G5 Turbo CEL

[jcjc1]

anybody got any time on a G5 turbo yet? over on snowest there's a couple of threads of multiple people getting a check engine light saying "knock sensor out of range". in one instance, all 3 G5's in one group were displaying it. there's chatter on facebook also about people getting two codes right away which are mag and pto injector ground faults. i'd check it out but i don't do facebook.

 

[Teth-Air]

Can anyone say "new model teething pains" I bet we see some with the 9R too.

 

[jcjc1]

Can anyone say "new model teething pains" I bet we see some with the 9R too.

whatever it is, it blows but let's hope brp gets on top of it. i normally don't buy first year stuff and this has me wondering about hanging on to the current sled. don't need to be missing any time on the snow.

 

[drew562]

whatever it is, it blows but let's hope brp gets on top of it. i normally don't buy first year stuff and this has me wondering about hanging on to the current sled. don't need to be missing any time on the snow.

I have a 22 expert for sale no bites. Rumours like this get me thinking.
I’m not sure I’m gonna pick up my sled by 15 November. I have the money to buy it but I definitely do not need two turbos. Maybe I have to drop my pants on my 2022 turbo to sell it. Then the question is, is the turbo r seven grand more fun ?

 

[dragonweld28]

I have a 22 expert for sale no bites. Rumours like this get me thinking.
I’m not sure I’m gonna pick up my sled by 15 November. I have the money to buy it but I definitely do not need two turbos. Maybe I have to drop my pants on my 2022 turbo to sell it. Then the question is, is the turbo r seven grand more fun ?

A $400 20hp flash and $549 clutching and gearing will be much faster then the 2023 Turbo R. just saying........

 

[Teth-Air]

A $400 20hp flash and $549 clutching and gearing will be much faster then the 2023 Turbo R. just saying........

Too many guys are scared of this option, especially those with some warranty remaining.

 

[jcjc1]

yeah no interest in doing a flash while warranty is still good but nice to know it's a possibility once it's expired.

 

[jcjc1]

I have a 22 expert for sale no bites. Rumours like this get me thinking.
I’m not sure I’m gonna pick up my sled by 15 November. I have the money to buy it but I definitely do not need two turbos. Maybe I have to drop my pants on my 2022 turbo to sell it. Then the question is, is the turbo r seven grand more fun ?

good question. i had so much fun on my '22 turbo last year that keeping it would be just fine. don't care about losing the 500 hundo.

 

[Heavybrewster]

Probably has something to do with extra fuel and oil being added. Sounds like there is new programming for break in procedure.

 

[dragonweld28]

To many guys are scared of this option, especially those with some warranty remaining.

This new programming cannot be seen buy manufactures. "IF" something were to happen, just flash back to stock.

 

[NoBrakes!]

This new programming cannot be seen buy manufactures. "IF" something were to happen, just flash back to stock.

Can I get that in writing please lol

 

[drew562]

A $400 20hp flash and $549 clutching and gearing will be much faster then the 2023 Turbo R. just saying........

I already have Carl Kuster gears and clutching.

 

[jcjc1]

This new programming cannot be seen buy manufactures. "IF" something were to happen, just flash back to stock.

How would anyone know that with certainty other than brp’s engineers?

 

[sledneck__11]

Pretty sure any time the ecm is rewritten/flashed it keeps s log somewhere i dont think brp would let that slide, along with the 1000s of set parameters that are being monitored at all times, also on lots of claims now brp wants the ecm file sent to them to look at and they will deny u warrenty not like the old days were if u were buddies with the shop owner they could let ch!t slide but now its alot tougher now

 

[MP Kid]

Pretty sure any time the ecm is rewritten/flashed it keeps s log somewhere i dont think brp would let that slide, along with the 1000s of set parameters that are being monitored at all times, also on lots of claims now brp wants the ecm file sent to them to look at and they will deny u warranty not like the old days were if u were buddies with the shop owner they could let ch!t slide but now its alot tougher now

Pardon….? This never happened did it..??

*and queue SnoPro*

 

[niner]

How would anyone know that with certainty other than brp’s engineers?

 

[jcjc1]

"My dealer just called me back about this issue and said the sleds are good to ride and BRP is aware of the issue. BRP sent out a note to dealers about this and said hopefully there be an update next week. He told me its a programming issue to do with the knock sensor sensitivity."

above is a post from one of the guys experiencing the CEL.

 

[Caper11]

Can I get that in writing please lol

Pretty sure any time the ecm is rewritten/flashed it keeps s log somewhere i dont think brp would let that slide, along with the 1000s of set parameters that are being monitored at all times, also on lots of claims now brp wants the ecm file sent to them to look at and they will deny u warrenty not like the old days were if u were buddies with the shop owner they could let ch!t slide but now its alot tougher now

Exactly, all programming can be seen there is always a footprint left. It’s not hard to find, no different than a car or truck reflash.

For example, a G5 leaves the factory with a ECM calibration, with this update coming there are two rewrites logged with BRP, but a sled shows 4 after it was flashed back to stock after a flash was removed when a buds file is automatically sent to BRP.

Only way around a flash is aftermarket warranty.


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[maxwell]

Exactly, all programming can be seen there is always a footprint left. It’s not hard to find, no different than a car or truck reflash.

For example, a G5 leaves the factory with a ECM calibration, with this update coming there are two rewrites logged with BRP, but a sled shows 4 after it was flashed back to stock after a flash was removed when a buds file is automatically sent to BRP.

Only way around a flash is aftermarket warranty.


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or maybe a backup ECM

 

[dragonweld28]

Exactly, all programming can be seen there is always a footprint left. It’s not hard to find, no different than a car or truck reflash.

For example, a G5 leaves the factory with a ECM calibration, with this update coming there are two rewrites logged with BRP, but a sled shows 4 after it was flashed back to stock after a flash was removed when a buds file is automatically sent to BRP.

Only way around a flash is aftermarket warranty.


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We will find out. I do believe someone here has a BUDDS set up and was going to try a silber tune and then see if he can see the file. If someone is willing to try on their sled, let me know. Ill give a discount on the flash for the R&D to see if it isn't actually detectable with BUDDS