DRW vs SRW

[Bnorth]

Dually will stay planted. Can’t beat them towing.

They suck in deep snow or mud because the dials hang up. Tire selection is tougher and two more to buy. Parking sucks.

If I towed all the time I’d still have one. But I put on equal miles empty now. So the single is a trade off.

All of this. They handle so well and so stable empty or loaded compared to a single wheel they feel like a sports car in corners. They suck in deep snow or mud though for sure. Be ready to use 4x4 a lot during early and late sled season and times you will not have the confidence to go through deep stuff. You need to religiously rotate tires as well.

 

[drew562]

Not too bad loaded. You notice when you hit that slushy pile on the road with the dials though.

I travel the parkway 15-30 times a winter revy bound and now matter the roads I'm making time. 120-135 with the dually and sleds on the deck.

 

[DRD]

How bad in the snow are we talking?

IMO they suck in the snow unless loaded, I have studded Haks and even then I've got stuck in the driveway and had to shift into 4x4. Heavy azz diesel in the front doesn't like to move in the snow.

 

[pistoncontracting]

Every truck sucks in mud or snow if you don't have proper tires, and a dually is no different.

I would err on the side of caution, and run a little more aggressive then you think you may need- just for those times when you are in one of those ****ty spots.

Currently, I have Procomp xtreme AT's on mine, 35 x 12.5. They are ok, but nothing like my studded toyo mt's were.

As mentioned, you can't beat them with decked sleds, or towing a trailer in a cross wind, especially with dual 12.5 tires. Super stable.

Someone mentioned a 450, and I'd re think that. That will severly limit your good tire selection, as they are 19.5" rims.

 

[Cyle]

Unless what you're towing/hauling actually justifies it, it's not worth getting a DRW. I regularly tow between 21k up to 26k on a gooseneck with my SRW, pulled same trailer with 5500 dually for a summer, the difference is very minimal and a 5500 is a lot more truck then a 3500 regardless if srw/drw. In snow/mud the dually was a bit nicer as the trailer was a dually so same tracks. 2 sleds on the deck needing a dually? That's like what 2500lbs if you're being very generous? A SRW will handle that perfectly fine, that's not even close to a load for a 3500 srw. I've had over 5000lbs on my srw and it's perfectly fine.

Personally, I wouldn't take the opinion of someone who says they are pulling trailers at 130-140 because to be blunt, they are fawking idiots pulling a trailer at that speed. But that's just me.

 

[cdnredneck_t3]

Personally, I wouldn't take the opinion of someone who says they are pulling trailers at 130-140 because to be blunt, they are fawking idiots pulling a trailer at that speed. But that's just me.

Pull a set of Super B's or a quad wagon on a secondary road in Saskatchewan for a while. A DRW with an enclosed trailer behind it is a piece of cake. Only worry is the wheel bearings on the trailer.

 

[ducati]

I daily drive my dually and put on around 50-60k per year, I love the dually. No real drawbacks as I would drive a long box either way so just the extra width doesn’t make a difference, if I can’t get the dually in I likely wouldn’t squeeze a single wheel in. Works good in winter, just need to run the right rubber. I did upgrade to a 255/80/17 now and the truck looks much nicer for it, still space between the duals and the tires are quite a bit taller.

When I look at pricing the savings to go to a SRW is not worth not getting the dually.

 

[Cyle]

Pull a set of Super B's or a quad wagon on a secondary road in Saskatchewan for a while. A DRW with an enclosed trailer behind it is a piece of cake. Only worry is the wheel bearings on the trailer.

I also pull heavy trailers, and I can assure you, I sure as hell don't pull them fast either. There is a lot more to worry about then a wheel bearing. Again just me, but when i'm weighting 100,000lb+ i'm not going over 100.

 

[cdnredneck_t3]

I also pull heavy trailers, and I can assure you, I sure as hell don't pull them fast either. There is a lot more to worry about then a wheel bearing. Again just me, but when i'm weighting 100,000lb+ i'm not going over 100.

It's not the weight, it's the wiggle and soft shoulders that make the but pucker.

 

[pistoncontracting]

That's like what 2500lbs if you're being very generous? A SRW will handle that perfectly fine, that's not even close to a load for a 3500 srw. I've had over 5000lbs on my srw and it's perfectly fine.
Personally, I wouldn't take the opinion of someone who says they are pulling trailers at 130-140 because to be blunt, they are fawking idiots pulling a trailer at that speed. But that's just me.

5000 lbs in the box?? That's quite a bit isn't it?? Ford says the max load in the box for a SRW is around 3700 lbs.

I also pull heavy trailers, and I can assure you, I sure as hell don't pull them fast either. There is a lot more to worry about then a wheel bearing. Again just me, but when i'm weighting 100,000lb+ i'm not going over 100.

100,000 lbs is just over a legal tridem load. I guess your part of the crowd that's clogging up the highways??

 

[skegpro]

Every truck sucks in mud or snow if you don't have proper tires, and a dually is no different.

I would err on the side of caution, and run a little more aggressive then you think you may need- just for those times when you are in one of those ****ty spots.

Currently, I have Procomp xtreme AT's on mine, 35 x 12.5. They are ok, but nothing like my studded toyo mt's were.

As mentioned, you can't beat them with decked sleds, or towing a trailer in a cross wind, especially with dual 12.5 tires. Super stable.

Someone mentioned a 450, and I'd re think that. That will severly limit your good tire selection, as they are 19.5" rims.

I was actually looking forward to running the Xds2.

 

[Clode]

I have a 992 Arctic Fox camper and its heavy. It makes me cringe when I see them on 2500/3500 single wheels. I had no idea of the weight until I owned one, loaded it fully and drove over the scales to find I only had 200kg left on the back axle. I can't imagine how much a SRW truck moves with one of these on them because it is very noticeable on my DRW. It must feel like putting 2 sleds on a Tacoma.

 

[skegpro]

I have a 992 Arctic Fox camper and its heavy. It makes me cringe when I see them on 2500/3500 single wheels. I had no idea of the weight until I owned one, loaded it fully and drove over the scales to find I only had 200kg left on the back axle. I can't imagine how much a SRW truck moves with one of these on them because it is very noticeable on my DRW. It must feel like putting 2 sleds on a Tacoma.

I was surprised how close I was with my alluminum sled trailer.

2015 Ford F350 diesel crew cab 4x4

22" alcom aluminum car hauler

Stopped at the scales on the way home.

Drove 1000km in a blizzard.

Truck and trailers was loaded up with ice+snow as per usual.

Sled deck in the box.

1/4 tank of diesel.

2 sleds in the trailer.

Sleds outta fuel, all Jerry cans empty.

Truck = 10,008 lb

Front axle = 4850 lb

Rear axle = 5533 lb

Trailer = 5423 lb

Front axle = 2711 lb

Rear axle = 2469 lb

GCVW = 15,431 lb

 

[jpmez69]

DRW all the way. Sled deck or 5th wheel, way more stable. With a good set of tires there good to go in most conditions.

 

[pistoncontracting]

I was actually looking forward to running the Xds2.

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The 5500 Rams at work come equipped with those. Perhaps I had higher hopes then I should have but I was very disappointed in there performance.

 

[skegpro]

The 5500 Rams at work come equipped with those. Perhaps I had higher hopes then I should have but I was very disappointed in there performance.

What's your favorite 19.5" tire?

 

[acesup800]

I was surprised how close I was with my alluminum sled trailer.

2015 Ford F350 diesel crew cab 4x4

22" alcom aluminum car hauler

Stopped at the scales on the way home.

Drove 1000km in a blizzard.

Truck and trailers was loaded up with ice+snow as per usual.

Sled deck in the box.

1/4 tank of diesel.

2 sleds in the trailer.

Sleds outta fuel, all Jerry cans empty.

Truck = 10,008 lb

Front axle = 4850 lb

Rear axle = 5533 lb

Trailer = 5423 lb

Front axle = 2711 lb

Rear axle = 2469 lb

GCVW = 15,431 lb



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Not sure how you think you were close. You had 1100lbs left on the truck and somewhere around 9000lbs left of trailer weight you could have pulled. Not this particular trailer, but a properly rated one.

 

[skegpro]

Not sure how you think you were close. You had 1100lbs left on the truck and somewhere around 9000lbs left of trailer weight you could have pulled. Not this particular trailer, but a properly rated one.

1100lbs isn't much left when you add fuel and 3 more 250lb guys.

All I am getting at isn't as much truck as one would think.

 

[catman1]

I’ve had great luck running duallys!!! On my second one now. When I bought my 15 duramax , it was the same price as a 3500 single wheel, no price difference what so ever.

Stock tires where garbage , been running the bfg ko2 a.t tires , they have been great. It’s scary where you can go with a good set of tires . I’ve never really had traction issues when driving Logging trails or driving up the Sled trail in early season more issues with length and height of the truck . Can get bottom out /get hung up fairly easy.

Some of my friends are selling there single wheels and are upgrading to duallys. It’s the way to go if you tow

 

[firstdoo]

I have a SRW. My 5er, fully loaded, leaves me 700lbs under the GCVWR and a DRW would give me another 5000lbs according to GM's towing charts. Although my towing rating is 900 lbs less than marketed after I weight the truck. The SRW pulls nice, handles cross winds well, and its easy to run around town. BUT if I was to do it again, I'd get a DRW instead of the SRW 6'6" box. I don't use a slider hitch and I'm always worried that I'm going to hit the corner of the cab with the 5er as we take it off the paved highway almost everywhere we go.

If its not your daily drive then go with the DRW. You won't regret it.