how does one classify themselves as a experienced backcountry person

[Sledgirl]

No offense, Ferniesnow.........but your saw holder looks ruffled like a bride's garter!!!! Was that planned?

 

[ferniesnow]

No offense, Ferniesnow.........but your saw holder looks ruffled like a bride's garter!!!! Was that planned?

No it's just old like me.....

 

[CUSO]

Another reason you should keep a pencil and All Weather note pad in your emergency kit is in case you have to administer first aid to someone for an extended length of time you need to record vitals and type of first aid administered. This is not only important for the rescuers and EMT's but it can save your butt from a lawsuit from some Law Happy Susan.

Uh, well I am not sure this is accurate.

A good Samaritan act in Canada and almost everywhere else, is a legal principle that prevents a rescuer who has voluntarily helped a victim in distress from being successfully sued for 'wrongdoing'.
Its purpose is to keep people from being reluctant to help a stranger in need for fear of legal repercussions if they were to make some mistake in treatment.
You are right however, by keeping documentation, for an aid to the Medical help when they arrive, so they can administer the proper treatments.

If you are St. Johns first aid trained, you will also be covered for a million dollars.

 

[JoHNI_T]

would anyone be interested in a planned but unplanned winter campout for one night with a what you ride with nite?

lets DOO it,,, but can we bring a few extra just for training reasons,,, I am wearing my old clothes I dont want my sled stuff all stinky like fire....

 

[team dirt]

when building a fire try to put it on the side of a hill so it can pull air in though the bottm. if you do have to build on flat ground make sure to shovel out a good pit with a channell for air to feed into fire, as the night goes on the fire will sink into the snow and start to suffer for air, even with the driest wood it will just smolder and give off no heat. also one person in the group needs to take charge or nothing will get acomplished, and arguments will just slow down any attempts at survival. shelter and fire are the first things to get and dont wait to long to get these. two way radios are good to have also. in bc the bc forestry has repeaters all throgh the provinc that you could posiblly use in an emergency. there is a website i found with the frequncies and tone codes with a map of all the locations of the repeaters.

 

[raceu4it]

i'm going to have to try that in the dirt next time and was wondering if a person tunneled in a small air access hole for a fire to draw air in when burning on snow.

 

[Modman]

i'm going to have to try that in the dirt next time and was wondering if a person tunneled in a small air access hole for a fire to draw air in when burning on snow.

Yep, #1 thing that can turn a mediocre fire into a raging inferno. Air from the bottom on any fire will keep it burning like a mofo.

This same idea has to be applied to the older metal-ringed fire pits at any provincial campground. First thing before you get a fire going is to dig an "air tunnel" under one or two spots of the metal ring. Some of the newer ones installed have more air holes but the older ones, this is a must do.

Good tip team dirt! There are so many of these little things that a guy knows but just thinks everyone else does or you forget about, so you kinda forget to mention.

 

[Thunderguy BOOSTED]

I think iam an experienced backcountry person!! I have taken avalanche courses, wilderness first aid courses, guides training (for hunting and backcountry pack trips) (horse back trips) and plus look where i live!!
3 hours from Williams Lake!

 

[raceu4it]

looks like you're off the power grid also, if so, what kind of costs to set-up if you don't mind. oh yea, nice set-up. lucky guy.

 

[Thunderguy BOOSTED]

looks like you're off the power grid also, if so, what kind of costs to set-up if you don't mind. oh yea, nice set-up. lucky guy.

We are 156 kms off the grid, Our system cost $13000 for ever thing! Wind mill, solar panels, inverter, batteries, solar booster, cable etc! We also are planning to get a water wheel because we have a very nice creek flowing 15 feet away from the house which runs year around!
But for $13000 we have 24 hour power and it powers our whole place, which is our main house and 6 other buildings!! Shop is run on a generator!

It is a very nice place!
here is a link with some info and pics:

J:d

 

[Thunderguy BOOSTED]

Here is a few pics of a cabin my dad just finished!
Last one is of the before!


Enjoy!

J:d

 

[team dirt]

as I've spent my whole working life in and around the mountains/snow speicaly.
starting at fortress mtn as snowmaker/slope groomer.snowboarding and hiking the slopes that I roads showed me more than any coures Ive taken ever can.Ive shadowed ski patrol and work with blasting.fortress was great place to learn as we where in the same snow blet as ferni and and the alberts cool so snow would get sugery........for 99/00 i worked panorama and groomed the lovely ice they have there.and hiked/boraded the jumbo ranges......learning more and more as well as enjoying stuff people can't even picture.
then in 2000 I was asked to come to lake desaes and formaned snowmaking,they would gave me $6800 towards a sled.So straight to motor tech I went and bought my first sled and left the ski hill that feb moved out of field lol'and to golden I live, and bagging 5000k/yr.REALLY getting to know my terrain and able to read it.know where common slide areas are knowing how the snow came in what directions temps over the last week,wind,sun,trusting my gut and having respect for the snow. there's a lot as i really think about it .and started showing people around......turned into guiding.....all my rambling.joining this site has been fun but have noticed people writing bull threads about snow or something they really aren't there for.I know what I'm talking about and don't bullshiz about snow Its my life..and knowing at any time i can walk into the backcountry which is my backyard and be able to servive,and as for the summer everything is easer....and more of,just gotta know how to handle ones self around big wild life ch!t that will take you out!
OH yeah I forgot we moved to revy from 06-08 for power to top of new dki hill and a WHOLE diff'riding from golden and area.somethung you can learn here.revy's got a coastal type snow pack WAY more stable thoughout season,and A F^&K load deeper.....:d

here's how I see it A guy that goes to an heavy equipmenttraining coures isn't an operstor with 250 hr.Me with 9+yrs running hoe/dozer makes an operator.same goes for the forest.

what makes you the best at your job....is time,EXSPERIENCE thats the only thing that can make you a MOUNTAINMAN/WOMAN

.....:d

WHAT!! This isnt a pissing match

 

[Uturn]

One thing no one has mentioned is pink survey tape. Great for marking your path or building arrows to show your direction of travel. Light and easy to carry and highly visible in winter.

Having to perform some serious 1st aid in the mountains, my first aid pack is just short of emergency surgery. It all fits in a shaving pouch, and sits in the bottom of my pack. Also carry 400 mg Advil gel tabs, quick to numb the pain of handle bars cracking ribs, or running boards ripping open knee caps.

 

[raceu4it]

was watching a survivorman show, and he had one of those wooden fire poppers, where you put in some tissue or something of that nature in the barrel, give it a whack, and the friction causes the combustion, no need for matches. has anyone seen those in person?

 

[country_shorty88]

we've all had this talk about being the well experienced outdoor person, and now more than ever that term is being used as much as the guy with the brand new ford escape, new rockport hikers, and backpack with wine and cheese looking for some remote adventure. some examples true and false. and please add in

1 - can you read a compass
2 -watched and practised all survivor man episodes
3-would stay cool if lost, and not turn into a nut case
4-even with gps/or spot, still have bush smarts in case the first 2 fail or get lost.
add in your tips and tricks to the good ole backcountry. some true some false just to make us think

Lol it seemed for awhile that whenever a buddy would get us lost somehow family members that I hadn't seen in ages would show up traveling in the reverse trail way, point out the way they came. It was weird....and called for a drink at camp:d

 

[ballsout]

Have you done enough things wrong and not brought neccesities that are now considered more important than many of the things that you thought were important in the beginning.

IE: you realize that mickey of schnapps is a nice to have if you have room but the lighter and waterproof matches are a coming no matter what.

 

[Carbon]

WHAT!! This isnt a pissing match

figures for brooks

 

[RaspberryNytro]

LOL

On a serious note, once you spend a few extra hours on the hill, alone, at night & a LITTLE worried.........you tend to think of the proper things to carry with you on each trip. I had that experience a few years ago & luckily I had a cpl choco bars,mini flashlight,saw & water to tide me over while climbing 2800 ft back up the WRONG hill in Quartz. One thing no one mentioned in this thread................ride with the right people. I had 5 others with me that all left to go for help!!!! Not impressed was I when I reached the top of the hill to find no one around!!! Make sure not just you have the common sense in your group! Make good decisions while riding & have good comunication on where you're going & have radios with spare batteries!!!


cheers & play safe


RN

 

[raceu4it]

raspberry, that's a real good idea, make sure that you ride with a good group of riders, only thing is it's really hard to tell Bob your buddy/ upcoming newbie(name is not tagged to anyone) you can't ride with us cause your an idiot and you don't listen to the game plan. I'm sure we all have stories about that guy.:d

 

[RaspberryNytro]

hmmm good point, but at least know that within your group, that there are guys that will "be there" if something goes wrong. Same idea as having guys that will stick around in an emergency(avy) & not panic & just take off. Not saying anyone would, just gotta be sure I guess. Just from my own experience that's all!!!
you know it's hard to really know when to say enuff stuff in the backpack. I carry a few tools,essential supplies for the day & a few thiongs in case of an over-nighter, but man, that's already startin to weight quite a bit........ oh yeah, that's why I bought the turbo.:d
Good thread & posts guys & gals Just be cautious of your surroundings & hopefully you never have to use all the above mentioned items.

RN