Pretty sure it is max 13 hours of driving with max 14 hour duty day. Then you also choose which reset cycle you are on. But at no time can you work let alone drive for 15 hours.
https://cvse.ca/national_safety_code/pdf/HOS_Service_Rules.pdf
Is Cyle legal or illegal?
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S.W.A.T.
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There are exceptions for logging trucks and owner operators.
Stompin Tom
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Nope, Loggers exemption allows for 15 hours per day, 80 hours in one week, 24 hours off to reset. max 13 hours driving and up to 15 hours on duty, ie getting loaded, unloaded, brake checks, that type of thing
https://cvse.ca/national_safety_code/pdf/HOS_Service_Card_Loggers_Oil.pdf
Having said that I am a firm believer that it is to many hours and would be very happy if we were limited to 13. 15 hours really wears on you, and its not just the odd day, its 5 days a week for about 5 months strait, November to the end of March. Then if you have any hours left, they want you to work Saturday. Things usually slow down in the summer.
The problem with the 15 hours is the mills and contractors really push to max you out whether you like it or not.
To many hours, should be changed.
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There are certainly some real idiot drivers. Just because your behind the wheel of a truck doesnt mean your a good or professional driver. In my opinion that title has to be earned and it takes time, allot of time.
That is part of the reason why I got into it with Cyle, I am just plain tired of idiots on the road. (im not saying he is an idiot, just tired of idiots in general) I have been first on the scene of a fatality, and I have lost a good friend in a truck crash. In my world there is no room for cutting corners.
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teeroy
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you are wrong, good sir. there are exemptions, as posted above. if you are registered as provincial in Alberta, you can be on duty for 15 hrs in a 24 hr period.
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the loggers of a certain faith aren't much better around these parts. almost got killed by one this winter, he was passing another loaded truck going down hill.
snopro
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Good driving there bud. Lucky that the bank never pulled you into the ditch
teeroy
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I got lucky Ken. they usually dump a pile of gravel on the far side where I had to go. the grader pulls some out of it all winter long to spread down the hill. they had used it all, leaving me enough room to get way over. if the pile was there, I'd have ditched it. rather take my chances with the ditch than a head on with a loaded.
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You are one lucky SOB with a bunch of nerves of steel thrown in!! Good job man!
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thanks, but I didn't stay completely composed...you can hear me grinding gears trying to find the right hole after the exciting part was over. I was more pissed off than scared. my wife and my dad were beside themselves...pa was ready to burn down a church...
doorfx
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Wouldn’t matter if you came up empty, looks like you saved at least two lives that day.
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Cyle what do you have to say about this?
Stompin Tom
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There is no doubt that there are lots of idiots behind the wheel. Logging is not immune to bad drivers, bad habits and to much risk taking. As the shortage of drivers gets worse, so does the quality of drivers.
One thing that has been implemented in our regions which has had some success is road marshalls. All trucks must have an identifier plater on the left hand corner of front bumper which have a large truck number and the company name above it. Plats must be reflective so they stand out at night. The road marshall is appointed by the mill who controls the road. They have the right to restrict road access to trucks as well as fines at the mill and suspensions.
If you have a close call or complaint you call the marshal, give them the plate number and detail your concern. In this case if this video was forwarded to the marshal the truck would be pulled in the next time it crossed the mill scale or the marshal would pull them over. The general public or other industrial users are welcome to call the marshals with concerns.
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DAMN! That was close. Had a few close ones but not that close...
Never hauled logs or done any mountain driving, but I did drive the 401 for seventeen years with vans, tankers, coil/sheet steel, lumber etc. [20 years ago]...don't miss it for a minute NOW. But I really did like driving rigs at the time. WAY to many cowboys on the road now. It seems we've imported every style of driving from all corners of the earth and dumped them on our highways to figure it out.
How are you/those guys paid?
Is it a flat rate or by the load kind of thing that makes some take those kinds of risks to get more out of a day?
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Did he say he had the right of way or did he say it's a run away kinda hard to make it out. Either way he should have let everyone know he was passing
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those steel coils are no joke. gotta be one of the most dangerous loads for a driver to haul. securement, securement, securement. especially on the 401...yeesh.
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he claimed runaway. it was his first day on the job, said he had 18 years experience. got lost in the snow dust, came up too fast to the top of the hill...before he realized he was at the top of the hill, he was almost into the back of the other loaded...carved it around, and there I was. burnt up his brakes on the way down, but got it slowed enough to make it thru the curves and the bailey bridge at the bottom. somehow got out of gear and when he coasted up the other side and stopped, he had no brakes. came down backwards and put the trailer into the ditch blocking the haul road for four hours until they could get a butt'n'top to come and unload him. he was terminated.
