high river flooding RCMP lawsuit

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Haha exactly. Might not be safe to hide them with the tightey whiteys, cops might look there too lol

Oh for sure, they actually did.

PVC pipe, a good greasing insert into PVC pipe, silicon cap the ends and insert 6-8 feet down into the ground and you're golden.
 

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Oh for sure, they actually did.

PVC pipe, a good greasing insert into PVC pipe, silicon cap the ends and insert 6-8 feet down into the ground and you're golden.


That would make it a real pain in the azz to get at when you need to shoot some thing. Might be better in a safe, if the cops just quit looting peoples places...lol
 

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Glad I had my best interests looked after............ don't understand why when asked they were kicking doors in laughing they wouldn't just get some lock smiths. They were all kinds of authorities here of which testosterone was flowing . You can imagine hundreds police and military with nothing to do . The town was evacuated for the most part so not sure really of any threat . You would have been pretty ballsy to try any looting . Not sure if there was much if any looting as most residents that stayed here were policing the neighbourhoods . Someone with the authority made the call to secure the firearms in a fashion that was illegal and should be accountable . They targeted specific homes so they knew where the firearms were or registered ones . There were RC's from everywhere young and old . For the most part I commend them and the older boys were awesome fuelling up generators telling people they would have stayed if they were in the position and had to protect there possessions . Some of the Rookies though not so much
 

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One lady described what her dry house looked like after the cops busted down the door, she said they walked around the house in muddy sewage covered boots destroying the carpeting, and rummaged through her jewelry and "other" things with muddy gloves etc.

Pretty similar to how the Nazis would search a house...
 
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that is why they need to be charged.
but most likely it will be swept under the carpet and the good people of High River will be left with no justice.
 
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One lady described what her dry house looked like after the cops busted down the door, she said they walked around the house in muddy sewage covered boots destroying the carpeting, and rummaged through her jewelry and "other" things with muddy gloves etc.

Pretty similar to how the Nazis would search a house...
No kidding... Point blank wrong action by the rcmp
 

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I find it odd, i have not read this whole thread as i don't have time to do so.
But i have read some and OVER and OVER i read firearms being related to as WEAPON's. Firearms are no more of a weapon then a butter knife or a garden shovel.
I'm surprised that certain knowledgeable individual's would relate to them as weapon's.....as they are NOT.
I also find it offensive as a firearm owner and member of a fish and game club, I DO NOT HAVE WEAPON"S IN MY HOUSE.
My firearms ARE NOT WEAPON'S but my tool's (equipment)to enjoy my sport of choice, just like my snowmobile, my boat or golf club's.
A weapon is a tool or object used in the attempt to harm or kill a human being or a tool used for self preservation against an aggressor . This could be anything.
A firearm, gun or bow used for hunting game animal's is NOT a weapon, no more then a hockey player's stick. But part of the equipment used for a legal legitimate sport.
The RCMP was 100% WRONG in their action's.
 

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I just wanted to also relate one other thought. I was in the early mid 80s a member of our armed forces, i can not relate the job. From what i have seen and experienced all Canadian's have a lot less to fear when it come's a foreign problem....if you understand what i mean. But a lot to fear when it come's to your right's as free citizen's with in your own country. The government in all level's uses the RCMP as it's strong arm and member's don't seem to question the action's of their order's from upper level's, that is the way they are trained and cultured.
This is a frightening thought, even within the military common sense and good judgement could supersede an order. Not to make a comparison but the SS never questioned their superior's. We as Canadian's citizen's are not as free as we think we are.
Honestly changes are desperately needed within the RCMP's culture, imo it should be dismantled as its gaining to much power over the its citizens that it is suppose to help and losing a lot of respect. Something that your suppose to earn but not entitled to because you have a uniform.
 

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I just wanted to also relate one other thought. I was in the early mid 80s a member of our armed forces, i can not relate the job. From what i have seen and experienced all Canadian's have a lot less to fear when it come's a foreign problem....if you understand what i mean. But a lot to fear when it come's to your right's as free citizen's with in your own country. The government in all level's uses the RCMP as it's strong arm and member's don't seem to question the action's of their order's from upper level's, that is the way they are trained and cultured.
This is a frightening thought, even within the military common sense and good judgement could supersede an order. Not to make a comparison but the SS never questioned their superior's. We as Canadian's citizen's are not as free as we think we are.
Honestly changes are desperately needed within the RCMP's culture, imo it should be dismantled as its gaining to much power over the its citizens that it is suppose to help and losing a lot of respect. Something that your suppose to earn but not entitled to because you have a uniform.
Interesting read I urge everyone to follow a RC or Sherrif car around your town and count the infractions that would cost you demerits or fines, I took the time on Friday and seen talking on a cell phone speeding thru school zone not stopping at any stop signs and sure not on a important mission as to were they stopped as i wont disclose it cause could come back to bite me, I find lead by example is a good start, so are they wrong in High River absolutly nail them to the cross!!!!
 

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There has to be jail time for this... period. Just think of what message this sends if there is not.
 

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Maybe the RCMP were worried as a lot of people breached the baricades more times then I can count. Maybe the folks would have been calmer if the useless premier we had actually communicated with the people. The people were left locked out of their town with no proper explanation. All they were told was that is was unsafe. Maybe if they had known that we were waist deep, over our heads in some places in fecal infested water with dead fawking animals floating around everywhere they would have understood a little bit better. We had numerous employees get very sick in this environment, as well did quite a few firemen. When you see a crap load of people storming up the road totally pissed off because they have no clue why they are not alowed in, it's a little scary. Picture the same crowd now making it home, demanded to leave as its not safe but they refuse and now they have weapons available? Hope that paints a little different picture for you. So in the end, yes I disagree of how they were taken, don't disagree that they were, maybe they would not have had to been touched if a good communication level had been kept with the folks of High River.

You can't force someone from their home. You can ask them to leave. You can assist them. You can tell them they are on their own if they refuse.

But you can NOT force someone off their own property if they are not breaking a law.

That's the biggest reason for having a firearm in the first place. It has NOTHING to do with hunting.
 

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I find it odd, i have not read this whole thread as i don't have time to do so.
But i have read some and OVER and OVER i read firearms being related to as WEAPON's. Firearms are no more of a weapon then a butter knife or a garden shovel.
I'm surprised that certain knowledgeable individual's would relate to them as weapon's.....as they are NOT.
I also find it offensive as a firearm owner and member of a fish and game club, I DO NOT HAVE WEAPON"S IN MY HOUSE.
My firearms ARE NOT WEAPON'S but my tool's (equipment)to enjoy my sport of choice, just like my snowmobile, my boat or golf club's.
A weapon is a tool or object used in the attempt to harm or kill a human being or a tool used for self preservation against an aggressor . This could be anything.
A firearm, gun or bow used for hunting game animal's is NOT a weapon, no more then a hockey player's stick. But part of the equipment used for a legal legitimate sport.
The RCMP was 100% WRONG in their action's.

Guns are Weapons.........their sole purpose is to kill. A snowmobiles purpose is not to kill, a golf clubs purpose is not to kill. A gun was designed kill. Silly compairison. You do own a weapon. You may use it for legal purposes but it is still a weapon.
 

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Guns are Weapons.........their sole purpose is to kill. A snowmobiles purpose is not to kill, a golf clubs purpose is not to kill. A gun was designed kill. Silly compairison. You do own a weapon. You may use it for legal purposes but it is still a weapon.

sole purpose to kill?? Tell that to the thousands of target shooters in canada that do not hunt.
 

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I find it odd, i have not read this whole thread as i don't have time to do so.
But i have read some and OVER and OVER i read firearms being related to as WEAPON's. Firearms are no more of a weapon then a butter knife or a garden shovel.
I'm surprised that certain knowledgeable individual's would relate to them as weapon's.....as they are NOT.
I also find it offensive as a firearm owner and member of a fish and game club, I DO NOT HAVE WEAPON"S IN MY HOUSE.
My firearms ARE NOT WEAPON'S but my tool's (equipment)to enjoy my sport of choice, just like my snowmobile, my boat or golf club's.
A weapon is a tool or object used in the attempt to harm or kill a human being or a tool used for self preservation against an aggressor . This could be anything.
A firearm, gun or bow used for hunting game animal's is NOT a weapon, no more then a hockey player's stick. But part of the equipment used for a legal legitimate sport.
The RCMP was 100% WRONG in their action's.

I agree with you totally... i can't find the article but i read one this AM in the Globe and Mail that said the RCMP are not a fault... said the public complaints commission said so... wish sun news wasn't off the air... i'd love to here their opinion!
 
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Guns are Weapons.........their sole purpose is to kill. A snowmobiles purpose is not to kill, a golf clubs purpose is not to kill. A gun was designed kill. Silly compairison. You do own a weapon. You may use it for legal purposes but it is still a weapon.
Huh??? Are u a tree hugger???



Guns cannnnnnn kill yes



Sole purpose not so much....
 
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