Do they ever listen??

[dodgeguy]

Well said but................don't you think you should have had Cyle approve this post before posting it? Just saying..... :d

hahaha, Nice!:d

 

[drew562]

The powerjoke that is leading the diesels in almost every category?

The gas engines are pretty terrible to cranking out 411 horse and similar torque.

Ford must make a terrible truck since they have been the best selling truck for how many years? 45? But like they say "Built Ford tough, without your tax dollars"

lol nice your right there. They dont just out sell the out sell dodge and chev combined. i got bored and bought a dodge. i know it was dumb i sold that rattle/squeek trap with in a yr

 

[sledhead_2002]

Hah, love reading through threads like this! And yep I like my Dodge pickups, have had a few, and ALL were extremely reliable over worked trucks. Currently drive a chevy cuz I got it cheap and it's been a good truck so far. The brand loyalty debate has raged for years, and will rage on for decades to come. My dad can remember when Chevrolet's out sold Ford/Mercury AND Dodge/Fargo COMBINED!! He is a GMC Detroit diesel lover (ya know 6.2L N/A and turbo/6.5L N/A and Turbo) but currently pulls his fifth wheel with a 1ton Dodge, cuz as he put it "...it's the cummins I bought".

All modern trucks are garbage, gas...diesel!! No matter the brand. With the ever stringent emissions that both gas AND diesel have to continue to meet, the manufacturers, no matter who, have to spend a lot of money here to save a whole bunch there! I work on vehicles everyday. Talk to owners and drivers and very very few have anything really nice to say other than the odd "....it's been an alright truck, but I have had to take it in for this and for that, blah blahblah...". And yeah the initial 6 months of the 6.7L cummins had issues, they did stall or didn't start stalling always happened seconds after start up never when they were driving, it was fixed with a re-flash. The 6.7L is basically a punched out 5.9L, lots of 5.9L parts will fit a 6.7L and vice versa! Cummins still has the BEST track record of the big diesel manufactures. Take it as you will.....

As far as government bailouts, I know for a fact that both GM and Chrysler were stupid!! They were not money wise and didn't cut back until it was too late! Chrysler took government loans and as everyone knows DaimlerChrysler was once again almost non-existant when they filed for bankruptcy, until Fiat bought the 20% Daimler benz owned! And from what I have read is that Fiat has proposed buying another 10% stake in the new Chrysler LLC. Chrysler LLC is actually doing quite well now thanks to good financial management, and increased product quality. GM also took government loans and is apparently doing better also. As far as I read Ford did not take government loans, Ford was taken over by the family again (at the management level) and the young William Clay Ford Jr. and scaled back money spending big time to get their financial house in order. They had this happen JUST in the nick of time. However to secure their finances Ford did go for Loan Securities (this was not actually taking money from the government, but a just "incase we need it" deal) to be sure they could cover their warranty costs on the vehicles sold! And yeah it seems Ford FINALLY has engines that are competitive, leaving GM behind and finally able to keep up with the mighty HEMI!! LOL

As far as going to any dealership for any maintenance for any vehicle, NEVER! Remember that the dealership makes money on repairs, NOT maintenance! Therefore when you enter the service department and say you want this replaced and that serviced, 80% of the time it doesn't happen! I have caught a number of dealers in Edmonton and Red Deer that have not performed serviced paid for.

Go ahead tear apart everything I have said....:d I love a good debate!!

U sir are correct

 

[sledhead_2002]

All these new trucks with those exhaust/emissions filters are a joke, I would never buy one, those 6.7 cummins are the worse engines cummins ever made, their even worse then fords 6.7, if you go to RBauctions you'll see the pickups going for a pretty high price... Why? Because people are buying those trucks and putting new engines in them. People I have talked to that have those brand new trucks hate them, you'll be driving along and all the sudden they stall. And could you imagine if you were going up a hill with a trailer when it stalls..... Now that would just suck...

U sir are so high u can hunt ducks with a rake.

I have a 08 F250 and 11 F250 ford and have yet to have ANY stalls.

Reason RB is having luck selling used trucks with a high price. there is little truck inventory in Western Canada. simple law of supply and demand

 

[teeroy]

lol nice your right there. They dont just out sell the out sell dodge and chev combined.

no, they don't.

 

[Bogger]

Maybe you missed the LOOOOONNNNGGGG Box part.......do i look like a friggin farmer?

As a matter of fact....

 

[TylerG]

As a matter of fact....

What he said....