily.

 

[CountryRider]

This is full of crap... crap all the way... I informed myself thru as many people as possible about regulations... RCMP, insurance companies, registries, military polices, and the governement... And they say u need lights only and if u ride at night... Also need registration and insurance... And ur good... This bullch!t of needing a light is bull crap unless ur riding at night... Also on the crown land here near the base u need to have a membership with jjparr and a member of the club to ride on the land, if not it will cost (fine)...

 

[Summiteer]

This is full of crap... crap all the way... I informed myself thru as many people as possible about regulations... RCMP, insurance companies, registries, military polices, and the governement... And they say u need lights only and if u ride at night... Also need registration and insurance... And ur good... This bullch!t of needing a light is bull crap unless ur riding at night... Also on the crown land here near the base u need to have a membership with jjparr and a member of the club to ride on the land, if not it will cost (fine)...

I'd say you are the one that's full of crap

ALBERTA REGULATION 319/2002

Traffic Safety Act

OFF-HIGHWAY VEHICLE REGULATION

Definitions

1 In this Regulation,

(a) “Act” means the Traffic Safety Act;

(b) “for hire” with respect to an off‑highway vehicle means that the vehicle owner or operator, or the operator’s employer is being paid for the service that the vehicle is used to provide;

(c) “night time” means night time as defined in the Use of Highway and Rules of the Road Regulation;

(d) “off‑highway vehicle” means an off‑highway vehicle as defined in section 117 of the Act;

(e) “physical address” means the location of a person’s residence in Alberta at which the person can be personally served with documents under the Act;

(f) “private property” means property referred to in section 119(2) of the Act;

(g) “registered owner” means the person named as the registered owner of an off‑highway vehicle on the certificate of registration of the off‑highway vehicle;

(h) “vehicle” means a vehicle as defined in section 117 of the Act.

Prohibition

2(1) A person who is less than 14 years old shall not drive an off‑highway vehicle on a highway.

(2) a person who is less than 14 years old shall not drive an off‑highway vehicle on public property unless

(a) the person is supervised by a person who is occupying the passenger seat on the off‑highway vehicle or is in or on a vehicle that is travelling in close proximity to the off‑highway vehicle, and

(b) the person supervising is 18 years old or older.

(3) No person shall permit a person who is less than 14 years old to drive an off‑highway vehicle in a public place except in accordance with subsection (2).

Rules of operation

3 A person shall not drive an off‑highway vehicle on a boulevard or on the median of a divided highway.

Use of headlamps

4 At any time during the period of night time or when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, objects are not clearly discernible at a distance of at least 60 metres ahead, a person shall not have an off‑highway vehicle in motion in a public place unless its headlamps are alight and are providing sufficient light to make objects at a distance of at least 60 metres ahead clearly visible.

Equipment

Headlamps

5(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle in a public place unless there are mounted on the front of that off‑highway vehicle one or 2 headlamps that comply with this section.

(2) The light from a headlamp must be white, and the lens and bulb of the headlamp must be made of clear untinted glazing.

(3) The headlamps must be of sufficient intensity to reveal a person, another vehicle or a thing that is at least 60 metres ahead.

(4) The headlamps must be aimed so that, on a straight level surface, the high intensity portion of the beam will not shine in the eyes of an approaching driver.

(5) No person shall attach or apply anything that colours the light from a headlamp to the headlamp, part of the headlamp or a bulb in the headlamp.

Tail lamps

6(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle in a public place unless the off‑highway vehicle has at least one tail lamp mounted on the rear of the off‑highway vehicle.

(2) The tail lamp on the rear of an off‑highway vehicle must be capable of emitting a red light that is visible from at least 60 metres to the rear.

(3) A light on the rear of an off‑highway vehicle must be red.

Exemption

7 Sections 5 and 6 do not apply to motorcycles that are operated in a demonstration or competition at a place and time approved by the Registrar.

Muffler

8(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle unless the off‑highway vehicle is equipped with an exhaust muffler that complies with this section.

(2) An exhaust muffler must cool and expel the exhaust gases from the engine without excessive noise and without producing flames or sparks.

(3) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle if the exhaust outlet of the muffler has been widened.

(4) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle if a device is attached to the exhaust system or the muffler that increases the noise made by the expulsion of gases from the engine or allows gases in or leaving the exhaust system to be ignited.

(5) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle if the exhaust muffler

(a) is cut out or disconnected from the engine, or

(b) has had a baffle plate or other part removed.

 

[CountryRider]

I'd say you are the one that's full of crap

ALBERTA REGULATION 319/2002

Traffic Safety Act

OFF-HIGHWAY VEHICLE REGULATION

Definitions

1 In this Regulation,

(a) “Act” means the Traffic Safety Act;

(b) “for hire” with respect to an off‑highway vehicle means that the vehicle owner or operator, or the operator’s employer is being paid for the service that the vehicle is used to provide;

(c) “night time” means night time as defined in the Use of Highway and Rules of the Road Regulation;

(d) “off‑highway vehicle” means an off‑highway vehicle as defined in section 117 of the Act;

(e) “physical address” means the location of a person’s residence in Alberta at which the person can be personally served with documents under the Act;

(f) “private property” means property referred to in section 119(2) of the Act;

(g) “registered owner” means the person named as the registered owner of an off‑highway vehicle on the certificate of registration of the off‑highway vehicle;

(h) “vehicle” means a vehicle as defined in section 117 of the Act.

Prohibition

2(1) A person who is less than 14 years old shall not drive an off‑highway vehicle on a highway.

(2) a person who is less than 14 years old shall not drive an off‑highway vehicle on public property unless

(a) the person is supervised by a person who is occupying the passenger seat on the off‑highway vehicle or is in or on a vehicle that is travelling in close proximity to the off‑highway vehicle, and

(b) the person supervising is 18 years old or older.

(3) No person shall permit a person who is less than 14 years old to drive an off‑highway vehicle in a public place except in accordance with subsection (2).

Rules of operation

3 A person shall not drive an off‑highway vehicle on a boulevard or on the median of a divided highway.

Use of headlamps

4 At any time during the period of night time or when, due to insufficient light or unfavourable atmospheric conditions, objects are not clearly discernible at a distance of at least 60 metres ahead, a person shall not have an off‑highway vehicle in motion in a public place unless its headlamps are alight and are providing sufficient light to make objects at a distance of at least 60 metres ahead clearly visible.

Equipment

Headlamps

5(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle in a public place unless there are mounted on the front of that off‑highway vehicle one or 2 headlamps that comply with this section.

(2) The light from a headlamp must be white, and the lens and bulb of the headlamp must be made of clear untinted glazing.

(3) The headlamps must be of sufficient intensity to reveal a person, another vehicle or a thing that is at least 60 metres ahead.

(4) The headlamps must be aimed so that, on a straight level surface, the high intensity portion of the beam will not shine in the eyes of an approaching driver.

(5) No person shall attach or apply anything that colours the light from a headlamp to the headlamp, part of the headlamp or a bulb in the headlamp.

Tail lamps

6(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle in a public place unless the off‑highway vehicle has at least one tail lamp mounted on the rear of the off‑highway vehicle.

(2) The tail lamp on the rear of an off‑highway vehicle must be capable of emitting a red light that is visible from at least 60 metres to the rear.

(3) A light on the rear of an off‑highway vehicle must be red.

Exemption

7 Sections 5 and 6 do not apply to motorcycles that are operated in a demonstration or competition at a place and time approved by the Registrar.

Muffler

8(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle unless the off‑highway vehicle is equipped with an exhaust muffler that complies with this section.

(2) An exhaust muffler must cool and expel the exhaust gases from the engine without excessive noise and without producing flames or sparks.

(3) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle if the exhaust outlet of the muffler has been widened.

(4) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle if a device is attached to the exhaust system or the muffler that increases the noise made by the expulsion of gases from the engine or allows gases in or leaving the exhaust system to be ignited.

(5) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle if the exhaust muffler

(a) is cut out or disconnected from the engine, or

(b) has had a baffle plate or other part removed.

Heey man im just sayin... I even showed this law/ act to all of the rcmp and registries and crap, they told me tht the head lamp act is only in regard to riding at night (if u ride head lamp use 4.) So like i said before unless ur riding at night u dnt need a head lamp...

 

[takethebounce]

This is full of crap... crap all the way... I informed myself thru as many people as possible about regulations... RCMP, insurance companies, registries, military polices, and the governement... And they say u need lights only and if u ride at night... Also need registration and insurance... And ur good... This bullch!t of needing a light is bull crap unless ur riding at night... Also on the crown land here near the base u need to have a membership with jjparr and a member of the club to ride on the land, if not it will cost (fine)...

Really though, you say its crap are you going to pay my fine for me?

Its the law as its written, plain and simple. Why is there such an arguement every year about it? Hey lets argue about registration plates while we are at it.

The vehicle has to be equiped with the lights, they don't have to be on unless its lowlight conditions.

Maybe in the area you ride you are fortunate enough that the law enforcement groups in your area don't enforce it. But it is what it is. Many people who ride in the Ghost/Waiporous and Mclean creek areas down here are stopped all the time looking for lights and registration.

Yeah it may be crap that we are required to have it yet are not required to wear helmets but its not going away.

 

[CountryRider]

Really though, you say its crap are you going to pay my fine for me?

Its the law as its written, plain and simple. Why is there such an arguement every year about it? Hey lets argue about registration plates while we are at it.

The vehicle has to be equiped with the lights, they don't have to be on unless its lowlight conditions.

Maybe in the area you ride you are fortunate enough that the law enforcement groups in your area don't enforce it. But it is what it is. Many people who ride in the Ghost/Waiporous and Mclean creek areas down here are stopped all the time looking for lights and registration.

Yeah it may be crap that we are required to have it yet are not required to wear helmets but its not going away.

Srry bro i dnt want to argue, im just sayin that the act is way to brod... Any body can look at it any way they want to,and inforce it any way they want to... Just sayin...

 

[kbrunlees]

Think about it logically, you start off riding in the morning one of you gets into a little trouble next thing you know it is dark and YOU have no lights. It is real easy to run into the back of someone who has no tail light or for that matter has no headlight. It is for everyones protection. Regulations come into effect because the public demands it. If you feel strongly enough you can petition the government to remove this part of the reg's but don't be surprised when a number of groups come out against you. This is the way things happen. Such is life.

 

[what_next]

duct tape a flashlight
donezo

anyways thats how i'm gonna go about it if no one informs me of a better way

 

[LID]

It's worth spending 50 bucks or so to get cheapo lights. You can probably get away with it, but the day the SRD guy pulls you over and interprets the "open to interpretation" rules exactly as they are written is the day you'll be regretting not getting cheap lights. 50 bucks is definitely worth not losing a prime riding day. I've gotten tickets in the past, and I talk to the SRD guys all the time while out riding. Those are the rules and you can go by what some person at a desk at the registry says, or go by what the SRD guys, the ones giving the tickets, have to say.

On top of that, while you are getting written up at the staging area, there will be some dummy with no helmet, sneakers, and sweat pants doing wheelies back and forth behind you on the paved access road with the loudest no-muffler KX250 you have ever heard, but the SRD guy won't go get him as he has to finish your paperwork for riding McLean before May 1st. True story.

 

[AltaRider]

Well looks like I'll have to pay the $350-$400 beans to get a proper headlight/tail light. I'm not a fan of any of the aftermarket headlight styles out there either . Frankly they just look downright poor. I like dirtbikes without headlights and tail lights. Seen in another post about the dirt rider 2001 CR250 that they converted to a offroader with that electrosport kit. Guess thats the way I'll go. It looks ok, they should have color matched the light housing with the rest of teh plastics though.

So is there anyway around buying a new silencer that has a spark arrestor or am I totaly screwed in that department too? Like can I stick some wire mesh in the existing one?

 

[winterax]

Considering all the fires in the province last week or so & the fact there have been no lightning strikes lately, you can bet your last dollar that SRD is going to be looking at spark arrestors really closely when they pull you over. Screens in the exhaust won't cut it, get a proper spark arrestor.

 

[AltaRider]

Son of a capital B!!! Well whats the cheapest route? Is there slip ons a guy can get or is it buy a new one?

Also, I'm wanting to get into some hare scrambles, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you got to be under 96dB? I was checking Pro Circuit and FMF but I only found one that ever listed what sound level it emits. Now I know people are going to say well it depends on the bike and mods etc.., but a nice range of likely sound levels would be nice. Last thing a guy wants to do is drop $100-$400 on something that doesn't make the cut.

Suggestions?

 

[takethebounce]

Actually - haha now here goes the interepting of the laws...

It does not specify anywhere it must be a "Spark Arresting" muffler. In the US and maybe some parts of Canada they must have US Forrestry approved Spark Arrestors.

What AB law says is - Muffler

8(1) No person shall drive an off‑highway vehicle unless the off‑highway vehicle is equipped with an exhaust muffler that complies with this section.

(2) An exhaust muffler must cool and expel the exhaust gases from the engine without excessive noise and without producing flames or sparks.

So if you have a stock exhaust that does not produce flames or sparks, you are safe. I have never been asked to show I have a spark screen, or an approved spark arresting exhaust. Not to say it couldn't happen.

All new exhausts for the most part have a low db rating for noise and have a removable spark screen. I don't know for the race series you are looking at if you need to be within a certain noise range but its best to check with them before spending money on the wrong item.


For about $200 you could get this....

Meets all the requirements.

Oh even better! Nature Friendly! I forgot about these! Be about $185 shipped. Not bad for an approved slip on. ANd really I am not against spark arresting exhausts. They are a good idea for trail riders.

 

[CountryRider]

It's worth spending 50 bucks or so to get cheapo lights. You can probably get away with it, but the day the SRD guy pulls you over and interprets the "open to interpretation" rules exactly as they are written is the day you'll be regretting not getting cheap lights. 50 bucks is definitely worth not losing a prime riding day. I've gotten tickets in the past, and I talk to the SRD guys all the time while out riding. Those are the rules and you can go by what some person at a desk at the registry says, or go by what the SRD guys, the ones giving the tickets, have to say.

On top of that, while you are getting written up at the staging area, there will be some dummy with no helmet, sneakers, and sweat pants doing wheelies back and forth behind you on the paved access road with the loudest no-muffler KX250 you have ever heard, but the SRD guy won't go get him as he has to finish your paperwork for riding McLean before May 1st. True story.

Lol you mean like this...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLa5jPgIEGI[/media]

 

[AltaRider]

So if you have a stock exhaust that does not produce flames or sparks, you are safe. I have never been asked to show I have a spark screen, or an approved spark arresting exhaust. Not to say it couldn't happen.

Maybe I should fire up the bike at midnight, piss the neighbors off, and see if there is a "flame" that comes out the ass end. How in the devil would they ever prove that on the spot, particularily in the daytime when I would be riding? I gaurantee they could be jerks and ruin a guy's day but I imagine you could fight that ticket.

Ya thats the only one I have seen that specifically states 96dB. Probably just end up gettuing that one.

ANd really I am not against spark arresting exhausts. They are a good idea for trail riders.

I'm not against them either. Just trying to take baby steps in buying stuff and still ride. Think you get a deal on a bike then try and make it into a offroad bike and the $$$ keeps going up. Lets see; headlight and stator kit ~$400, spark arrestor silencer ~$200, fork seal kits and necessary tools and fluid ~ $120-$150, insurance and registration ~$100, chain ~$100. Haven't even gotten to spare sets of inner tubes and tires. Hard to get everything all at once. Paychecks only net so much a month. All in the name of the sport though I guess.

Lol you mean like this...
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLa5jPgIEGI[/media]

Haha no way that can be real!!!

 

[what_next]

no one said it was cheap

 

[Marauder01]

no one said it was cheap

yep and it really isnt...


i mean, the regs arent that strict when you really look at them..

headlight, brake light, and an approved exhaust system..

its just common that people have bikes that were/are meant for motocross, and we try to use them on trails and on crown land..

thats the pickle most people find themselves in

 

[what_next]

yep and it really isnt...


i mean, the regs arent that strict when you really look at them..

headlight, brake light, and an approved exhaust system..

its just common that people have bikes that were/are meant for motocross, and we try to use them on trails and on crown land..

thats the pickle most people find themselves in

mmm i love pickles...... especially Vlasic's

 

[Marauder01]

pickles do rule!
LMFAO