Justin Trudeau Sucks!

[plio7]

Yesterday he basically spit in the face of our NATO allies by telling them last week we would contribute more to our military then he gets home and says he’s cutting a billion dollars out of their budget. Maybe the coke stories are true?

I believe the Indian gov. more than I believe him saying its not true.....

 

[ferniesnow]

Here he is, helping his eastern voters to get himself re-elected. His Minister has a curt answer..........elect more Libtards out west????

Minister Says West Should Elect More Liberals to Influence Carbon Tax Policy Like Atlantic Canada​

Rural Economic Development Minister Gudie Hutchings says the Atlantic caucus was vocal with what they've heard from their constituents over the summer.
ie Hutchings, Minister of Rural Economic Development and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, speaks on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on March 27, 2023. (The Canadian Press/Sean Kilpatrick)

By Marnie Cathcart
10/29/2023
Updated:
10/29/2023


The federal rural economic development minister says if the provinces in Western Canada want carbon pricing cuts like those recently announced for Atlantic Canada, the Prairies should elect more Liberal MPs.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Oct. 26 announced a three-year pause, beginning Nov. 9, on the carbon tax on heating oil in all jurisdictions where the federal charge on fossil fuels is in effect.
He said the federal government will also work with the provinces and territories to help make it easier for households to switch from an oil furnace to an electric heat pump. The new measures, targeting low- to median-income households, will be piloted first in Atlantic Canada, where 30 percent of homeowners still use oil for heating.

​

The PM also said the government would raise the carbon tax rebate from 10 percent to 20 percent of the baseline amount starting in April 2024 for rural households.
Rural Economic Development Minister Gudie Hutchings, during an appearance on CTV's Question Period on Oct. 29, said the cut was made after “listening to people over the summer.”
“I can tell you Atlantic caucus was vocal with what they've heard from their constituents. And perhaps they need to elect more Liberals on the Prairies so that we can have that conversation as well,” said Ms. Hutchings.
According to Statistics Canada, the Atlantic provinces are the biggest users of heating oil, with Prince Edward Island having 40 percent of its heating fuel coming from oil. Nova Scotia came second, at 32 percent, while Newfoundland and Labrador and New Brunswick are at 18 percent and 7 percent respectively.
Ms. Hutchings's comments did not sit well with the Prairie provinces and the Conservatives.

Alberta, Sask. Premiers Speak Out​

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith called for “an end to the failed carbon tax and the burden it places on each of us and our families.”
She said “the federal government has decided that one area of Canada using one type of home heating is worthy of a carbon tax break,” while those living elsewhere using other types of heating are not. Natural gas is the primary type of heating fuel used the Prairie provinces, British Columbia, and Ontario, for example.
“After telling Canadians for years that rebates covered the costs of the carbon tax for every day consumers, the Feds now admit with this one-region-one-fuel-type-only tax break, this claim is not true,” Ms. Smith said.
“You heard them. The carbon tax isn’t about reducing emissions, it’s punishment for not voting Liberal. There are no words to describe how absurd and damaging this is to our confederation,” added Ms. Smith.
The Alberta premier also said her province has two Liberal MPs, George Chahal and Randy Boissonnault. “Both have been completely silent on this issue and now is the time for them to speak up,” saidMs. Smith. “YES or NO: Does Alberta deserve the same carbon tax break that other parts of Canada are getting?”
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe was also critical of the comments made by Ms. Hutchings, stating on X on Oct. 28, “This is the most divisive federal government Canada has ever had.”
On Oct. 26, Ms. Moe had said on X that over 90 percent of Saskatchewan households heat their homes with natural gas, where the carbon tax still fully applies.
On Oct. 28, he added: “And there it is… a Trudeau minister just admitted Saskatchewan families are being punished with the carbon tax because they don’t vote Liberal. It’s not about climate change, not about fairness, not about families, it is only about votes.”

Reaction by Tories​

Mr. Trudeau's announcement came as Mr. Poilievre began a series of “Axe the Tax” rallies to campaign against carbon tax in Atlantic Canada, where the Liberals currently hold 24 of the 32 House of Commons seats in the four provinces.
A number of Conservative MPs reacted to the comments by the minister.
“It is disgusting that this Liberal Minister is trying to blackmail Western Canadians,” said Conservative MP James Bezan
Conservative deputy leader Melissa Lantsman wrote on X on Oct. 28 that Ms. Hutchings “said the quiet part out loud.”
“Divide, distract, rinse and repeat,” said Ms. Lantsman, who added that the “failed carbon tax” should be axed for everyone.
Alberta Conservative MP Chris Warkentin also reacted to the minister's comment, saying, “The Liberals new line is to western Canadians 'Elect more Liberals so you can be protected from destructive Liberal policies,'” he said.

‘About People’​

Ms. Hutchings, in her Oct. 29 CTV appearance, defended her comments when asked whether the cut to the carbon tax for the eastern provinces was because of the Liberals' drop in polling numbers in Atlantic Canada.
“No,” she said. “This isn't about polls. This is about people.”
“We're making sure that everybody can participate, no matter what your income is. We're going to help you be cleaner and greener and more money in your pocket, which is what this is all about. It's about affordability,” added Ms. Hutchings.
When asked if the federal government was open to reducing taxes for other types of heating in other provinces, Ms. Hutchings said, “That's a discussion that we'll have down the road.”
“We're always open to conversations to help all Canadians on the affordable issue, and especially when it was reducing the carbon footprint," she said.
"After listening to people over the summer, we realized we had to make some tweaks. We know in Atlantic Canada, there are more people heating their homes with oil. So it's significant now, to do this now before people start to fill up their tanks for the winter, and show that there is a plan in place to help people move from oil heat to a heat pump source of heat," said the minister.

 

[snopro]

Here he is, helping his eastern voters to get himself re-elected. His Minister has a curt answer..........elect more Libtards out west????

Minister Says West Should Elect More Liberals to Influence Carbon Tax Policy Like Atlantic Canada​

Rural Economic Development Minister Gudie Hutchings says the Atlantic caucus was vocal with what they've heard from their constituents over the summer.
ie Hutchings, Minister of Rural Economic Development and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, speaks on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on March 27, 2023. (The Canadian Press/Sean Kilpatrick)

By Marnie Cathcart
10/29/2023
Updated:
10/29/2023


The federal rural economic development minister says if the provinces in Western Canada want carbon pricing cuts like those recently announced for Atlantic Canada, the Prairies should elect more Liberal MPs.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Oct. 26 announced a three-year pause, beginning Nov. 9, on the carbon tax on heating oil in all jurisdictions where the federal charge on fossil fuels is in effect.
He said the federal government will also work with the provinces and territories to help make it easier for households to switch from an oil furnace to an electric heat pump. The new measures, targeting low- to median-income households, will be piloted first in Atlantic Canada, where 30 percent of homeowners still use oil for heating.

​

The PM also said the government would raise the carbon tax rebate from 10 percent to 20 percent of the baseline amount starting in April 2024 for rural households.
Rural Economic Development Minister Gudie Hutchings, during an appearance on CTV's Question Period on Oct. 29, said the cut was made after “listening to people over the summer.”
“I can tell you Atlantic caucus was vocal with what they've heard from their constituents. And perhaps they need to elect more Liberals on the Prairies so that we can have that conversation as well,” said Ms. Hutchings.
According to Statistics Canada, the Atlantic provinces are the biggest users of heating oil, with Prince Edward Island having 40 percent of its heating fuel coming from oil. Nova Scotia came second, at 32 percent, while Newfoundland and Labrador and New Brunswick are at 18 percent and 7 percent respectively.
Ms. Hutchings's comments did not sit well with the Prairie provinces and the Conservatives.

Alberta, Sask. Premiers Speak Out​

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith called for “an end to the failed carbon tax and the burden it places on each of us and our families.”
She said “the federal government has decided that one area of Canada using one type of home heating is worthy of a carbon tax break,” while those living elsewhere using other types of heating are not. Natural gas is the primary type of heating fuel used the Prairie provinces, British Columbia, and Ontario, for example.
“After telling Canadians for years that rebates covered the costs of the carbon tax for every day consumers, the Feds now admit with this one-region-one-fuel-type-only tax break, this claim is not true,” Ms. Smith said.
“You heard them. The carbon tax isn’t about reducing emissions, it’s punishment for not voting Liberal. There are no words to describe how absurd and damaging this is to our confederation,” added Ms. Smith.
The Alberta premier also said her province has two Liberal MPs, George Chahal and Randy Boissonnault. “Both have been completely silent on this issue and now is the time for them to speak up,” saidMs. Smith. “YES or NO: Does Alberta deserve the same carbon tax break that other parts of Canada are getting?”
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe was also critical of the comments made by Ms. Hutchings, stating on X on Oct. 28, “This is the most divisive federal government Canada has ever had.”
On Oct. 26, Ms. Moe had said on X that over 90 percent of Saskatchewan households heat their homes with natural gas, where the carbon tax still fully applies.
On Oct. 28, he added: “And there it is… a Trudeau minister just admitted Saskatchewan families are being punished with the carbon tax because they don’t vote Liberal. It’s not about climate change, not about fairness, not about families, it is only about votes.”

Reaction by Tories​

Mr. Trudeau's announcement came as Mr. Poilievre began a series of “Axe the Tax” rallies to campaign against carbon tax in Atlantic Canada, where the Liberals currently hold 24 of the 32 House of Commons seats in the four provinces.
A number of Conservative MPs reacted to the comments by the minister.
“It is disgusting that this Liberal Minister is trying to blackmail Western Canadians,” said Conservative MP James Bezan
Conservative deputy leader Melissa Lantsman wrote on X on Oct. 28 that Ms. Hutchings “said the quiet part out loud.”
“Divide, distract, rinse and repeat,” said Ms. Lantsman, who added that the “failed carbon tax” should be axed for everyone.
Alberta Conservative MP Chris Warkentin also reacted to the minister's comment, saying, “The Liberals new line is to western Canadians 'Elect more Liberals so you can be protected from destructive Liberal policies,'” he said.

‘About People’​

Ms. Hutchings, in her Oct. 29 CTV appearance, defended her comments when asked whether the cut to the carbon tax for the eastern provinces was because of the Liberals' drop in polling numbers in Atlantic Canada.
“No,” she said. “This isn't about polls. This is about people.”
“We're making sure that everybody can participate, no matter what your income is. We're going to help you be cleaner and greener and more money in your pocket, which is what this is all about. It's about affordability,” added Ms. Hutchings.
When asked if the federal government was open to reducing taxes for other types of heating in other provinces, Ms. Hutchings said, “That's a discussion that we'll have down the road.”
“We're always open to conversations to help all Canadians on the affordable issue, and especially when it was reducing the carbon footprint," she said.
"After listening to people over the summer, we realized we had to make some tweaks. We know in Atlantic Canada, there are more people heating their homes with oil. So it's significant now, to do this now before people start to fill up their tanks for the winter, and show that there is a plan in place to help people move from oil heat to a heat pump source of heat," said the minister.

Watched the exchange on CTV Question Period yesterday morning. I thought the host took her to task pretty well. It was d finitely a partisan response.

 

[Caper11]

OIC was upheld by the federal court. Man we need a government change.


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[pano-dude]

Here he is, helping his eastern voters to get himself re-elected. His Minister has a curt answer..........elect more Libtards out west????

Minister Says West Should Elect More Liberals to Influence Carbon Tax Policy Like Atlantic Canada​

Rural Economic Development Minister Gudie Hutchings says the Atlantic caucus was vocal with what they've heard from their constituents over the summer.
ie Hutchings, Minister of Rural Economic Development and Minister responsible for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency, speaks on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on March 27, 2023. (The Canadian Press/Sean Kilpatrick)

By Marnie Cathcart
10/29/2023
Updated:
10/29/2023


The federal rural economic development minister says if the provinces in Western Canada want carbon pricing cuts like those recently announced for Atlantic Canada, the Prairies should elect more Liberal MPs.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Oct. 26 announced a three-year pause, beginning Nov. 9, on the carbon tax on heating oil in all jurisdictions where the federal charge on fossil fuels is in effect.
He said the federal government will also work with the provinces and territories to help make it easier for households to switch from an oil furnace to an electric heat pump. The new measures, targeting low- to median-income households, will be piloted first in Atlantic Canada, where 30 percent of homeowners still use oil for heating.

​

The PM also said the government would raise the carbon tax rebate from 10 percent to 20 percent of the baseline amount starting in April 2024 for rural households.
Rural Economic Development Minister Gudie Hutchings, during an appearance on CTV's Question Period on Oct. 29, said the cut was made after “listening to people over the summer.”
“I can tell you Atlantic caucus was vocal with what they've heard from their constituents. And perhaps they need to elect more Liberals on the Prairies so that we can have that conversation as well,” said Ms. Hutchings.
According to Statistics Canada, the Atlantic provinces are the biggest users of heating oil, with Prince Edward Island having 40 percent of its heating fuel coming from oil. Nova Scotia came second, at 32 percent, while Newfoundland and Labrador and New Brunswick are at 18 percent and 7 percent respectively.
Ms. Hutchings's comments did not sit well with the Prairie provinces and the Conservatives.

Alberta, Sask. Premiers Speak Out​

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith called for “an end to the failed carbon tax and the burden it places on each of us and our families.”
She said “the federal government has decided that one area of Canada using one type of home heating is worthy of a carbon tax break,” while those living elsewhere using other types of heating are not. Natural gas is the primary type of heating fuel used the Prairie provinces, British Columbia, and Ontario, for example.
“After telling Canadians for years that rebates covered the costs of the carbon tax for every day consumers, the Feds now admit with this one-region-one-fuel-type-only tax break, this claim is not true,” Ms. Smith said.
“You heard them. The carbon tax isn’t about reducing emissions, it’s punishment for not voting Liberal. There are no words to describe how absurd and damaging this is to our confederation,” added Ms. Smith.
The Alberta premier also said her province has two Liberal MPs, George Chahal and Randy Boissonnault. “Both have been completely silent on this issue and now is the time for them to speak up,” saidMs. Smith. “YES or NO: Does Alberta deserve the same carbon tax break that other parts of Canada are getting?”
Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe was also critical of the comments made by Ms. Hutchings, stating on X on Oct. 28, “This is the most divisive federal government Canada has ever had.”
On Oct. 26, Ms. Moe had said on X that over 90 percent of Saskatchewan households heat their homes with natural gas, where the carbon tax still fully applies.
On Oct. 28, he added: “And there it is… a Trudeau minister just admitted Saskatchewan families are being punished with the carbon tax because they don’t vote Liberal. It’s not about climate change, not about fairness, not about families, it is only about votes.”

Reaction by Tories​

Mr. Trudeau's announcement came as Mr. Poilievre began a series of “Axe the Tax” rallies to campaign against carbon tax in Atlantic Canada, where the Liberals currently hold 24 of the 32 House of Commons seats in the four provinces.
A number of Conservative MPs reacted to the comments by the minister.
“It is disgusting that this Liberal Minister is trying to blackmail Western Canadians,” said Conservative MP James Bezan
Conservative deputy leader Melissa Lantsman wrote on X on Oct. 28 that Ms. Hutchings “said the quiet part out loud.”
“Divide, distract, rinse and repeat,” said Ms. Lantsman, who added that the “failed carbon tax” should be axed for everyone.
Alberta Conservative MP Chris Warkentin also reacted to the minister's comment, saying, “The Liberals new line is to western Canadians 'Elect more Liberals so you can be protected from destructive Liberal policies,'” he said.

‘About People’​

Ms. Hutchings, in her Oct. 29 CTV appearance, defended her comments when asked whether the cut to the carbon tax for the eastern provinces was because of the Liberals' drop in polling numbers in Atlantic Canada.
“No,” she said. “This isn't about polls. This is about people.”
“We're making sure that everybody can participate, no matter what your income is. We're going to help you be cleaner and greener and more money in your pocket, which is what this is all about. It's about affordability,” added Ms. Hutchings.
When asked if the federal government was open to reducing taxes for other types of heating in other provinces, Ms. Hutchings said, “That's a discussion that we'll have down the road.”
“We're always open to conversations to help all Canadians on the affordable issue, and especially when it was reducing the carbon footprint," she said.
"After listening to people over the summer, we realized we had to make some tweaks. We know in Atlantic Canada, there are more people heating their homes with oil. So it's significant now, to do this now before people start to fill up their tanks for the winter, and show that there is a plan in place to help people move from oil heat to a heat pump source of heat," said the minister.

Politicians are so out of touch they keep pushing heat pumps which will not keep up below -15.
Buddy put one in his house but still has to run the propane furnace when it gets really cold.
Not to mention the issues with lack of power grid supply.

 

[snopro]

OIC was upheld by the federal court. Man we need a government change.


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Not surprised. A liberal judge. CCFR has already said they will appeal

 

[MACHINE]

I will for sure give some Mullah to the CCFR as they fight for all of us law-abiding gun owners, wake up folks support the CCFR and your property rights.

 

[snopro]

I will for sure give some Mullah to the CCFR as they fight for all of us law-abiding gun owners, wake up folks support the CCFR and your property rights.

I sent them another $250 today.

 

[4extreme]

I got to send some more too.

 

[MACHINE]

https://x.com/ccfr_ccdaf/status/1720144867962081449?s=42&t=xmZeSb15ueQJTQXOSnLSWQ

 

[MACHINE]

Video of CCFR for appeal from OIC , hopefully it works

 

[Dazzler]

Politicians are so out of touch they keep pushing heat pumps which will not keep up below -15.
Buddy put one in his house but still has to run the propane furnace when it gets really cold.
Not to mention the issues with lack of power grid supply.

A ground source heat pump designed for the home/building will supply sufficient heat, that has been my heat source for the last 24 years here in Cochrane, nothing backing it up. An air source works reasonably well in BC where temps are not a harsh as Alberta and east. But you are correct about the electricity. A gas furnace needs electricity as well but not near the demand as a heat pump.

 

[plio7]

everyones paying attention to heat pumps while the arrivecan ch!t is going on in the back ground....thats one chuckled up corrupt situation right there.

 

[sirkdev]

Same as US scandal after scandal... create a new distraction

 

[pano-dude]

everyones paying attention to heat pumps while the arrivecan ch!t is going on in the back ground....thats one chuckled up corrupt situation right there.

Or the $150 million that went to a contractor for service that was never performed that the government won't talk about.

 

[plio7]

Or the $150 million that went to a contractor for service that was never performed that the government won't talk about.

that's all part of the arrive can. and its more line $400 million they are trying to account for.

 

[turbo392]

A ground source heat pump designed for the home/building will supply sufficient heat, that has been my heat source for the last 24 years here in Cochrane, nothing backing it up. An air source works reasonably well in BC where temps are not a harsh as Alberta and east. But you are correct about the electricity. A gas furnace needs electricity as well but not near the demand as a heat pump.

That's fine for widely spread out use, but the water table and ground can be oversaturated and it becomes a long term problem not easily remedied. Its more like a battery, not an infinite source of heat or cooling.

 

[Dazzler]

That's fine for widely spread out use, but the water table and ground can be oversaturated and it becomes a long term problem not easily remedied. Its more like a battery, not an infinite source of heat or cooling.

Not if it’s designed properly to the ground mean temps/building envelope.. for the big jobs (airports, recplex, etc) there should be a TC (thermal conductivity test) done first. That will Indicate the energy you can extract (heating) or reject (cooling).. We have projects with as shallow as 200’ boreholes, Calgary airport 492’, Vancouver airport 500’ boreholes, as well as several project in Ontario as deep as 900 and 1000’ boreholes. If you don’t have the real-estate, you go down. Designed properly it is in fact an infinite source of energy, poorly designed and it will in fact saturate or freeze the surrounding area (5-6’) around the borehole.
Horizontal systems are a whole new ball game. I wouldn’t recommend unless drilling conditions are extremely poor and a good overburdened of heavy soil.

 

[turbo392]

Not if it’s designed properly to the ground mean temps/building envelope.. for the big jobs (airports, recplex, etc) there should be a TC (thermal conductivity test) done first. That will Indicate the energy you can extract (heating) or reject (cooling).. We have projects with as shallow as 200’ boreholes, Calgary airport 492’, Vancouver airport 500’ boreholes, as well as several project in Ontario as deep as 900 and 1000’ boreholes. If you don’t have the real-estate, you go down. Designed properly it is in fact an infinite source of energy, poorly designed and it will in fact saturate or freeze the surrounding area (5-6’) around the borehole.
Horizontal systems are a whole new ball game. I wouldn’t recommend unless drilling conditions are extremely poor and a good overburdened of heavy soil.

While this is true, it doesn’t apply to 99% of the population that can’t drill on their property. No space for that when we will be stacked 10 high with immigrants in the next 20 years.

 

[Dazzler]

While this is true, it doesn’t apply to 99% of the population that can’t drill on their property. No space for that when we will be stacked 10 high with immigrants in the next 20 years.

I’ve put geothermal systems in apartments down town Calgary, we drilled the borehole before they built, the borehole field is under the apartment. We also redesigned one of my LIS seismic drills, we can get it in a postage stamp yard and drill within 5’ of the building…..

But enough of that crap, let’s get back to the important ch!t… Trudeau sucks.