goodbye to heavy truck manual transmissions

[sirkdev]

Manual madness: Kenworth can only sell 10% of new trucks with manual transmissions to satisfy feds' climate change concerns

It appears that in yet another climate change initiative, the federal government is forcing manual transmissions to all but disappear in new truck sales in the name of reducing emissions. In very short order, only 10 per cent of Kenworth trucks in Canada will be available with a manual transmission.

pipelineonline.ca

 

[snochuk]

Easier for the NC to tow the trailer they where in yesterday.

 

[pipes]

how F@#ked up is that.

 

[06 Dragon]

They should have to take and pass the driving test with a manual transmission only!
Maybe a 5 & 4 would be better.

 

[acesup800]

With todays autos, not sure why you would go back to a manual. We had a few hardcore manual, "tough" truckers (they were white guys if that helps) swore they would never drive an auto. I got tired of warranty claims on clutches and driveshafts, so for the next 13 trucks I leased, I went all auto and forced them to use them. I then gave them the option when the lease was up to choose either manual or auto and guess what, zero takers on the manual.

 

[fynnigan]

With today’s autos, not sure why you would go back to a manual. We had a few hardcore manual, "tough" truckers (they were white guys if that helps) swore they would never drive an auto. I got tired of warranty claims on clutches and driveshafts, so for the next 13 trucks I leased, I went all auto and forced them to use them. I then gave them the option when the lease was up to choose either manual or auto and guess what, zero takers on the manual.

Highway or off highway?

 

[sirkdev]

“As of January 1st 2025, we are limited to 10% of our order board to be Manual Transmissions. This is a challenge because some of our Product Offerings do not have the recommended Automated replacement available (T800WH/W900/C500)”

This is concerning to me..

 

[acesup800]

Highway or off highway?

Paved roads. Mostly not highway.

 

[sledneck__11]

I for one have driven a auto and was not a fan, we pull only suber b grain trailers and the abiltity to select your gear and control the power/traction is king. Autos skip gears and then lugg way down mb the new ones are better but i wouldnt want it either way

 

[Mike270412]

Getting rid of 18 speeds sure is gonna help fight climate change!

 

[Lem Lamb]

Once a person drives a Allison auto it's hard going back too stick...

I came from the day of 2 on the floor,,, what an advancement when the 8 speed showed up,,, 10's and 13's was a dream come true...

The Fuller18's was like heaven !!!

The 5 speed auto with lock-up 6th was ok,,, the 7 speed auto's with the 2 stage rock's,,, for heavy duty theres nothing like adding a 2 speed box in the middle...

Same 7/ w 2-stage and a 4 speed auxiliary move things along pretty fast...

Anyway's,,, the savings on fuel might be ( minimal ) at best...

90 or a permitted 140 ish ton ++ load will burn fuel ...

1 Liter per k packing heavy...

Auto's have there place,,, b-trains packing fuel benifit with a slacker engine program when the fuel gets sloshing around on the rolly hills and ( whoop Tee doooo'zzz .)

Dam tranny doesn't know what gear too be in flying down the back mountain roads if fluid is sloshing...

And for slowing the battle ship down,,, the good old tourqe converter and oil pressure band lock up,,, the engines go into a retard mode...

Pretty easy too lock up the back wheels on ice and wet roads...

Todays auto's are so nice too drive...

*** Do not go for a test drive in a brand new Kenworth or Peterbuilt with a auto. ***

You've been warned !!!

 

[Bezzola]

I have driven both on road and off road for the on road the auto is awesome but for off road i would take a manual any day

 

[Caper11]

I do not see how a automatic transmission in a heavy haul truck is going to reduce emissions.
Edison Motors is progressing nicely on their technology.

 

[ABMax24]

I agree, this really doesn't make any sense. Manual transmissions are more efficient at moving power from the engine to the driveshaft. Way less moving components, and no clutch packs, pumps, or torque converters with friction or slippage that cause parasitic losses in the transmission.

 

[beerwolf]

So the 10% is only left for log trucks?
There's no way you could survive coming down some of the hills in BC with an auto.

 

[fynnigan]

Kind of interesting what Edison is doing with electricity. The efficiency of that setup is impressive . More torque at the wheels ,less hp and small displacement engine .

 

[Outdoors]

Justin doesn't want that pesky shifter in the way when he's blowin truckers.

 

[arff]

All our fire trucks are automatics, for us they are fine in the city

 

[Clode]

My friend is a truck driver, and has a few trucks. He said the autos aren't the best in the mud, manuals work better there.

 

[tripster]

The article I saw about this on truck news also includes horsepower restrictions coming as well based on gvw classes.