Environment Canada and Tornadoes?

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Taken at a high point but you get the jist

Did that physically touch the ground? It's looks like the start of one, but I believe it has to touch the ground before it called a tornado. Plus it only takes 100kmh winds to blow a tractor trailer over on its side if it's attached to a van trailer. 100kmh winds do alot of damage, and it's not even classed as hurricane force.
Plow winds or called les suetes winds in cape breton are a very powerful gust of wind.
If anyone is going to travel to Robb, when you get close to Lambert creek there is evidence of a plow wind that came through there a couple years ago, and probably traveled 10-20km in a straight line.


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Did that physically touch the ground? It's looks like the start of one, but I believe it has to touch the ground before it called a tornado. Plus it only takes 100kmh winds to blow a tractor trailer over on its side if it's attached to a van trailer. 100kmh winds do alot of damage, and it's not even classed as hurricane force.
Plow winds or called les suetes winds in cape breton are a very powerful gust of wind.
If anyone is going to travel to Robb, when you get close to Lambert creek there is evidence of a plow wind that came through there a couple years ago, and probably traveled 10-20km in a straight line.


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Yep! Gotta touch the ground to be a tornado. Otherwise its a funnel cloud.
 

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Did that physically touch the ground? It's looks like the start of one, but I believe it has to touch the ground before it called a tornado. Plus it only takes 100kmh winds to blow a tractor trailer over on its side if it's attached to a van trailer. 100kmh winds do alot of damage, and it's not even classed as hurricane force.
Plow winds or called les suetes winds in cape breton are a very powerful gust of wind.
If anyone is going to travel to Robb, when you get close to Lambert creek there is evidence of a plow wind that came through there a couple years ago, and probably traveled 10-20km in a straight line.


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I'm not sure. Watched it go up and down while I was I driving. I never did see. Just snapped the pic and kept drivin. Just a funnel cloud while I was near anyway.
 

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On the technicality of the tornado wording - I'm not entirely sure if this would have anything to do with it or not maybe, but I was in the pine lake tornado about 10 years ago and when it came time for the insurance to pay anything out, it would have been a big difference if the storm wasn't technically classified as a tornado we were told.

Last year was terrible for insurance companies with all the fires. And on the life insurance and investment sides of their business they're getting slottered in the markets and aren't able to make their losses up there as they have been able to in the past. A few dollars spent on lobbying to possibly save some very large payouts.... Maybe??? Hard to prove, or disprove really. Just my :twocents
 

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we went through what they called a "wind event" here in Grimshaw on June 30 2003, it twisted trees off, destroyed a few buildings, travelled right through the middle of town from one side to the other in a path less than 50 meters wide. If environment Canada issues a warning (which they did not) then it would have been a tornado, and there would have been government assistance for the damages. but because it was called a "plow wind" or "bull wind" insurance companies foot the bill if you had coverage. there was no picture or video of the twister, though many eyewitness accounts claim that's what it was.
 

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Why is it that Environment Canada is so reluctant to call the aftermath of a storm a tornado? Eye witnesses have been told otherwise and there was even video of one in Alberta this year on TV that was denied. The new favourite term of there's is wind sheer or straight line winds. What's the reasoning here?

According to this they need proof?? Kind of retarded one would think
Tornado lifts home with man in it | Canada | News | Edmonton Sun
 

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On the technicality of the tornado wording - I'm not entirely sure if this would have anything to do with it or not maybe, but I was in the pine lake tornado about 10 years ago and when it came time for the insurance to pay anything out, it would have been a big difference if the storm wasn't technically classified as a tornado we were told.

Last year was terrible for insurance companies with all the fires. And on the life insurance and investment sides of their business they're getting slottered in the markets and aren't able to make their losses up there as they have been able to in the past. A few dollars spent on lobbying to possibly save some very large payouts.... Maybe??? Hard to prove, or disprove really. Just my :twocents

Could you elaborate on this a little more if you don't mind, I'm curious.
If I'm not mistaken my policy on my auto and house has insurance for supposed "acts of god" so to speak, hail, floods,, wind damage etc. if you know something I don't, please share.


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Could you elaborate on this a little more if you don't mind, I'm curious.
If I'm not mistaken my policy on my auto and house has insurance for supposed "acts of god" so to speak, hail, floods,, wind damage etc. if you know something I don't, please share.


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If I remember correctly it had to do with how they define an 'act of god'. Something like a one in a hundred year 'storm' can be planned and designed for, but a tornado can't. At the time they basically said if its declared a tornado, their investigation stops, as far as the cause goes anyway, and they pay out for whatever is covered. If it's not a tornado, they said we would still get paid eventually, but it could take a while. They would have to go after each party involved.

For example in our case we had other boats that slammed in to our trailer, as well as the campground's trees that damaged the trailer (among other things). Our insurance company would first have to settle the claims between themselves and the owners of the boat and also the campground and any others. Then after all that we could get paid. But since it was a tornado all the insurance companies have to work together sort of to cover their own clients damages.

This was over 10 years ago now so I'm not sure if it has changed or not.
 

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Tornado activity in Southern Saskatchewan this year has been so steady that US storm chaser Reed Timmer has rented a house here for the summer.
 
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