Cigarette Butts Are Litter Too - Edmonton

[drew562]

I would rather a bum pick my butt off the ground and reroll it than have them constantly asking me for smokes. Tossing butts is just fine as long as you don't smoke them down to the filter.

Lol. That made me chuckle

 

[Rjjtcross8]

They just need designated smoking areas in more places. Keeps smokers and non smokers seperate and there is a place for butts.

 

[catinthehat]

I would rather a bum pick my butt off the ground and reroll it than have them constantly asking me for smokes. Tossing butts is just fine as long as you don't smoke them down to the filter.

Tell that to the poor b*st*rd that lost his house to the fire started by a butt tossed out the car window into the grass by the highway. I don't think the fine is high enough nor enforced enough.
ps While they are at it maybe they could go after the drive thru container tossers as well.

 

[Bnorth]

How crowded is the campsite you are at if the smoke bothers you from the next guy over??? I don't smoke but that sounds a little extreme.....

I don't think campsites are an issue except maybe at the private ones where they cram you in like sardines. But at a park in the picnic table areas they are pretty close together and often busy.

 

[whoDEANie]

Tell that to the poor b*st*rd that lost his house to the fire started by a butt tossed out the car window into the grass by the highway. I don't think the fine is high enough nor enforced enough.
ps While they are at it maybe they could go after the drive thru container tossers as well.

Uh oh! Seems the fun police will hand out badges to just about anyone now, but good point on the drive through container tossers. ...they need a serious groin punch. (emoticon to follow)

 

[hbar218]

I've just reading about cigarette smoke and 1-2 m away from a smoker the cigarette smoke has diluted 75% out doors. And they say 7m away from a smoker and there would be no chance of any inhalation of smoke.

I wish that was true with farts, lol

 

[LBZ]

It blows my mind that lots of office buildings in downtown Calgary don't have butt containers. My head office is one for example. This would solve alot of the litter around the city.

 

[Braap!]

could put a hundred smokers in a room and it would take them years to die from the smoke , put one car in a garage and lock yourself in there with it and you'll last about 10-15 minutes but yet it's ok to let your vehicle run while waiting to pick your kid up from school ? People need to get their priorities straight and stop feeding the cash cow , just more laws to take away all our freedom and rights ! What's next alcohol ? in my opinion it causes way more harm than cigarettes do in more ways than I can list. and that's my 5 cents kuz there are no more pennies for 2 cents !

 

[john s]

could put a hundred smokers in a room and it would take them years to die from the smoke , put one car in a garage and lock yourself in there with it and you'll last about 10-15 minutes but yet it's ok to let your vehicle run while waiting to pick your kid up from school ? People need to get their priorities straight and stop feeding the cash cow , just more laws to take away all our freedom and rights ! What's next alcohol ? in my opinion it causes way more harm than cigarettes do in more ways than I can list. and that's my 5 cents kuz there are no more pennies for 2 cents !

I agree it's my choice I smoke and I know the possibilities of what I can get from smoking. I also know if I get I'll from smoking its a burden on the health service. But at the same time if I'm driving home with my family in the truck and a drink driver hits us all is that less of issue than smoking seems to be. If they are going to ban smoking in public places I think they should make a law no drink at all while driving seems fair just in case I get hit by a drink driver.

 

[PS94]

How many people got stabbed and murdered last week alone in Edmonton? And they're cracking down on smokes? I hate butts too, my friends smoke and toss butts on my lawn, but come ON Edmonton, crack down on the crack perhaps??!?!?!?

 

[somethingnuw]

I think smokers have rights and I dont smoke, outdoors in parks who cares...in front high traffic doors, maybe not...and cig butts, throw them in the appropriate container.

the funny part is... walk into downtown Vancouver and you'll see people openly smoking pot...cops don't care.... now your telling me a cop is going to right a guy a ticket for smoking a full taxes paid cigarette mean while the pot smoker walks buy and no one says a thing... LMFAO

 

[mareshow]

It is a tough one. The butt problem is easy if the smokers would realize it. Sort of like the OHV recreationalists busting up the land.

The other part of the right to smoke is a huge issue. Before it is settled, I would hope that some common sense would prevail. Then again, we know what has happened to common sense these days.

could put a hundred smokers in a room and it would take them years to die from the smoke , put one car in a garage and lock yourself in there with it and you'll last about 10-15 minutes but yet it's ok to let your vehicle run while waiting to pick your kid up from school ? People need to get their priorities straight and stop feeding the cash cow , just more laws to take away all our freedom and rights ! What's next alcohol ? in my opinion it causes way more harm than cigarettes do in more ways than I can list. and that's my 5 cents kuz there are no more pennies for 2 cents !

Yeah thats an oranges to oranges comparison... Kinda like comparing a gun to a knife, chemically speaking... They will both kill you, only one has the ability to be a lot faster


The interesting part of the whole thing is that there are almost MILLIONS of studies showing that smoking kills. Yet people continue to do it, so we'll fine smokers for littering to offset the cost that smokers are causing our healthcare system. But hey some people like to be takers... Personally i think that if you smoke you forfeit your right to free healthcare... after all It was your choice to smoke why should I have to pay for it?

 

[Clode]

the funny part is... walk into downtown Vancouver and you'll see people openly smoking pot...cops don't care.... now your telling me a cop is going to right a guy a ticket for smoking a full taxes paid cigarette mean while the pot smoker walks buy and no one says a thing... LMFAO

I avoid Vancouver (aka Hongcouver), and yes what your saying is true...probably less paperwork to issue a smoking citation than pursuing a possession charge !!!!

 

[byronkentgraham]

Yeah thats an oranges to oranges comparison... Kinda like comparing a gun to a knife, chemically speaking... They will both kill you, only one has the ability to be a lot faster


The interesting part of the whole thing is that there are almost MILLIONS of studies showing that smoking kills. Yet people continue to do it, so we'll fine smokers for littering to offset the cost that smokers are causing our healthcare system. But hey some people like to be takers... Personally i think that if you smoke you forfeit your right to free healthcare... after all It was your choice to smoke why should I have to pay for it?

That's like saying "you ride a sled, you know they are dangerous. Why should I have to pay for you when you hurt yourself?"

That's the reason I don't agree with universal healthcare.

 

[lilduke]

Uh I pay for my Health Care in the form of TAXES and lots of them. Maybe you guys dont?

 

[magnet]

Uh I pay for my Health Care in the form of TAXES and lots of them. Maybe you guys dont?

Uh your taxes no matter what you pay doesn't come close to covering your health care
We all pay a portion with taxes but I don't think it is anywhere near the actual total.
Brother in law got sick in the states with no insurance. 3 days bill was near 15g

 

[lilduke]

Uh your taxes no matter what you pay doesn't come close to covering your health care
We all pay a portion with taxes but I don't think it is anywhere near the actual total.
Brother in law got sick in the states with no insurance. 3 days bill was near 15g

My families company pays over 100g a month in taxes,,, Pretty sure that will cover it

Where do you think the money comes from? the government just pulls it out of there ass?

 

[magnet]

Your families company pays not you
Govt subsidizes health care through both taxes and exports of goods and services I.e oil pays in Alberta, trees in bc, gas in Sask and a combination of the three support the rest of Canada as well.
Must be a pretty big company to pay 100g a month in taxes that would be grossing around a half mil a month not bad

 

[lilduke]

Your families company pays not you
Govt subsidizes health care through both taxes and exports of goods and services I.e oil pays in Alberta, trees in bc, gas in Sask and a combination of the three support the rest of Canada as well.
Must be a pretty big company to pay 100g a month in taxes that would be grossing around a half mil a month not bad

Its a realatively small company actually,, but we do Ok. Government really makes it hard for small companies.

In our buisness (construction) lets say we pick up a 2million dollar contract we pay GST and source deductions ext Long before we ever get paid.

Plus I pay income taxes and taxes on everything I buy or do. If that doesnt give me as much right as anyone to health care in this country what the hell does?

Im gonna have to strongly disagree with you on this one pal....

 

[magnet]

Never said you had no right everybody does. Just people that live higher risk lifestyles should be paying more maybe I don't know the "proper" way to fix our health care but it is a seriously failed system
If you play in a high risk way, snow biking, bike/ qaud racing boat racing ...., I know you have to pay much higher life and disability premiums if you want to have any type of coverage if an accident should happen