Dont plan any trips to Haida Gwaii/Queen Charlotte Islands any time soon

[FatGuy]

lol when I worked in port hardy all a saw was cruise ships all day non stop going by, sometimes 5 in a row.

 

[fynnigan]

We were heading for Sandspit.
Fishing a long Campbell River and Powell River and many other areas a long the island and mainland has been devested and getting worst in the last 20yrs. A lot of these areas went from a rich underwater echo system like kelp forest that sustain life to barren deserts of nothing more the rocks and mud.
Fishermen get the blame for a lot of it but fallow the money. Its commercialism that is destroying it. Between commercial fishing with their drag nets raping everything in its path and increased commercial freighter and cruise traffic causing underwater shet storms not much survives anymore. We are having to go much further north and that is getting a hit from commercial fishers with the nets.

So after reading this you will most likely know my view towards increased oil sent to the coast, it doesn't belong there. There are other appropriate ports for that to go too. Vancouver and the inside passage is not it.

Some of what your saying is at best partially true. I spent more than a few years working as a deckhand and have family that still fishes commercially. The big commercial draggers work up in Dixon entrance or west of the chars. Not in the gulf or inside passage .Seine and gill nets don’t drag on the bottom . When I was still working out there the most dangerous and troublesome boats are the tugboats pulling log booms . Which is a product of bc... oil and fuel tankers have also their fair share of problems but more related to spillage than traffic effects. Fun fact , sports fisherman generate more money at the coast but take a lot more fish ,mostly salmon . I agree that tankers should not be in some places but moving them out of the gulf and moving them to Hecate strait is poor thinking

 

[pano-dude]

Day to day turbulence to what? What exactly is getting disturbed. Waves on the shoreline? Engine noise from for the orcas? Tripling ferry traffic is ok, but adding tankers is not? Do tell.

I'm not a boat guy, that's what I understood from Lunds post.

 

[skid]

Some of what your saying is at best partially true. I spent more than a few years working as a deckhand and have family that still fishes commercially. The big commercial draggers work up in Dixon entrance or west of the chars. Not in the gulf or inside passage .Seine and gill nets don’t drag on the bottom . When I was still working out there the most dangerous and troublesome boats are the tugboats pulling log booms . Which is a product of bc... oil and fuel tankers have also their fair share of problems but more related to spillage than traffic effects. Fun fact , sports fisherman generate more money at the coast but take a lot more fish ,mostly salmon . I agree that tankers should not be in some places but moving them out of the gulf and moving them to Hecate strait is poor thinking

I have to disagree that sports fisherman take more salmon with a hook and line then a boat that chucks a net out then cleans up, and the reason I know this is because Ive also got family in the commercial fishing biz. Sport fisheries doesn’t even come close. Oh and not to mention the limits that apply.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Sport fishermen don't take a fraction of what the commercial guys do, not even close. Poi8in case, look at how man shelves of canned fish are in every store across the country. There is no way rod and reel guys could come close to those numbers. Yes of course much of it is probably farmed salmon however much of it isn't. And yes the rod and reel guys generate more revenue for a community then the commercial guys.

 

[d8grandpa]

Sport fishing is allocated about 8% of the salmon quota on the coast. This can very a few points each year. A far cry from taking the most fish.

 

[Lund]

That is also discounting the fact that a large portion of fish caught in nets that are not in season or legal and tossed over die from being handled, kicked off the deck and generally miss treated. Its amazing what people do for the mighty $$ when they believe no one is watching.

45 years on the coastal waters, i've seen a lot of abuse. Kinda similar to the logger dumping his oil in the bush on an oil change, seen it..Reported it.
And the family setup for a week with their RV canning the fish they caught at camp..Reported

 

[KatMan]

hey lets get back to the op's concern with the red plates.

found the work around round. see.you in sandpit in july!