Garage Welder Question

[Stompin Tom]

Well doesn't matter anymore. Loaded up my trailer to come get the welder. It is the higher input version. The 400-500 volt one. So unless I can wire in a 400 volt plug in my garage it is a dead deal

check a little closer, as I remember it the 350P is a 230/460 machine with auto voltage sensing and no 3 phase. I dont know of a 575 model.

Look at the back of the machine, there should be a tag with the model number on it from miller, something like 907300. Get that number and do an online search, it will tell you the input voltage.

 

[Stompin Tom]

this link should tell you what you need to know:

 

[Stompin Tom]

The Spectrum 2050 should be model number 903777 and is good for 200 to 575 volt with auto sensing, nothing to chance, no tabs.

 

[Stompin Tom]

Well my easy plug plan just went out the window. My main panel only has a 40 amp breaker supplying the garage panel. The wiring looks a little small too. Maybe 10 gauge?? I might have to put in my big breaker in the main panel and just run it out to the garage instead right to the plug.

Depending on what your actual voltage is you really dont need a 60 amp breaker to run this machine. You have to remember they call for a 60 amp breaker if your using 200 volt and plan on use the full 400 amps of power the machine puts out. You can run it off a 40 amp breaker and still get a good solid 250 amp output from the machine which is more than most people will ever use. 250 amps you can run an .045 E71T gas sheilded wire in spray mode and do single pass 1/2 inch thick metal.

 

[the_real_wild1]

I could still use the plasma. It was the miller site that I found out they had two models. So when I went into work that was the first thing I checked was the input voltage. I was kinda pissed off so I called my uncle who is a master electrician with his own company to make sure I couldn't use it in a residential setting and sure enough the 480 and up is its own beast. As for the breaker I figured I would change the breaker on the main panel to a 50 amp from the 40 and install a 50 into the garage panel. If I was to have issues then rewire to a heavier cable and breaker set up. But I will see what welder I end up with now. I know but the sheet they had a couple 251? welders there too. I will either buy one of these or maybe just go get a new 212.

 

[Stompin Tom]

I could still use the plasma. It was the miller site that I found out they had two models. So when I went into work that was the first thing I checked was the input voltage. I was kinda pissed off so I called my uncle who is a master electrician with his own company to make sure I couldn't use it in a residential setting and sure enough the 480 and up is its own beast. As for the breaker I figured I would change the breaker on the main panel to a 50 amp from the 40 and install a 50 into the garage panel. If I was to have issues then rewire to a heavier cable and breaker set up. But I will see what welder I end up with now. I know but the sheet they had a couple 251? welders there too. I will either buy one of these or maybe just go get a new 212.

Millermatic 251 is one of the best mig welders ever built, a great home machine and runs a spool gun very well. Highly recommended.

 

[the_real_wild1]

I am thinking about the 212 with a spool gun or the 252 without. Pretty close to the same price. I will see what he will do on pricing for the used 251 but might just get the new machine and be done with it. I have used the 212 and don't mind the auto set.

 

[benclaluna450r]

Get your self a miller big 40......... Haha I'm in the same boat looking for a 220 miller mig. The old buzz box isn't cutting it for the light shat

 

[OVERKILL 19]

Here mine! You have to take those 4silver screws out turn that indacator around so it shows 230v in the window!

 

[OVERKILL 19]

back of welder.

 

[OVERKILL 19]

Page 23 and 25 of the manual shows how to switch over. I looked all over the miller web site I dont see a 575 model. But that dosnt mean it does not exsist in past years. But I would guess you have a 1/3 phase machine, just need to switch tab over.

If you look in the first picture you can see the white wire connectoron the right....that connector on mine was moved from the left side to the right. You can just see the female connection under the tab on the left its just under the 242 #

 

[the_real_wild1]

I rechecked the welder this morning. On the back where yours says 230 and up this is 460 and up. I will take a pic if I remember. I am going to look at the other 350 that is here and maybe I will get lucky with it. There is also a combo machine here but I have to go digging for it and see what it is. Saw the corner of it and it didn't look good.

 

[the_real_wild1]

 

[OVERKILL 19]

You are right! Hopefully you have some other options to pic from.

 

[deaner]

I've been looking into buying the same type of thing. What are your guys thoughts on the new all in one miller just came out with that does stick mig and tig?

 

[Stompin Tom]

I've been looking into buying the same type of thing. What are your guys thoughts on the new all in one miller just came out with that does stick mig and tig?

I have never been a fan of all in ones. For my money its best to figure out which process is most important to you, get a good machine for that application, then in the future add to your equipment.

My 1st machine was a Trailblazer 301, then I added the Millermatic 251 with a 30A spool guy, then the Hypertherm 1000. Pretty much covers all my needs now, but it took about 3 years to buy everything.

 

[the_real_wild1]

plucking internet. Typed a long story about what I bought. hit replay and lost it all. phuk it. I bought a brand new 252 today instead. Too pissed off to type out all the details again.

 

[Stompin Tom]

plucking internet. Typed a long story about what I bought. hit replay and lost it all. phuk it. I bought a brand new 252 today instead. Too pissed off to type out all the details again.

great machines, you will love it.

 

[the_real_wild1]

I think I will like it a lot. Now just need to get the spool gun for it as well as another bottle. Tomorrow I have to pick up the plug and breaker for my 220 and should be good to go. Might have to make a retractable welding bench for my first project. Something that rises into the ceiling.

 

[OVERKILL 19]

Nice choice ! The only reason I didn't buy a 252 is the 350p had the pulse function. Which in hind sight prob could have saved $2000+

Very nice welder!