Israel at War

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I trust that they got that info from those sources about as much as I trust that flyer
Fair enough, so what would make you trust CNN or Fox anymore than this? Especially when they dont even scite a source??
 

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There is a very good possibility of many Palestinians being killed so Mikes numbers could be correct. The question is how many of those people are militants or Hamas supporters, wives and kids of the militants? Being Israel is targeting Hamas with precision weapons there is a very good chance the vast majority of deaths is Hamas related including kids. War is hell and no one wants innocent people killed and definitely kids but sadly all wars have innocent people die. I think if any one of us had a kid in the IDF we would want the enemy softened up to the point they lose the will to fight. It worked in Desert Storm and the Iraqi Republican Guard finally just gave up and surrendered. What gets lost in all these differing opinions is who started this war? If you poke the bull you’re gonna get the horns. These goat phackers actually believed they can defeat a modern and well organized military with Aks, knives and homemade rocket launchers. They are happy killing 2 IDF soldiers even if they lose 100 of their own. That’s an evil ideology that only responds to bombs so keep em coming I say .
 

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great go to argument but I have never said I trust or even watch CNN or fox.......but I'm sure to phuck not going to take the work of a terrorist media source...
Fair enough. was just a simple question as most people trust MSM but have no real reason why. Another question, what makes you think its a terrorist media source? (not saying it isnt).
 

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Agreed it looks that way, but what is the difference between a state owned and a privately owned monopoly media company? With the right amount of money (which govts have practically unlimited amounts) could a private owned company not be easily swayed to serve the "state"?

Just trying to lay it out for others who might not understand.
 

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Agreed it looks that way, but what is the difference between a state owned and a privately owned monopoly media company? With the right amount of money (which govts have practically unlimited amounts) could a private owned company not be easily swayed to serve the "state"?

Just trying to lay it out for others who might not understand.
there are definitely similarities but to compare a Middle East state owned, or additionally a Chinese state owned media source to "privately" owned in North America is a little far fetched..... yes around here the media will always show a bias to where the money points them but due to the freedoms that we have here and our availability to non state owned sources it's hard for the Fox News' and CNN's not to have some form real reporting no matter how faint it may be. they at least to have to answer to legal implications in many situations where as the media in dictatorships or "socialist" countries simply say exactly what they are told right or wrong with no implications......that would be the main difference. no accountability to at least minor accountability.
 

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Main Street media can tell the truth about the news. It’s when they give you their opinion where most of the time things go sideways and become very biased.
 

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Main Street media can tell the truth about the news. It’s when they give you their opinion where most of the time things go sideways and become very biased.
they can tell the truth but they will never tell the whole truth. it is all a machine. the only thing that keeps them honest these days its that its to hard to hide the truth with social media and camera's everywhere. I have very little trust in any MSM. anyone who for months can report about. If they could get away with it they would tell you what ever fits their narrative. We are lucky there are other avenues that can at least keep them partially truthful
 

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Wait till AI hits full bore. Then we won’t know what to believe
 

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Might tell more truth than msm lol. But doubtful, and the masses will believe AI just like they do msm.
 

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How do we know it hasnt already?
Its here already. Joe Biden, Tom Hanks, Julia Robert’s are already complaining about videos of them coming out that are A1. There is a program they can run to tell if it’s AI but for poor slobs like us we will not have that at our disposal so people will believe what they see and the disinformation age will only get worse.
 

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Yeah. Even Joe Rogan said theres Ads of him promoting products that he never endorsed. Its gonna get really hard to know whats what, when they can make a video of any person saying anything
 

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Its here already. Joe Biden, Tom Hanks, Julia Robert’s are already complaining about videos of them coming out that are A1. There is a program they can run to tell if it’s AI but for poor slobs like us we will not have that at our disposal so people will believe what they see and the disinformation age will only get worse.
So you agree that half of the news you are narrating about the war could be AI generated and possibly not true at all?
 
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