It’s pretty rare to happen on a 16’ / 17’ however It does happen from time to time...it’s just not as frequent, the 18+ has a roller bearing, the clutch face shives are thinner then the 16’s and 17’s The old style had a little more meat on the clutch face shives so they seem to be much better. Same cover though, which is another issue...put a thunder products or Indy specialties primary cover on and you should be good
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It’s pretty rare to happen on a 16’ / 17’ however It does happen from time to time...it’s just not as frequent, the 18+ has a roller bearing, the clutch face shives are thinner then the 16’s and 17’s The old style had a little more meat on the clutch face shives so they seem to be much better. Same cover though, which is another issue...put a thunder products or Indy specialties primary cover on and you should be good
neilsleder
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I would be borrowing clutches over a chopper ride! Not likely for something to go wrong that would wreck the other set. Just get it to an easy place to tow.
Even without warranty I hope cat helps you out with this known issue. If not show them the scuff mark on your helmet where the piece hit you
Even without warranty I hope cat helps you out with this known issue. If not show them the scuff mark on your helmet where the piece hit you
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For forum entertainment purposes, please describe the noise and your feelings when the clutch exploded.
I had a clutch blow one time and the event was traumatizing. I still shiver thinking about it. Veddy skeddy!
I had a clutch blow one time and the event was traumatizing. I still shiver thinking about it. Veddy skeddy!
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skegpro
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Are the new clutches back ordered d already?
mountianguy
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The new sled should only cost you 100K or more and take a couple years to get through the court system. If you win, if not you are just out the money. Lawyers don't threaten they do or they don't. Just remember you are going after a Billion dollar company with corporate lawyers on staff. All this for 5K maybe you need to redo the math?
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What I have experienced as a dealer for 25 yrs and talking to dealer friends in the past the customer wins 90% of the time. The manufacturers don't want the general public knowing of litigation and don't want it in the courts. They usually always settle out of court to make it go away. I met a guy whose 2008 Summit XP had his driveshaft break while riding it after a safety bulletin was issued for that very problem. He was climbing a hill, the shaft broke and he went over the bars breaking his femur. He sued and they settled out of court. BRP gave him a new sled for the remainder of his riding life as compensation. They weren't interested in going to court and getting the publicity. Another one recently of a Skandic that burned up. New Skandic for the customer and it was later found out they were refueling it while smoking. They didn't even investigate the claim.
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I doubt they will do anything for you but if they do please post it, but i'll be surprise.
My 2017 M8000 caught on fire a month after warranty, the dealer stood by me the whole process to get Textron (Arctic Cat) to cover the manufacturing defect in the wiring. The battery blew up and in the process melted the fuel tank, luckily the whole sled did not burn down. We proved the wiring was wrong and was not being regulated, over charging the battery.
Either way Cat turned their back on us, my dealer was so upset that he personally covered the cost and told me since Textron took over they are impossible to deal with.
I have been a loyal Cat owner since my first 1978 Panther, so some 35years there has been an Arctic Cat in my life. I still have the 17 but as long as Textron owns Arctic Cat i will never purchase another Arctic Cat of any kind.
So when time comes to replacing the 17 M8000 it will be either a Yamaha or Polaris.
BRP is also on the DONOT PURCHASE LIST as they humped me over on a 3 month old engine with 800kms, their so called "BEST" warranty...LOL.
Good luck i hope it works out for you.
My 2017 M8000 caught on fire a month after warranty, the dealer stood by me the whole process to get Textron (Arctic Cat) to cover the manufacturing defect in the wiring. The battery blew up and in the process melted the fuel tank, luckily the whole sled did not burn down. We proved the wiring was wrong and was not being regulated, over charging the battery.
Either way Cat turned their back on us, my dealer was so upset that he personally covered the cost and told me since Textron took over they are impossible to deal with.
I have been a loyal Cat owner since my first 1978 Panther, so some 35years there has been an Arctic Cat in my life. I still have the 17 but as long as Textron owns Arctic Cat i will never purchase another Arctic Cat of any kind.
So when time comes to replacing the 17 M8000 it will be either a Yamaha or Polaris.
BRP is also on the DONOT PURCHASE LIST as they humped me over on a 3 month old engine with 800kms, their so called "BEST" warranty...LOL.
Good luck i hope it works out for you.
That clutch there is the reason I sold my Cat. Way to common of a problem. Works great, but sketchy. Most guys are inspecting them thoroughly each ride. Usually they crack first. Have to get in there with mirrors to look at the sheaves. The new cluches look like yammy built them so hopefully there good
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gedakbx
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we left one one the hill today that looked just like that going to replace it tomorrow and ride it out. ****ty deal forsure
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2 in one weekend on snow and mud. Kanedog get on this.
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Yeah.
Its out.
Pulled the clutches at home.
Need to build a better bracket to put my dial on to check the crank
Break rotor looks okay. Need to rotate it to see it all
Toe guard on that side blew out. Glad i didn't have my foot near there
Its out.
Pulled the clutches at home.
Need to build a better bracket to put my dial on to check the crank
Break rotor looks okay. Need to rotate it to see it all
Toe guard on that side blew out. Glad i didn't have my foot near there
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Jerry from Central Sled and Cycle just called.
Arctic Cat is going to warranty that clutch. And all the damage it caused.
Can't tell you how happy that makes me.
As of now the only issue he said is getting a purple left side panel. It could be a long while. Which is fine. I have all summer.
I'm just super happy with Central and Cat for getting this done.
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Jerry has been outstanding, my new go to for parts, Wetaskiwin isn't that far too drive, and if you can't make the drive, he ships reasonably as well.
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Agreed. With Terry shutting down, Jerry is my new go to. Service is the same as it was (or dare I say better) than at T&T. The drive for me is a bit inconvenient, but I just give them my purolator account and then lI have the parts I need the next morning.
I am just hoping that Jerry can get Cat to cover the primary on one of my '20s that is on the verge of self destruction as well.
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Dawizman
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Hmm. I was originally going to pick up two of the new cat clutches, but these look decent.
Do they fit the Ascender plastics?
I really like the roller design on the current clutches, and the super smooth engagement. It's too bad they don't stay together though.
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Lund
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That's awesome, glad you have someone with an in with Textron. I find them very difficult to deal with and so does my dealer when it comes to warranty. I waited 8 months before they denied the warranty on the wiring for the wife's sled, i didn't wait, it was up within the week of going down and my dealer has had sleds in his shop with blown engines waiting for warranty replies for 2 months.
But that was last season, maybe they got their crap together, eitherway it gave me a real bad taste of Textron. Don't think i'll get another Cat while they own them or for a while.
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