Keystone XL Pipeline

[ATV Rancher]

Not like this is a surprise.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-green-energy-agenda-campaign-donations

The green industry heavily relies on government-awarded funds, and with Biden promising to lean heavily in their direction, the industry as a whole contributed more than $11 million in political donations in 2020, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The center noted that while this amount pales in comparison to the $1 billion Biden's campaign raised in total, it is still more than double what the industry had given in the past.

 

[snopro]

Not like this is a surprise.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-green-energy-agenda-campaign-donations

Nice to know the only way that we transition to green is with taxpayers wallets. Gotta love that.

 

[Cdnfireman]

Nice to know the only way that we transition to green is with taxpayers wallets. Gotta love that.

Green doesn’t work without huge taxpayer handouts.....never has anywhere in the world, never will.....

 

[rknight111]

Letters are going out from US states that want this to keep going, https://www.foxnews.com/politics/manchin-letter-biden-reverse-keystone-xl-pipeline-order

 

[catalac]

Not like this is a surprise.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-green-energy-agenda-campaign-donations

sort of like buffet contributing 56 million to Dems, still a world full of fools that don’t get it... it’s all about the money. Thunberg, Al Gore etc.

 

[AkNomad]

So for those of you in the know, what can you tell me about the Keystone pipeline, I had a liberal try and tell me and some others that and I quote " And the Keystone pipeline is a disaster, produces the worst tar sand oil, a filthy, sludgy oil that corrodes the pipeline and causes leaks and leaching into the land and water sources that are very difficult to clean. The pipeline was supposed to hold up for ten years, and there have been multiple leaks yearly."

 

[Bogger]

we told you about a new report detailing scientific findings that settle the diluted bitumen debate once and for all.
The Dilbit Corrosivity (PDF) report from UK-based Penspen Integrity states that diluted bitumen is not more corrosive than conventional crude.
This fact alone invalidates myths being spread by industry critics about the transportation of diluted bitumen. But the report doesn’t stop there – here are five more diluted bitumen facts you should know:

1. Diluted bitumen has been transported by pipeline for more than 25 years, with no discernible increase in corrosion failure incidents.
2. Diluted bitumen has similar characteristics as heavy sour crude in terms of density, TAN (total acid number) and sulphur content. Small differences in these numbers do not increase the chances of corrosion occurring in transmission pipelines.
3. The TAN number, sulphur and salt content are important parameters for refineries, but cannot be used to assess the corrosion threat to an oil transmission pipeline, and these parameters are not used by pipeline corrosion engineers.
4. Pipelines in the USA and Canada are managed using an integrity management system. Part of that system includes assessment and control of internal corrosion. The requirements to control internal corrosion of pipelines carrying diluted bitumen are exactly the same as for conventional crude oil pipelines.
5. Existing programs used by transmission pipeline operators on conventional crude oil pipelines are equally as effective on pipelines containing diluted bitumen.

While a great deal has been said about diluted bitumen, these are the scientific facts.
For even more facts, check out our Diluted Bitumen Fact Sheet (PDF).

 

[Bogger]

This is probably where your friend is getting his/her info.....

The Keystone XL Pipeline: Everything You Need To Know | NRDC

Not sure if it is factually accurate but I have a hard time crediting a source as factual when they refer to bitumen as "tar-sand"

 

[NoBrakes!]

I'm no genius but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night...

Tar sand is in the ground and dug up. Bitumen is what comes up the SAGD and other pumped wells...

 

[Rbrduk]

I'm no genius but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night...

Tar sand is in the ground and dug up. Bitumen is what comes up the SAGD and other pumped wells...

But it’s oil sands. And they are doing a massive cleanup by removing it from the ground.

 

[NoBrakes!]

oh you dont have to sell me.... I have been to the reclaimed lands... its like a desert of clean sand.

if you go down to the river... It seeps from the ground

 

[Bogger]

I'm no genius but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night...

Tar sand is in the ground and dug up. Bitumen is what comes up the SAGD and other pumped wells...

My understanding is that the "oil" removed from the oil sands leaves the area as Bitumen, whether it be pumped or extracted it still undergoes the separation process using steam and is a diluted product..... Maybe I'm wrong...

 

[Bogger]

Diluted Bitumen in PipelinesWhat is bitumen?
Bitumen is a thick, molasses-type product that is found in regions around the world, but more locally in the oil sands regions of northern Alberta, Canada. Sometimes, it’s found near the surface mixed in with sand and other debris, while in other instances, it can be found deep in the ground under several layers of rock.
How is bitumen extracted and what is diluted bitumen? There are two ways to extract bitumen. The first involves using large mining trucks and shovels to scrape the surface of the ground and collect the oil found in the sand. This is called surface mining. Once collected, the mined material is processed to remove the sand and other debris.The second method involves injecting steam deep into the ground. The steam heats up the bitumen and forms a mixture of bitumen and water, which then flows to the surface in the same way conventional oil does. This is called in-situ production. Once on the surface, the water is separated from the bitumen.

 

[NoBrakes!]

100%

synthetic crude is bitumen/upgraded heavy oil with no sand leaving the big plants up north in the pipes.

 

[Mike270412]

It's oil, not tar. Greenies use the word tar cause it sounds more dirty.

I'm no genius but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night...

Tar sand is in the ground and dug up. Bitumen is what comes up the SAGD and other pumped wells...

But it’s oil sands. And they are doing a massive cleanup by removing it from the ground.

 

[j335]

It's oil, not tar. Greenies use the word tar cause it sounds more dirty.

Tarsands is the original name, oilsands is the newer name. I agree if someone says Tarsands you can guarantee they’re getting their info from a greenie source.

Bitumen = Oilsands - Sand
Dilbit = Diluent + Bitumen

Pipelines are shipping dilbit, some rail cars ship pure bitumen, where the real money is made. Diluent is expensive and the US refiners don’t really want it, they’re after the heavy ends.

 

[Caper11]

Bitumen is tar, its what you drive on and have on your roof. The moniker tar sand was just that, it was originally used at tar and the first extraction site in fort mac was called bitumount, and it’s located north of fort mac on your way to fort hills.

Extracted bitumen, or “Hot bit” is transported in a pipeline, than there are Dilbit lines the transport the cooler product longer distances.
Than there is “synbit” which is a mix of SCO and bitumen.

Ive heard of “railbit” but Ive actually never seen a railbit car before so I dunno if bitumen is being shipped by rail yet.

 

[Bogger]

What ever happened to the idea of Cannapux, where the bitumen is transformed into solid polymer pucks for shipping as dry goods then converted back to liquid state at the processing facility. It was big news in 18/19 but seems it has not materialized.

Says the initial facility should be commencing operation this year.

 

[AkNomad]

Thanks for the info gents, that should clear that little bit of misinformation spewed by these leftist.

 

[SamStorm]

What ever happened to the idea of Cannapux, where the bitumen is transformed into solid polymer pucks for shipping as dry goods then converted back to liquid state at the processing facility. It was big news in 18/19 but seems it has not materialized.

Says the initial facility should be commencing operation this year.

Hopefully its still going ahead. CN seems to be the driver behind it along with Innotech.

https://www.cninnovation.ca

Think there was a video on Bloomberg the other day as well. Hopefully something comes of it.