Catalyst Cat Chassis

Radar78

Active VIP Member
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
611
Reaction score
1,394
Location
Dundurn, Sask. Canada
Holy balls. This thing might actually be awesome! But let me get this straight…..I can’t get one with at least an 800cc engine until 2025? Wtf?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

RyanM

Active VIP Member
Joined
Apr 1, 2011
Messages
1,374
Reaction score
5,715
Location
Bonnyville
Do people even buy much for 600cc mountain sleds?

Cat better have monster of a motor/motors in the works. Bring back the 700 and 900’s. Give the 700 a long stroke and beefy crank so it makes decent torque then make bigger jugs to up it to a 900 and square off the stroke to piston diameter ratio to make the 900 happier up top. But what the fuk do I know besides I’m tired of seeing Cat take a back seat to the other two brands.
 

Modman

Active VIP Member
Joined
Mar 13, 2008
Messages
6,040
Reaction score
8,523
Location
Castlegar
Do people even buy much for 600cc mountain sleds?

Cat better have monster of a motor/motors in the works. Bring back the 700 and 900’s. Give the 700 a long stroke and beefy crank so it makes decent torque then make bigger jugs to up it to a 900 and square off the stroke to piston diameter ratio to make the 900 happier up top. But what the fuk do I know besides I’m tired of seeing Cat take a back seat to the other two brands.
Motor specs will come into play, cuz the new injectors shoot through the pistons. Longer stroke is more piston speed and harder on parts. 82 mm X 80 mm bore and stroke is basically the ski doo 850. 84 X 81 mm by the numbers is 897cc. You could lower it but too square and it'll have issues. You have rod ratios, angles etc etc to worry about. The M1000 was 90.3 x 78.7mm bore to stroke, so 1.15 ratio (bore over stroke). New Ski Doo 850 is 1.04 and the Polaris is 1.18. In order to keep the engine height down, they might have to keep the stroke similar to now, not sure how it fits in the new chassis but that's a big consideration. Rod ratio will play a big factor in the piston wear with windowed pistons as side pressure increases, less surface area to support spiton skirts. Also, crank deflection........
 

sirkdev

Active VIP Member
Joined
Nov 2, 2008
Messages
3,305
Reaction score
5,404
Location
Stony Plain
Motor specs will come into play, cuz the new injectors shoot through the pistons. Longer stroke is more piston speed and harder on parts. 82 mm X 80 mm bore and stroke is basically the ski doo 850. 84 X 81 mm by the numbers is 897cc. You could lower it but too square and it'll have issues. You have rod ratios, angles etc etc to worry about. The M1000 was 90.3 x 78.7mm bore to stroke, so 1.15 ratio (bore over stroke). New Ski Doo 850 is 1.04 and the Polaris is 1.18. In order to keep the engine height down, they might have to keep the stroke similar to now, not sure how it fits in the new chassis but that's a big consideration. Rod ratio will play a big factor in the piston wear with windowed pistons as side pressure increases, less surface area to support spiton skirts. Also, crank deflection........
Do these things keep you up at night.. all valid points!
 

mountianguy

Active VIP Member
Joined
Apr 26, 2009
Messages
575
Reaction score
738
Location
stony plain
Arctic Cat hasn't used slotted pistons in the 800 since 2019 on North American models. Some European used the slotted piston not sure if they still do or not.
 

snopro

Active VIP Member
Joined
Mar 3, 2009
Messages
109,955
Reaction score
108,869
Location
Milo,Alberta
😬
 

Attachments

  • 8FBE7D2B-7B92-4A8D-B599-AA179ED152C3.jpeg
    8FBE7D2B-7B92-4A8D-B599-AA179ED152C3.jpeg
    299.6 KB · Views: 366

tmo1620

Active VIP Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
4,065
Reaction score
8,129
Location
Whitecourt
Some riding footage. There’s more on his IG page.



With a real motor it could be a winner, by the time that happens though I’ll either be on a different brand or quit sledding all together so kind of too late for this long time cat rider me thinks.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Couch

Active VIP Member
Joined
Apr 14, 2013
Messages
693
Reaction score
1,235
Location
Nl
Looks like it's able to lift even with the 600 ...more video would be nice especially without bullet time / slow mo edits

Sent from my motorola edge plus using Tapatalk
 

tmo1620

Active VIP Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2008
Messages
4,065
Reaction score
8,129
Location
Whitecourt
Looks like it's able to lift even with the 600 ...more video would be nice especially without bullet time / slow mo edits

Sent from my motorola edge plus using Tapatalk

But that’s how you creatively make the sled look better than it is


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Top Bottom