EVs: Can We Afford Them?

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EVs: Can We Afford Them?​

29 August 2023
Peter-James Gregory
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In reality they are more expensive than we might realise.
An internet search yields commentaries about the high price of EVs compared to ICE vehicles. A search of automobile websites shows EVs are more expensive than similar ICE vehicles in the same brand.
In Ontario, at the time of writing this article, an ICE Hyundai KONA Gasoline Essential FWD starts at $28,596.01 including all fees and taxes. The lowest priced EV KONA Electric Preferred starts at $48,394.42 including all fees and taxes, with $5,000 Federal Government Electric Vehicle Rebate applied. After the taxpayer funded $5,000 rebate, you are still paying $19,798.41 more for the EV.

Not the total price​

However, $19,798.41 is not the total price premium. Finance the purchase and you pay interest on the additional funds borrowed to cover the higher price of the EV. With 20% down and current interest rates from Hyundai on a 6 year / 72-month loan, you incur roughly $3,000 in interest on the extra $19,798.41, so the total price premium for the EV will be $22,798.41.
The KONA Electric is supplied with a Level 1 charger, included in the vehicle price. This requires up to 49 hours to fully charge the battery. Realistically, you will need a Level 2 Charger that requires up to 9 hours to fully charge the battery. Hyundai sells this for $1,185.37, including tax.
This Level 2 Charger requires a 60-amp breaker. With a 200-amp panel this should not be an issue. A qualified electrician will charge roughly $1,000 for a basic installation with easy access to the panel and a short distance to the location of the charger. However, if trenching or long runs of conduit and cable are required, the installation cost may double or triple. If your house has a 100-amp panel, and many houses do, you will incur a cost to upgrade the panel to 200 amps to facilitate the Level 2 Charger. This panel upgrade will cost $5,000 or more.
If you live in an older home, or in a smaller home such as a townhouse, here is the cost equation for your home charging station. $1,185.37 for a Level 2 Charger. $1,000 to install the charger. $5,000 to upgrade the panel to 200 amps. Total cost $7,185.37.
Significantly more
Add the total cost of a home charging station to the price premium for the KONA Electric and it can cost $29,983.78 extra for an entry level EV. In this scenario, the total acquisition cost of $58,579.79 on the EV KONA is roughly $30,000 more than the total acquisition cost on the ICE KONA.
The ICE KONA in this entry level comparison, the KONA Gasoline Essential, uses regular unleaded gasoline. With average driving it delivers 600 kms from a full tank of gasoline. $30,000 will buy approximately 330 full tanks of gasoline delivering over 200,000 kms of driving. At the average Canadian annual mileage, this will be 10 years of driving.
“Experts” claim the high acquisition cost of an EV is offset by savings realized over eight years of operation. I am no expert, but in this scenario, the simple numbers do not show savings.
Footnote. EV batteries do not last forever. In the Canadian climate, with its temperature extremes, 10 to 12 years is the “replacement zone” for EV batteries. In 2022, the owner of a 2018 Kia Soul EV with over 170,000 kms experienced battery failure.
They were quoted $23,000 for the replacement battery, including labour and taxes.
Can you afford an EV?

 

[Trashy]

We just had our house re-wired, due to doing a major renovation.
All 3 electrical appraisers asked if we had any intentions of going EV?
They all came in with an added estimate of 10-25,000 to upgrade our panel for 1 EV.

25 grand on top of the purchase. No thank you!!!

 

[Bnorth]

of course not. They are a virtue signaling product that only serve to shift emissions around and not reduce them.

 

[jhurkot]

We just had our house re-wired, due to doing a major renovation.
All 3 electrical appraisers asked if we had any intentions of going EV?
They all came in with an added estimate of 10-25,000 to upgrade our panel for 1 EV.

25 grand on top of the purchase. No thank you!!!

You would be fine with a 20 amp 240v plug. There is quite good fast charging infrastructure in Fort Macleod.

 

[pano-dude]

We just had our house re-wired, due to doing a major renovation.
All 3 electrical appraisers asked if we had any intentions of going EV?
They all came in with an added estimate of 10-25,000 to upgrade our panel for 1 EV.

25 grand on top of the purchase. No thank you!!!

Holy Christ are they bringing in another service to the house?

 

[Trashy]

Holy Christ are they bringing in another service to the house?

That’s the pricing I got

 

[RGM]

My wifes 2022 Kona EV was less than 40G with rebate etc and so far on maintenance we have added washer fluid and have a set of winter tires. It charges fully in about 4 hours at home and get over 400KM with that. I installed our 240V charger plug and materials were less than 200 bucks. That article is just pure BS. It is super fun to drive and if I don't need my truck I always take it.

 

[Caper11]

I would not say the article is total BS, I doubt everyone with have the costs that the article is written about, but some may.

For example my garage goes not have 240v wired to it. So going off a quote I originally got about 10 years ago to run a extra lead to my garage and install a panel. It was expensive back then. With the price of materials now, I don’t know what it would cost to add 240 to my garage at the moment.
I looked into a EV for my wife, all she does is drive back and forth to work. I looked at a bigger AWD ev, yah no thanks, ordered her a V8 suv. All services are included with the vehicle, oil changes etc. Now the question remains, how long will it be before a required meter is installed at the residence to separate home usage, and highway electric EV usage. No way the government will ignore the loss of the taxes it charges on gasoline.
The Feds have a very unrealistic plan for 2035 power grid, they are delusional.


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[AirNorth1]

In time they will serve their purpose.
Drive 15 minutes each way in your assigned zone.

 

[jhurkot]

A level 2 charger does not require a 60amp breaker. Level 2 just refers to 208v/240v. You could have a "level 2" charger on a 20amp 240v circuit which would be about 3.6kW. Level 2 is nice for winter because 120v (1.4kW) doesn't charge very well and is also inefficient.