Kanedog discovers a Clutching CATastrophy, again. Pics!

[0neoldfart]

It's sold, went to a S&M member about 5 minutes after I posted it.

 

[Slamnek]

What’s the story now which these blown clutches? Dog???? Where are you???

 

[HotShotHarry]

Me thinks the cat musta offed the dog. No more evidence!.....

 

[snopro]

masked thugs from Textron came in the dead of night and snatched him. He's hanging upside down by his feet on the assembly line in Thief River Falls being interrogated as we speak. I hope he doesn't mention the rest of us on this thread.

 

[Cat401]

masked thugs from Textron came in the dead of night and snatched him. He's hanging upside down by his feet on the assembly line in Thief River Falls being interrogated as we speak. I hope he doesn't mention the rest of us on this thread.

leaked pic???.....looks like they may have superman too

 

[devster]

First post on S&M. Found this thread after sending half my primary back to China and the other half to the Nasa Space Station. Seems to be the most comprehensive list of clutch destruction, thought I'd add mine to the list. 19 M8000, just picked it up as a leftover in November 2020. About 1100km when it popped last week. Dealer is saying clutches are backordered until the end of the month. Thankful my foot is still intact as the clutch did mash up the metal foot well protector.

Does anyone have any updates if Cat/Team is actively doing anything to fix this issue? As far as I know the plan is to install another grenade on warranty, whenever that happens.

 

[devster]

Couple other family members have/having some clutch fun as well. First pic 2018 XF8000, second 2019 Alpha. Alpha was replaced under warranty last year then sold. Spoke to Stoked Rentals in Revelstoke when mine popped last week and they mentioned they had two 2020 Alphas grenade last season. Another friend had the locking nuts spin loose on his driver shaft (2020 Alpha), sent them through the clutches last year.

 

[skid]

I can’t believe theirs no recall on these, sooner or late someone will lose a few toes or half a face

 

[snopro]

I can’t believe theirs no recall on these, sooner or late someone will lose a few toes or half a face

I'm shocked as well. To me this is a safety issue. Should be a safety bulletin on this from Transport Canada and vehicles parked until Cat comes up with a solution. There must be a design issue. Cat hasn't been building exploding clutches forever. Its just the past couple years?

 

[ferniesnow]

I can’t believe theirs no recall on these, sooner or late someone will lose a few toes or half a face

I'm shocked as well. To me this is a safety issue. Should be a safety bulletin on this from Transport Canada and vehicles parked until Cat comes up with a solution. There must be a design issue. Cat hasn't been building exploding clutches forever. Its just the past couple years?

I can't believe guys are still buying Cats. This is just about common knowledge and Kanedog did one hell of job. What is wrong with the management at Cat/Textron that they are still putting these clutches out on the market??

 

[Clode]

The clutches are built by Team, cat just buys them. Cat should be all over Team for a replacement

 

[snopro]

The clutches are built by Team, cat just buys them. Cat should be all over Team for a replacement

I agree. In 2017 when SkiDoo's TRA was a mess that was the first year Team built clutches for BRP because Rotax was overloaded with engine builds with all their lines. Unfortunately as the parent company you catch hell for the suppliers screw ups.

 

[Clode]

On my Team clutch with the bearing I found that the clutch couldn't fully close, the cover would contact the spider jam nut. I found this disturbing. The clutch couldn't fully shift out. That would cause distortion and binding at peak RPM full shift. I purchased the 911 cover and this issue is now gone, the cover has proper clearance so it no longer contacts the spider jam nut. So now at full shift the sheave face touch like they should, unobstructed.

 

[snopro]

On my Team clutch with the bearing I found that the clutch couldn't fully close, the cover would contact the spider jam nut. I found this disturbing. The clutch couldn't fully shift out. That would cause distortion and binding at peak RPM full shift. I purchased the 911 cover and this issue is now gone, the cover has proper clearance so it no longer contacts the spider jam nut. So now at full shift the sheave face touch like they should, unobstructed.

Simple stuff for you. Why can't TEAM figure it out is the question?

 

[ferniesnow]

Simple stuff for you. Why can't TEAM figure it out is the question?

and why doesn't Cat/Textron make them figure it out? Give us a reliable clutch or we will find someone else.

 

[acesup800]

I'm shocked as well. To me this is a safety issue. Should be a safety bulletin on this from Transport Canada and vehicles parked until Cat comes up with a solution. There must be a design issue. Cat hasn't been building exploding clutches forever. Its just the past couple years?

Ya, pretty sure I'm not gonna simply park my sled because a few clutches blow up. I'll take the risk.

 

[skid]

You shouldn’t have to park your sled, should be brought in and clutch changed out and back to riding.

 

[snopro]

Ya, pretty sure I'm not gonna simply park my sled because a few clutches blow up. I'll take the risk.

When a safety bulletin is generated a registered letter is sent to the owner telling him to park his ride till the unit is fixed. If you ride it after that then you absolve yourself of any injury legally and can't sue the manufacturer. At least thats what happened with the 2008 XP's and the broken driveshafts fiasco.

 

[SUMMIT TREE]

Its been awhile since i checked this, But from what I remember I took the cover off, removed the primary spring, then push the sheave faces right together. Now try And put the belt in there. I thought that in order to actually shift to the point where the sheave faces touch, the belt was half out of the primary? Can some one confirm this? I don’t have a Cat anymore but I’m curious. With skidoo, Joey always says when the top of the belt is 7/8” from the rim of the primary clutch Thats a 1:1 ratio. Is Cat the same? If so you would rarely if ever come anywhere near the cover hitting the spider nut. From what I remember, its only like a 1/16” from the sheave faces touching before the sheave faces touch? Again i could be wrong, its been awhile.

 

[jhurkot]

First post on S&M. Found this thread after sending half my primary back to China and the other half to the Nasa Space Station. Seems to be the most comprehensive list of clutch destruction, thought I'd add mine to the list. 19 M8000, just picked it up as a leftover in November 2020. About 1100km when it popped last week. Dealer is saying clutches are backordered until the end of the month. Thankful my foot is still intact as the clutch did mash up the metal foot well protector.

Does anyone have any updates if Cat/Team is actively doing anything to fix this issue? As far as I know the plan is to install another grenade on warranty, whenever that happens.

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Your engine is toast as well, by the way. Demand the dealer replaces the engine.