Groomed-Trail Riding 101

[Grizzly4323]

Just sitting here and thinking to myself. Is it possible to figure out why the nicely GROOMED Trails we ride up on, are torn up so badly when we come down. Maybe some of us need to learn how to use the throttle on our machines. Shread it up once you get to the top not on the trail!!

 

[dooryder]

heres a tip for you mogul makers out there, ease into throttle coming out of a corner, theres no need to hold it to bar right off a corner, its not a race track ppl, and keep a steady speed, dont go on and off on and off,

 

[pipeliner72]

Yes to many guy,s going too fast to get nowhere i got passed two times in 5 km,s coming out of clemina by the same guy just to come across him having a smoke he tried to pass the third time but my patience grew thin and it was game on i skwished the throtle the renegade 1000 and it was game on there was some bumping and grinding in a couple of the corners i let him pass me right at the parking lot and followed him to his trailer where we had a lengthy worked up talk about snowmobiling etequite!

 

[heikki]

Just sitting here and thinking to myself. Is it possible to figure out why the nicely GROOMED Trails we ride up on, are torn up so badly when we come down. Maybe some of us need to learn how to use the throttle on our machines. Shread it up once you get to the top not on the trail!!

Certainly...having smooth habits helps....but I think its inevitable.... as it always going to occur in braking and throttle areas....I spoke with an older trail dude and he said "everyone is running at least a 2" track now..thats why"


the biggest factor ...70 percent of riders are always on 30 percent of the trails

and you gotta keep the track spin to a minimum

 

[Modman]

In addition to the above:

If you have to turn around on the trail, don't dig a big trench when you do it.

If you have to stop in the trail, don't dig a big trench when you take off.

If someone wants to try and sidehill the uphill side of the trail, they need to learn how to ride and don't chop a big hole as they enter or leave the trail.

 

[Shitfly]

Some momentum before hitting a hill on the trail, no need to hammer down at the bottom and whoop the shat out of it for 100'

 

[Flange99]

Next time you follow someone, watch how the track dumps snow as it rolls off a bump. Once a bump appears, these long tracks will continue to dump snow on top of it as you ride over it even if the track isn't spinning. The bump will get larger whether your on the gas or not, although spinning the track speeds up the process for sure.

 

[BC Sno-Ghost]

This is an interesting article about grooming which I think everyone should take time to read.

Most people don't have a clue about the grooming process or the science of it. Flat trail.........GIVER!
In the end it really comes down to having some consideration for your fellow riders.

 

[heikki]

I found this....

The cause is an unlikely source: your sleds suspension. (Well, maybe not yours specifically, but it's not innocent in this matter, either.) A sleds suspension system distributes the shock and energy of trail irregularities with a bouncing rhythm called harmonic oscillation. At each downstroke, the track will exert extra force on the trail surface, causing the snow pack on the trail to either pack or displace at regular intervals. Once a pattern of ruts starts to establish itself, it becomes self-reinforcing due to what engineers call forced oscillation. The next sled hits the same irregularities in the trail and bounces at the same rate, causing the pattern to become more and more defined. Forced oscillation overcomes minor variations in oscillation rate that might otherwise arise due to differences in a sleds weight.


this is the same phenomenon that makes washboard gravel roads........ particularly when approaching or leaving stop signs.....

 

[heikki]

This is an interesting article about grooming which I think everyone should take time to read.

Most people don't have a clue about the grooming process or the science of it. Flat trail.........GIVER!
In the end it really comes down to having some consideration for your fellow riders.

GOOD READ !!!! THANKS


I had trouble focusing on the page though..from all those falling flakes

 

[BC Sno-Ghost]

GOOD READ !!!! THANKS


I had trouble focusing on the page though..from all those falling flakes

Oh good....it wasn't just my old eyes!

 

[heikki]

Oh good....it wasn't just my old eyes!

I'll tell you one of the best lines I ever heard was a while back I was on a steep narrow part of a well used trail..it was pretty badly hogged out.. deep moguls etc....as I pounded my way along I saw this guy sitting to the side of the trail.....so I stopped to take a rest and pulled up along side of him.....

he flipped up his visor and grinned as he politely asked me....."you wouldnt happen to have the phone number of a good dentist would you..???" :d


more stuff on grooming here......

http://www.snowmobilers.org/groomer_guide/GroomerGuidePart1.pdf

 

[ferniesnow]

If everyone learns how to ride a groomed trail what will all the groomer operators doo??

 

[Grizzly4323]

If everyone learns how to ride a groomed trail what will all the groomer operators doo??

We could have the Groomer operators hand out beers to us at the end of the day. That would be good. Those guys could sit and BS with us rather having to go groom the trail...OH YEH and the trail would still be smooth.

 

[ferniesnow]

We could have the Groomer operators hand out beers to us at the end of the day. That would be good. Those guys could sit and BS with us rather having to go groom the trail...OH YEH and the trail would still be smooth.

I guess we could take a page out of the Vancouver pubs and maybe charge in the neighbourhood of $9.00/beer and forget the trail pass.........that will be $27 bucks thank you very much.....

 

[foxrider]

its not just throtle jockies that ruin the trail. its also people who run way to agressive of lug on their quad and sled. if you buy a sled consider its ussage. if you live in the ass end of nowhere and theres no hills and no deep powder, do you really need to be running a 2" track. so what if you take it to the mountains once or twice a year. think about your main ussage. ive got a buddy with a dragon and he runs a 1" track, hes still able to go in the mountains.

 

[tjrishel]

its not just throtle jockies that ruin the trail. Its also people who run way to agressive of lug on their quad and sled. If you buy a sled consider its ussage. If you live in the ass end of nowhere and theres no hills and no deep powder, do you really need to be running a 2" track. So what if you take it to the mountains once or twice a year. Think about your main ussage. Ive got a buddy with a dragon and he runs a 1" track, hes still able to go in the mountains.

get real!

 

[dooryder]

yea fox rider we are talking about the trails TO the mountains, and id like to see a 1 inch track go where we go

 

[Grizzly4323]

yea fox rider we are talking about the trails TO the mountains, and id like to see a 1 inch track go where we go

x 2 ttt