How long till Yamaha sinks or swims in the sled market?

[thegeneral]

If I had a helicopter following me around i'd definately have a turbo'd Yammy. theres no doubt that these things are the best you can buy for straight up climbing. I can't imagine some of the views from the top when you realise, Holy Fawk! I gotta go back down!

 

[saltywalt]

With an unchanged lineup for the past 4 or 5 years I think it's foolish to beleive that Yamaha doesn't have something big coming soon

 

[Lowlife82]

With an unchanged lineup for the past 4 or 5 years I think it's foolish to beleive that Yamaha doesn't have something big coming soon

feb 19 is gonna be a interesting day for sure

 

[Got boost want snow]

They are saying that Yamaha has a big announcement, hopefully a 200-240hp factory turbo 500lb apex or nytro.

 

[jpgmtech]

Worked for Yammy from '98 to 2000, and they were way heavy then, even with the two strokes. Around that time they finally figured out that making their streetbikes lighter was the way to go (the R1) and I am just waiting for them to figure that out with a sled. They did built some pretty nasty 2-strokes too, they have the ability!

 

[saltywalt]

They are saying that Yamaha has a big announcement, hopefully a 200-240hp factory turbo 500lb apex or nytro.

I think with the Turbo Cat out for some years now it will definitly be factory boost

 

[tmo1620]

Wasn't about the rider in that case, it was the lack of power to weight, they simply just could not get over the top. These guys were definitely not newbies either. Both guys sold their nytros and have bought new pro's for this season

In the end it all comes down to the rider, I've been riding in the trees and come across stuck pros just cause there stuck doesn't mean it's the sled

 

[tmo1620]

I wouldn't ride a sled for ten years no matter how reliable it is, four seasons and its time for a new one, I don't care how much life it has left

Can you tell which is the 2008 and which is the 2013 Apex??? I sure have a hard time. Although, they definitely have the 'yamaha dependability' going for them, without a doubt, their sleds are about as exciting as watching paint dry. Not only that, 17,299 MSRP for a new Apex! Compare that to a 13 Pro's MSRP of 13,499....As people have said, the Nytro's seem like good, but a lot has to be spent before hand to get them there. I dunno, not for this guy...




The definitely cost more but when a guy who doesn't have enough money to buy a new sled ever 2 or 3 years then the little bit more in the start saves you in the end when the sled will run the same for 10 years with regular maintenance

 

[Modman]

If I had a helicopter following me around i'd definately have a turbo'd Yammy. theres no doubt that these things are the best you can buy for straight up climbing. I can't imagine some of the views from the top when you realise, Holy Fawk! I gotta go back down!

LMAO! anyone who says you only straight line and can't take a boosted yammy in the trees hasn't ridden with a guy that can.

 

[jbb]

Wasn't about the rider in that case, it was the lack of power to weight, they simply just could not get over the top. These guys were definitely not newbies either. Both guys sold their nytros and have bought new pro's for this season

if i had to ride a stk nytro. id rather stay home........ just saying

 

[jbb]

LMAO! anyone who says you only straight line and can't take a boosted yammy in the trees hasn't ridden with a guy that can.

90% of my riding is tree bashing. and we laugh at the ppl that say you cant ride a yamaha in the tree's.

 

[thegeneral]

LMAO! anyone who says you only straight line and can't take a boosted yammy in the trees hasn't ridden with a guy that can.

I'd have to agree with this statement. That being said, I haven't seen anyone do it let alone ride with someone who could.
We'll be in Revy Jan 25th - Feb 1st, maybe you'd like to come out for a rip.( staying at Peaks )

 

[CUSO]

And just imagine them on a 2stroke. They would be GODS!
I don't care what anyone says, a 2 smoke still will outperform a 4 stroke in very technical trees with the identical rider.

LMAO! anyone who says you only straight line and can't take a boosted yammy in the trees hasn't ridden with a guy that can.

 

[Barker]

90% of my riding is tree bashing. and we laugh at the ppl that say you cant ride a yamaha in the tree's.

Love the tree riding! And I ride with a guy that can take his Nitro through the trees just fine!
Also any day of sledding no matter what your riding is better then bumming around home!

 

[CUSO]

I heard about this new motor that Yama is coming out with in their bikes,

is this what all the hype is about?? I realize they had this in the 4 cylinders, but not in the 3's

 

[tmo1620]

Me too, Ive ridden a few different turbo nytros and they are pretty sweet, but a stock nytro IMO isn't even as capable as a 600 2stroke.

if i had to ride a stk nytro. id rather stay home........ just saying

 

[sirkdev]

Any way you look at it it better be good, sleds suck, quads suck, side by sides suck. Wow.. they are bottom of the heap now. Things have been changing fast and they have completely dropped the ball.

 

[jbb]

Any way you look at it it better be good, sleds suck, quads suck, side by sides suck. Wow.. they are bottom of the heap now. Things have been changing fast and they have completely dropped the ball.

Overall Top Selling Motorcycle Brands in 2011 (Includes ATV sales)

Honda - 24,024 / +4.1% Yamaha - 20,152 / -1.7% Suzuki - 13,671 / -7.3% Kawasaki - 9745 / +3.2% Harley-Davidson - 6427 / +5.8% Polaris - 4854 / +24.1% KTM - 4812 / -4.2% Triumph - 3078 / -3.8% Kymco - 2795 / +18.2% Husqvarna - 1930 / +19.6% BMW - 1705 / -11.1% Ducati - 1597 / +14.6% Hyosung - 1587 / -13% SYM - 1553 / +2.8% CF Moto - 1308 / +200.7% TGB - 1306 / +60% Piaggio - 1280 / +8.8% BRP - 1128 / +24.6% Vespa - 1042 / -3.8% Aprilia - 951 / +11% Sachs - 614 / -23.1% Husaberg - 589 / +3.9% MCI - 589 / New Brand VMoto - 321 / -21.7% Daelim - 304 / +496.1% Victory - 281 / +41.9% Moto Guzzi - 241 / +37.7% Megelli - 218 / -11.7% PGO - 103 / +151.2% Royal Enfield - 92 / -37% MV Agusta - 85 / -11.5% QJ - 81 / -44.1% Gilera 29 / -12.1% Buell - 20 / -92.9% Benelli - 16 / -82.4% Cagiva - 2 / - 87.5%

-- Top Selling Road Motorcycle Brands 2011

Honda - 7285 / +8.3% Harley-Davidson - 6427 / +5.8% Kawasaki - 5353 / +8.3% Suzuki - 4538 / -14.7% Yamaha - 4205 / +4.1% Triumph - 3078 / -3.8% BMW - 1705 / -6.3% Ducati - 1597 / +14.6% Hyosung - 1568 / -8.5% Aprilia -328 / +8.3% Sachs - 324 / -12% Kymco - 319 / -26.3% CF Moto - 310 / +179.3% Victory - 281 / +41.9% KTM - 249 / -15% Moto Guzzi - 241 / +37.7% Megelli - 218 / -11.7% Daelim - 171 / +375% Royal Enfield - 92 / -37% MV Agusta - 85 / -11.5%

-- Top Off-Road Motorcycle Brands 2011

Yamaha - 10,310 / -7.3% Honda - 10,068 / -7% Suzuki - 5646 / -1.3% KTM - 4545 / -2.5% Kawasaki - 3451 / -5.8% Husqvarna - 1890 / +20.9% Husaberg - 575 / +2.7 Aprilia - 7 / 0%

-- Top Scooter Brands 2011

Kymco - 1641 / +27.5% SYM - 1553 / +2.8% Honda - 1497 / +5.7% Piaggio - 1280 / +8.8% Vespa - 1042 / -3.8% TGB - 947 / +36.8% Yamaha - 659 / -17.7% Aprilia - 616 / +12.6% MCI - 589 / New VMoto - 318 / -20.1% Sachs - 290 / -32.6% CF Moto - 273 / -15.7% Daelim - 133 / +786.7% PGO - 103 / +151.2% Suzuki - 81 / -23.6% Gilera - 29 / -12.1% Benelli - 16 / -80.7% Hyosung - 12 / -87.2% QJ - 3 / -91.9%

-- Top ATV Brands 2011

Honda - 5174 / +21% Yamaha - 4978 / +9.6% Polaris - 4854 / +24.1% Suzuki - 3406 / -5.5% BRP - 1128 / +24.6% Kawasaki - 941 / +12.2% Kymco - 835 / +29.7% CF Moto - 725 TGB - 359 / +189.5% KTM - 18 / -74.3% Hyosung - 7 / -58.8%

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[Timber_Tramp]

Overall Top Selling Motorcycle Brands in 2011 (Includes ATV sales)

Honda - 24,024 / +4.1% Yamaha - 20,152 / -1.7% Suzuki - 13,671 / -7.3% Kawasaki - 9745 / +3.2% Harley-Davidson - 6427 / +5.8% Polaris - 4854 / +24.1% KTM - 4812 / -4.2% Triumph - 3078 / -3.8% Kymco - 2795 / +18.2% Husqvarna - 1930 / +19.6% BMW - 1705 / -11.1% Ducati - 1597 / +14.6% Hyosung - 1587 / -13% SYM - 1553 / +2.8% CF Moto - 1308 / +200.7% TGB - 1306 / +60% Piaggio - 1280 / +8.8% BRP - 1128 / +24.6% Vespa - 1042 / -3.8% Aprilia - 951 / +11% Sachs - 614 / -23.1% Husaberg - 589 / +3.9% MCI - 589 / New Brand VMoto - 321 / -21.7% Daelim - 304 / +496.1% Victory - 281 / +41.9% Moto Guzzi - 241 / +37.7% Megelli - 218 / -11.7% PGO - 103 / +151.2% Royal Enfield - 92 / -37% MV Agusta - 85 / -11.5% QJ - 81 / -44.1% Gilera 29 / -12.1% Buell - 20 / -92.9% Benelli - 16 / -82.4% Cagiva - 2 / - 87.5%

-- Top Selling Road Motorcycle Brands 2011

Honda - 7285 / +8.3% Harley-Davidson - 6427 / +5.8% Kawasaki - 5353 / +8.3% Suzuki - 4538 / -14.7% Yamaha - 4205 / +4.1% Triumph - 3078 / -3.8% BMW - 1705 / -6.3% Ducati - 1597 / +14.6% Hyosung - 1568 / -8.5% Aprilia -328 / +8.3% Sachs - 324 / -12% Kymco - 319 / -26.3% CF Moto - 310 / +179.3% Victory - 281 / +41.9% KTM - 249 / -15% Moto Guzzi - 241 / +37.7% Megelli - 218 / -11.7% Daelim - 171 / +375% Royal Enfield - 92 / -37% MV Agusta - 85 / -11.5%

-- Top Off-Road Motorcycle Brands 2011

Yamaha - 10,310 / -7.3% Honda - 10,068 / -7% Suzuki - 5646 / -1.3% KTM - 4545 / -2.5% Kawasaki - 3451 / -5.8% Husqvarna - 1890 / +20.9% Husaberg - 575 / +2.7 Aprilia - 7 / 0%

-- Top Scooter Brands 2011

Kymco - 1641 / +27.5% SYM - 1553 / +2.8% Honda - 1497 / +5.7% Piaggio - 1280 / +8.8% Vespa - 1042 / -3.8% TGB - 947 / +36.8% Yamaha - 659 / -17.7% Aprilia - 616 / +12.6% MCI - 589 / New VMoto - 318 / -20.1% Sachs - 290 / -32.6% CF Moto - 273 / -15.7% Daelim - 133 / +786.7% PGO - 103 / +151.2% Suzuki - 81 / -23.6% Gilera - 29 / -12.1% Benelli - 16 / -80.7% Hyosung - 12 / -87.2% QJ - 3 / -91.9%

-- Top ATV Brands 2011

Honda - 5174 / +21% Yamaha - 4978 / +9.6% Polaris - 4854 / +24.1% Suzuki - 3406 / -5.5% BRP - 1128 / +24.6% Kawasaki - 941 / +12.2% Kymco - 835 / +29.7% CF Moto - 725 TGB - 359 / +189.5% KTM - 18 / -74.3% Hyosung - 7 / -58.8%

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interesting....

why dont you ride a Yamaha quad?

 

[jbb]

interesting....

why dont you ride a Yamaha quad?

stfu tramp... how was the ride today?