Building a garage-shop , need help

[tex78]

So I'm perplexed, looking at building a shop , 40x40 with two side 12x40 open storage bays

I've got two quotes that are outrageous for prices in wood framed 130-160000.00 , which includes the pad and footings

Looked at a metal 42x44 commercial building ( 80000.00 ), but then would have to build the side storage bays extra like pole sheds , and wood walls inside with insulation, work benches , plywood to hang stuff on walls ect , plus the pad and footings cost


160000.00 for a garage is crazy is it not ???


Need advice , know there was a thread I kinda lost where it went

 

[Rn4]

It’s honestly just gross what costs are. I had premium built structures out of red deer build me a pole shed early this summer. It was 30x40x14’ with 6” concrete, manual 12’ overhead door. I’ve got basic power and lights in it, no insulation. Probably sitting at about 75-80k. Will pluck away at the rest at my own pace since I can’t dump loads of money at it to fI is hit right away. But they were one of the better quotes I came across.

 

[Frosty19]

Todays prices, that doesn't seem far off being $100 a sqft with foundation depending if that's fully finished. That also makes the extra roof and structure for the lean toos throw ins

 

[niner]

So I'm perplexed, looking at building a shop , 40x40 with two side 12x40 open storage bays

I've got two quotes that are outrageous for prices in wood framed 130-160000.00 , which includes the pad and footings

Looked at a metal 42x44 commercial building ( 80000.00 ), but then would have to build the side storage bays extra like pole sheds , and wood walls inside with insulation, work benches , plywood to hang stuff on walls ect , plus the pad and footings cost


160000.00 for a garage is crazy is it not ???


Need advice , know there was a thread I kinda lost where it went

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Should price out a 40x60 and ditch the sides. Will be less labour to build one single building than adding the sides. Then you will have more inside storage. Can always do a inside partition if you want cold storage. Just a thought to get more bang for your buck.

 

[tex78]

Should price out a 40x60 and ditch the sides. Will be less labour to build one single building than adding the sides. Then you will have more inside storage. Can always do a inside partition if you want cold storage. Just a thought to get more bang for your buck.

Huh something to think about

Tough to back trailers in , unless there is a separate entrance , for the cold storage

 

[SUMMIT TREE]

Back in the day when I was looking, I found a deal on a metal building package. It had been ordered and a down payment was made on it, but the deal fell thru. I could have picked it up for a heck of a discount. If you shop around maybe you could find similar deals?

 

[tex78]

Back in the day when I was looking, I found a deal on a metal building package. It had been ordered and a down payment was made on it, but the deal fell thru. I could have picked it up for a heck of a discount. If you shop around maybe you could find similar deals?

I talked to a different metal building company tonight , after my post here

Csd buildings , outa golden



Very helpful guy , probably enough I'll go with them


He said you have to watch, lots of places have different slow load specs

So say your from mission and order one , don't get it and they are stuck with it


Now you ( not the first dude ) buy it a big discount, get it either put up or ready to with footings and such


Then find out the engineering specs don't pass for the area your in , say revelstoke as example

Now your stuck with it or won't pass inspection, and can not get insurance

 

[SUMMIT TREE]

yeah. That could be a real issue. My neighbour has a huge riding arena with the roof collapsed in right now. Im sure it will be a huge court battle.

 

[skegpro]

yeah. That could be a real issue. My neighbour has a huge riding arena with the roof collapsed in right now. Im sure it will be a huge court battle.

Another one, wow.
Seems to be about one a year.

 

[skegpro]

So I'm perplexed, looking at building a shop , 40x40 with two side 12x40 open storage bays

I've got two quotes that are outrageous for prices in wood framed 130-160000.00 , which includes the pad and footings

Looked at a metal 42x44 commercial building ( 80000.00 ), but then would have to build the side storage bays extra like pole sheds , and wood walls inside with insulation, work benches , plywood to hang stuff on walls ect , plus the pad and footings cost


160000.00 for a garage is crazy is it not ???


Need advice , know there was a thread I kinda lost where it went

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So why not just go a little bigger with the metal shop and have everything enclosed, no open bays.....

 

[Frosty19]

Do prefab engineered not get reviewed for permit there?
We can barely build anything here without an engineered stamp. Seems pretty self explanatory for someone when signing off on a building if they loaded it for the proper snow zone

 

[Absledder]

Yes be careful with local codes. They often make little sense in my experience. My brother in law put up a pole barn a few year ago and because he was "residential" at 9.98 acres he had to follow different rules then if he was "agricultural" at 10+ acres. Specifically I think he said he needed almost twice as many trusses due to the different spacing allowed. You'll also have to watch out for max square footage rules depending what other structures you have on the land

 

[ctd]

Thinking about niner's comment, any prep that could be done @ the same time to add a side or sides @ a latter date?

Add an overhead door on the side were you actually may do a side @ a latter date. That overhead door would be opposite end of your main overhead door. Access to both ends of the building.

I don't see any mention of ceiling height, one of biggest regrets has been not having @ least one 14' overhead door.

Have you considered ICF? Fire, bugs rodents etc. never mind R factor & others. I'm starting to think about building shop & wondered what the cost is vs stick considering todays market.

Then there is tilt up, don't know if that is an option anymore.

 

[tex78]

So why not just go a little bigger with the metal shop and have everything enclosed, no open bays.....

Just so I'm not heating 2200 square feet and only 1600

 

[tex78]

Do prefab engineered not get reviewed for permit there?
We can barely build anything here without an engineered stamp. Seems pretty self explanatory for someone when signing off on a building if they loaded it for the proper snow zone

Yes , it will be built to spec for here , as it's not a left over

 

[tex78]

Thinking about niner's comment, any prep that could be done @ the same time to add a side or sides @ a latter date?

Add an overhead door on the side were you actually may do a side @ a latter date. That overhead door would be opposite end of your main overhead door. Access to both ends of the building.

I don't see any mention of ceiling height, one of biggest regrets has been not having @ least one 14' overhead door.

Have you considered ICF? Fire, bugs rodents etc. never mind R factor & others. I'm starting to think about building shop & wondered what the cost is vs stick considering todays market.

Then there is tilt up, don't know if that is an option anymore.

12 x12 door

14 foot walls , 16.6 at tip of peak

12 foot t rafters on inside , side storage bays


He said they can sonic tube the footings where each beam is , 6 big ones

I asked about cold and doing the deep insulated footings, he said not really needed or warmer if the base plates are done right

 

[skegpro]

Just so I'm not heating 2200 square feet and only 1600

Split the shop in half with a supporting wall, one half cold storage, the other half heated.

 

[RXN]

Stay away from the prefabbed steel buildings.
I went that way. Thought it was a cheaper option.
Nope.
I'm un insulated and into mine for just under 80.
And being no posts inside and selves and hooks or outlets on the walls are screwed through the wall and permanent now.
Neighbor built the same size, out of wood. He's insulated and heated at the same price I was.

40 long 30 wide. 16 at the peak. 8ft walls

 

[lilduke]

Sounds like you need an Alaskan mill.

Just start bucking down some cedars & maker yourself. haha

 

[tex78]

Sounds like you need an Alaskan mill.

Just start bucking down some cedars & maker yourself. haha

Sold 7 loads off the property of fir


Thought of that , but needs time to dry and also needs to be manufactured wood for insurance purposes