Dealership question

[pfi572]

The big dealerships are usually second or third generation I find .” Any business for that matter.”
First generation produced good service and worked to collect a good client base as usually smaller and building the business.
After that the next generations have taken over and really have no idea what it’s like to struggle and be worried about failing and losing everything as have good financial backing .
We will be back too camels eventually. Lol
Some of you will have heard this saying .

“My father was on a camel, I'm in a Mercedes, my son is on a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to be from Land Rover, but my great grandson will be back on a camel," he purportedly said.

According the post, the interviewer followed up asking him to clarify the statement, to which Sheikh Mohammed replied: "Tough times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create tough times. Many won't understand but you have to raise warriors, not parasites.”

 

[2kDoo]

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The big dealerships are usually second or third generation I find .” Any business for that matter.”
First generation produced good service and worked to collect a good client base as usually smaller and building the business.
After that the next generations have taken over and really have no idea what it’s like to struggle and be worried about failing and losing everything as have good financial backing .
We will be back too camels eventually. Lol
Some of you will have heard this saying .

“My father was on a camel, I'm in a Mercedes, my son is on a Land Rover, and my grandson is going to be from Land Rover, but my great grandson will be back on a camel," he purportedly said.

According the post, the interviewer followed up asking him to clarify the statement, to which Sheikh Mohammed replied: "Tough times create strong men, strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men, weak men create tough times. Many won't understand but you have to raise warriors, not parasites.”

That saying is in many cultures.
Couple friends who went to U of A said they learnt that in some of their classes they took.
1st gen makes something
2nd build its up
3rd gen loses it all

 

[tmo1620]

We are definitely in a 3rd gen world, litter boxes in schools and tranny fags running running nuclear programs is all the proof we need


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[RGM]

Does the government own the big dealerships? No? Then its not comumnism. Pretty sure comunists proles don't get to have G5s lmfao..

Communists do try to control the price i can charge for stuff though....


Lot of people dont like big bad Turple bros. (For example) Glenn Turple has a family, he started small and now they are big.

Just cause his family happens to be more successful then some other familys isnt a valid reason not to shop there imo.

Thats why people get into buisness, to become successful, so they can have a good life and buy expensive chit for their family. Its the American dream ffs...


"Big dealership" is giving you a 1000$ insentive to shop with "ma and pa"
So go vote with your dollar..

If they can get away with charging 1000 bucks more good on them, that is called capitalism. Seems like a lot of closet commies on this thread.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Anyone paying more than msrp is a fool in my opinion.

 

[sledneck__11]

Whenever i purchase something check local then phone around if local is close thrn buy local if far out give local a chance to match or get close to other prices if they can awesome if they cant then least they were given a chance for the sale. I have bought lots local and also driven 12-15 hours for stuff at the end of the day if your happy with the price and the dealer thats all that matters but most people dont do there homework on purchases then find out later they got bent over on the deal it sucks but thats just the way she goes.

 

[lilduke]

If they can get away with charging 1000 bucks more good on them, that is called capitalism. Seems like a lot of closet commies on this thread.

Maybe the next generation of Trudeaus will be on camels, but i bet these guys will probably vote them in

 

[lilduke]

It’s not the charging more or trying to get as much money out of a sale, if you can . Issue I have is them justifying it by saying it’s because we’re a bigger dealer and we’re better and they charge more to everyone because of it.


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I dont think thats what they said.
Ur just making Chit up now



All good though. Go shop at ma and pa and leave big dealer to rot then. Lol


Merry Christmas

 

[tmo1620]

I dont think thats what they said.
Ur just making Chit up now



All good though. Go shop at ma and pa and leave big dealer to rot then. Lol


Merry Christmas

Inferred more than said if you can read between the lines. More overhead should equal more employees, better service and knowledge base because of more employees, a better shop… ie: better tools, facility and capacity to put through units, a free social media like attractor picture upon pickup… for the queers that need that re-assurance they are cool. A larger collection of in stock parts and gear for all your riding needs. The list can go on as to normal reasons they have high overhead. I’ve been around dealerships my whole life, have had many family friends that owned dealerships and have a father who has probably owned more brand new sleds and atv’s in a year than most people have ever owned in a lifetime….. he’s got an impulse buying problem lol. If the dealer has a high overhead and doesn’t have a better facility and team running things then they are putting their inability to run a business properly squarely on the customers. And I will keep buying from the small guys that give good pricing until everyone’s favourite socialists close backcountry riding for good. At that point who cares anymore.

Merry Christmas


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[tmo1620]

If they can get away with charging 1000 bucks more good on them, that is called capitalism. Seems like a lot of closet commies on this thread.

Coming from a Vancouver area resident……. Aren’t you run by the Trudeau commie kickstand out there…… Also there is a massive economic division where you reside, as in quite wealthy to quite poor with next to nothing in between…… Isn’t that communism at its core?


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[lilduke]

Inferred more than said if you can read between the lines. More overhead should equal more employees, better service and knowledge base because of more employees, a better shop… ie: better tools, facility and capacity to put through units, a free social media like attractor picture upon pickup… for the queers that need that re-assurance they are cool. A larger collection of in stock parts and gear for all your riding needs. The list can go on as to normal reasons they have high overhead. I’ve been around dealerships my whole life, have had many family friends that owned dealerships and have a father who has probably owned more brand new sleds and atv’s in a year than most people have ever owned in a lifetime….. he’s got an impulse buying problem lol. If the dealer has a high overhead and doesn’t have a better facility and team running things then they are putting their inability to run a business properly squarely on the customers. And I will keep buying from the small guys that give good pricing until everyone’s favourite socialists close backcountry riding for good. At that point who cares anymore.

Merry Christmas


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We are going circles here.


1 the sales man made the claim not the owner.


2 buisness's can charge what ever they want in a free market.


3 you are allowed to shop where ever you want in a free market.


Honestly i dont think a powersports dealership is the best buisness for ma in pa to be in these days. Id like a Ferrari dealership, but there is a large barrier to entry and there is eaiser ways to make money..



Again merry christmas.

 

[maxwell]

Whenever i purchase something check local then phone around if local is close thrn buy local if far out give local a chance to match or get close to other prices if they can awesome if they cant then least they were given a chance for the sale. I have bought lots local and also driven 12-15 hours for stuff at the end of the day if your happy with the price and the dealer thats all that matters but most people dont do there homework on purchases then find out later they got bent over on the deal it sucks but thats just the way she goes.

15 hour drive I think we’re talking about more then a 1000$ price difference right ?


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[Merc63]

We are going circles here.


1 the sales man made the claim not the owner.


2 buisness's can charge what ever they want in a free market.


3 you are allowed to shop where ever you want in a free market.


Honestly i dont think a powersports dealership is the best buisness for ma in pa to be in these days. Id like a Ferrari dealership, but there is a large barrier to entry and there is eaiser ways to make money..



Again merry christmas.

Hahah, try buy a Ferrari…. Never mind owning the dealer. Very difficult. These days it seems everyone has money. 2 year plus waiting lists on anything high end.

 

[lilduke]

Hahah, try buy a Ferrari…. Never mind owning the dealer. Very difficult. These days it seems everyone has money. 2 year plus waiting lists on anything high end.

So you dont think Ferrari will let me run a dealership out of a barn in Eckville then.

 

[2kDoo]

So you dont think Ferrari will let me run a dealership out of a barn in Eckville then.

not since the bingo hall "burnt down" 4 years ago.

 

[deaner]

1000$ on a 27000$ machine is 3%. i am not sure what the official definition of gouging is but i don't think its 3%

Yeah I guess these machines are so expensive now that $1000 is alot smaller percentage of the cost. Crazy

I remember when your T buddy quoted me on an xm, asking me not to tell anyone the price because it was "such a good deal", it was way more than a 1000 dollar difference than where i ended up buying. Makes a way bigger difference on a 13k sled!

I wish he was here to chime in about it being all about the relationship

 

[snopro]

I think a lot of people would be surprised how little profit is in a sled

 

[deaner]

I think a lot of people would be surprised how little profit is in a sled

How much? Including back end volume bonuses. Like on the xms I bought out the door for 13200, how much would a dealer make on that....ballpark

 

[snopro]

How much? Including back end volume bonuses. Like on the xms I bought out the door for 13200, how much would a dealer make on that....ballpark

Cost to MSRP is roughly down to 1300-1500? It’s shrinking every year. They used to have discounts if you paid cash but not many dealers are taking advantage of that especially with the rough years recently. Maybe even back to 2015 in Alberta with the oil patch crash. So if a dealer is knocking off $700-$1000 not much left in the piggy bank.

 

[deaner]

Cost to MSRP is roughly down to 1300-1500? It’s shrinking every year. They used to have discounts if you paid cash but not many dealers are taking advantage of that especially with the rough years recently. Maybe even back to 2015 in Alberta with the oil patch crash. So if a dealer is knocking off $700-$1000 not much left in the piggy bank.

Do they make anything on freight, or is that the legit cost that they pay?

It's interesting.....you would think that of all things, sleds would be super high markup. I wonder what brps cost is compared to dealer cost