Ethanol fuel

[M814]

Just wondering if running premium gas with ethanol will do any damage as I’m going up to chatter creek and that’s what they have for gas on site .

2014 proclimb m8000 stock

 

[Halon60]

Ethanol usually doesn’t damage anything unless it sits for a long time. If you burn it out in a day or 2 you’ll be fine. Maybe lack a bit of power.

 

[Merc63]

Ethanol is great, it adds octane value.

 

[AGGRESIVEZEBRA]

Just dont let it sit in there after the trip for the summer. It breaks down the fuel lines and the o rings quicker then non ethanol fuel.

 

[M814]

Thanks for the input guys :d

 

[tmo1620]

Had a lot of 800 HO cats, personally owned an 11, 13, and two 14's and none of them liked ethanol fuel at all, octn sensor would flash and retard the motor, at lower elevations it did it steady, higher elevations not as much but still went off , ran shell 91 v power 99% of the time but was a few instances that I had to run a tank of ethanol fuel and the suzuki always told me about it

Just wondering if running premium gas with ethanol will do any damage as I’m going up to chatter creek and that’s what they have for gas on site .

2014 proclimb m8000 stock

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Used to run Mohawk lots 87=94 I think. Read your manual and it probably mentions something to that affect

 

[tmo1620]

says no ethanol in the manual for 800 ho, 94=crap lol, also cat reeds do not like ethanol, petro winter gas, or octane boost

Used to run Mohawk lots 87=94 I think. Read your manual and it probably mentions something to that affect

 

[mountianguy]

says no ethanol in the manual for 800 ho, 94=crap lol, also cat reeds do not like ethanol, petro winter gas, or octane boost

In the 2016 manual it states the following for the 6000/8000 " Oxygenated gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol are acceptable gasolines "

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Then what takes place south of the boarder where many stations habe higher ethanol blends. Maybe someone form there can chime in

 

[tmo1620]

In the 2016 manual it states the following for the 6000/8000 " Oxygenated gasoline containing up to 10% ethanol are acceptable gasolines "

May be acceptable on the 16, maybe they did some mapping or ecu flashes to accept ethanol fuel better after 14 as ethanol is now everywhere thanks to the bleeding heart politicians but all my 800ho sleds ran like garbage on ethanol,to the point i wouldnt even drop into somewhere with a good climb out, i would pack jerry cans before i would ever run ethanol again in a sled. I bet you could trace back lots of prematurely blown motors to use of ethanol fuel

 

[mountianguy]

May be acceptable on the 16, maybe they did some mapping or ecu flashes to accept ethanol fuel better after 14 as ethanol is now everywhere thanks to the bleeding heart politicians but all my 800ho sleds ran like garbage on ethanol,to the point i wouldnt even drop into somewhere with a good climb out, i would pack jerry cans before i would ever run ethanol again in a sled. I bet you could trace back lots of prematurely blown motors to use of ethanol fuel

Personally I avoid Ethnol blended fuels if possible. I thought they updated or added the knock sensor in 16 to help with premature engine failure caused by fuels. I have never had the octn light come on but have seen it on my buddies Polaris.

 

[Merc63]

^^^. Above is all bullsh1t. Ethanol raises octane level in fuel. It burns cooler as well. It's an excellent fuel source. The only downside, it has less energy per weight, so it requires more volume than gasoline.

Tons of high HP cars are running e85 with huge success. We have 94 octane at shell and husky because ethanol is mixed with 91 octane gasoline.

 

[Tchetek]

^^^. Above is all bullsh1t. Ethanol raises octane level in fuel. It burns cooler as well. It's an excellent fuel source. The only downside, it has less energy per weight, so it requires more volume than gasoline.

Tons of high HP cars are running e85 with huge success. We have 94 octane at shell and husky because ethanol is mixed with 91 octane gasoline.

No 94 at shell, Supposable one of the few places premium doesn’t contain ethanol is at shell.

 

[tmo1620]

No 94 at shell, Supposable one of the few places premium doesn’t contain ethanol is at shell.

Unless its a flying j shell, they have ethanol in there premium

 

[tmo1620]

^^^. Above is all bullsh1t. Ethanol raises octane level in fuel. It burns cooler as well. It's an excellent fuel source. The only downside, it has less energy per weight, so it requires more volume than gasoline.

Tons of high HP cars are running e85 with huge success. We have 94 octane at shell and husky because ethanol is mixed with 91 octane gasoline.

If its such a great fuel why does it cause knock sensor issues and make the sled perform like $hit, i know that it adds octane rating but its fictitious in my opinion, takes 94 octane with ethanol to hang with 91 non ethanol and even then I’ve had knock issues all day on 94 ethanol with three different model years of cats. May work in cars etc but like comparing apples to oranges, car engines to 2 stroke snowmobile motors

 

[Eldereldo]

^^^. Above is all bullsh1t. Ethanol raises octane level in fuel. It burns cooler as well. It's an excellent fuel source. The only downside, it has less energy per weight, so it requires more volume than gasoline.

Tons of high HP cars are running e85 with huge success. We have 94 octane at shell and husky because ethanol is mixed with 91 octane gasoline.

Sure it will work fine as long as the ECU can sense and adjust for the increased fuel needed to get the correct mixture. Polaris has a switch to do this, AC always over fueled the Suzuki slightly, no idea what doo does. High performance cars have knock sensors in the plugs and the ECU can adjust pretty much everything including Valve timing to keep things in the right range.. If you have a AC and are running an after market can or pipe that has already leaned out your ratio, you could end up getting detonation running ethanol.

 

[TDR]

Shell 91 has no ethanol.

 

[mountianguy]

^^^. Above is all bullsh1t. Ethanol raises octane level in fuel. It burns cooler as well. It's an excellent fuel source. The only downside, it has less energy per weight, so it requires more volume than gasoline.

Tons of high HP cars are running e85 with huge success. We have 94 octane at shell and husky because ethanol is mixed with 91 octane gasoline.

I am speaking about snowmobiles not race cars, I am happy you are seeing success with Ethanol fuels. Personally I don't know enough about the engineering of the fuels to comment. What I do know is what works and what doesn't. I avoid Ethanol fuels for a reason that may be bullsh%t to you. But coming from the farm I know what comes out of the south end of a north bound bull. I ride mostly at elevation 6000 ft plus why do I require more octane?

 

[tex78]

I use shell 91 cause of the non ethanol


And reason why not to use ethanol, is the moisture it attracts and holds, along with the less Btu per unit