Brp will dominate 2021-2026

[snopro]

You should try one. First thing you will notice is new sleds have suspension. Lol

 

[Frankenytro]

sometimes you just can’t take the ol boy off of bogie wheels and boot on paddles.....

I bet the freak still has a stack of 1.25” bolt ons and “knows” that they are what will take the edge further than any factory turbo.

You should try one. First thing you will notice is new sleds have suspension. Lol

 

[maxwell]

My buddy rode one. He can't believe where all the hype is coming from. He said they are bunk.

your buddy? you can lie to your"friends"and ill lie to mine but lets not lie to eachother man, you dont have friends.

 

[Vipertonytro]

I will never understand these comments. Yeah I know Quebec is a sore spot. But is it better to spend your money out of Canada? If you don't like BRP products don't buy them, its that simple. But to not buy it because they are built in Quebec and spend your money in the states is kind of hypocritical

I am probably in the minority but with all that is going on I just can not support quebec in any way. BRP makes good products but just can't support them. Harsh stance I know but as a western person and ex oil patch and ag sector enough is enough.

 

[LennyR]

I will never understand these comments. Yeah I know Quebec is a sore spot. But is it better to spend your money out of Canada? If you don't like BRP products don't buy them, its that simple. But to not buy it because they are built in Quebec and spend your money in the states is kind of hypocritical

“Insanity “, continuing to do the same thing over and over , while expecting a different result ! Plus , complaining afterwards that things aren’t changing !!

 

[Lund]

If this 850 engine is everything i think it will be the only real setback in BRP dominating the scene will be its sad suspension. Designed and fabricated for the newbie rider.
With this new 850 BRP needs to up their game further and offer a real skid design for the advance rider well still offering its current (let me help you ride skid) for the handicaps.
Its one of the thing I dislike the most on Ski-Doo sleds, my size, weight and riding style just smashes the skid. All the guys I ride with on current Doo's have either switched out the skid or modified it at the rear scissor.
Till then BRP is a runner up with the others in who dominates....JMO

 

[oler1234]

If this 850 engine is everything i think it will be the only real setback in BRP dominating the scene will be its sad suspension. Designed and fabricated for the newbie rider.
With this new 850 BRP needs to up their game further and offer a real skid design for the advance rider well still offering its current (let me help you ride skid) for the handicaps.
Its one of the thing I dislike the most on Ski-Doo sleds, my size, weight and riding style just smashes the skid. All the guys I ride with on current Doo's have either switched out the skid or modified it at the rear scissor.
Till then BRP is a runner up with the others in who dominates....JMO

lol, seriously.

keep riding that Yamaha buck board. Love the plush ride of skidoo.

 

[Shredder]

If this 850 engine is everything i think it will be the only real setback in BRP dominating the scene will be its sad suspension. Designed and fabricated for the newbie rider.
With this new 850 BRP needs to up their game further and offer a real skid design for the advance rider well still offering its current (let me help you ride skid) for the handicaps.
Its one of the thing I dislike the most on Ski-Doo sleds, my size, weight and riding style just smashes the skid. All the guys I ride with on current Doo's have either switched out the skid or modified it at the rear scissor.
Till then BRP is a runner up with the others in who dominates....JMO

Everyone has differing opinions I guess. I have been riding sleds for almost 40 years now. With 20 of those years being in the mountains, and I really like the rear skid set up on my 2019 175 Doo vs the 2017 163 Axys I had prior to this sled. I find this sled rides smoother and is just easier to ride all around. But I don't like the steep technical terrain. I think the type of riding a person wants to do is what determines their opinion on a lot of aspects of every sled. Seems the newest rage is to find a hill and do bowties, re-entries, and flip the sleds upside down and sideways all day. Hence the Khaos type sled. Bro in law that rides trees all day long on his 174 Axys tried one and said for what he does it was garbage cause it kept wanting to stand straight up when he was trying to climb. Same as a guy that wants to just goon around all day isn't going to find a 174/175 is gonna be their cup of tea.

 

[snopro]

I agree. Lots of comments about the rear skid in the Doo's transferring to much. For climbing its not my cup of tea but for the guys doing all the trick stuff its perfect. What I do like as compared to the Polaris's is it rides alot smoother on rough trails and absorbs rough stuff better. A stiffer suspension like the Polaris probably is better on holding a line on a sidehill but lacks on the trail. Would like to try an Alpha on the mountain sometime to see how it feels on the trail and the hill.

 

[Longhairfreak]

I agree. Lots of comments about the rear skid in the Doo's transferring to much. For climbing its not my cup of tea but for the guys doing all the trick stuff its perfect. What I do like as compared to the Polaris's is it rides alot smoother on rough trails and absorbs rough stuff better. A stiffer suspension like the Polaris probably is better on holding a line on a sidehill but lacks on the trail. Would like to try an Alpha on the mountain sometime to see how it feels on the trail and the hill.

I'm no expert ( just ask Maxwell ) but the last thing you want in the mountains is transfer. I don't care what kind of riding you do.

 

[snopro]

I'm no expert ( just ask Maxwell ) but the last thing you want in the mountains is transfer. I don't care what kind of riding you do.

No I agree for climbing but not for boondocking, tree riding, reentries. All the stuff me and you are far to old to be trying. Lol

 

[snochuk]

I agree. Lots of comments about the rear skid in the Doo's transferring to much. For climbing its not my cup of tea but for the guys doing all the trick stuff its perfect. What I do like as compared to the Polaris's is it rides alot smoother on rough trails and absorbs rough stuff better. A stiffer suspension like the Polaris probably is better on holding a line on a sidehill but lacks on the trail. Would like to try an Alpha on the mountain sometime to see how it feels on the trail and the hill.

If you stick a Fox QSL or any locking shock on the back of a doo you get that much close to meeting the needs of the vast majority.
The locking rear shock on my Alpha made a big difference on handling for boondocking and then climbing.
The stock doo skid is average for varied needs of different riding styles as stock but not difficult to upgrade substantially to meet more varied needs and perform better for each.

 

[maxwell]

its pretty clear that skidoo just needs to release 2 rear skid options for snowchecks. The "Old Geezer" version with coupled skid and low attack angle. and the Young Punk version, Steep attack angle and all the transfer a young guy could ask for LOL

 

[Lund]

I ride with several different groups during the season, one group consist of alot more meadow and tree riding while the other will mingle in the tree's but prefer mixing it up more by getting more into the alpine. Both these group of riders ride average to what you see out there and the current line of Doo's fit's in nice, infact any brand or model mountain sled will fit these 2 group of friends just out having fun.
But i also ride with a very advance group, once a month only. Its a tight group, we have been together for years now and some would even say the riding is at a professional level.
Non of the sleds are stock and no stock sled would be able to ride those areas we get into. My sled is built specifically for that application. We have 3 850 Doo's and all three required suspension modifications to them.
Just like snopro mentioned, they simply transfer too much, fact is the 850 is not well composed when you have HP behind it. As stock 135-40hp at elevation they transfer too much, making holding your line difficult through a 4ft wide notch on a steep climb 1500ft away.
2 of the 850's are getting traded for the new 850T for next season. It will be interesting to see how they do but we suspect it will be an issue with the skid.
In general the current line up with current set up is great for average, even advance riders but it has traits that are to be desired by some pushing the bigger stuff, power and terrain.
Personally if Doo offers this unit with another skid less oriented in making the sled easier to ride and more performance inclined for the big terrain i'ed be in on it.
Well they would need to up that power to atleast 190-200 factory. I think they can do it, that 850 is a sweet 2 stroke.

 

[maxwell]

I ride with several different groups during the season, one group consist of alot more meadow and tree riding while the other will mingle in the tree's but prefer mixing it up more by getting more into the alpine. Both these group of riders ride average to what you see out there and the current line of Doo's fit's in nice, infact any brand or model mountain sled will fit these 2 group of friends just out having fun.
But i also ride with a very advance group, once a month only. Its a tight group, we have been together for years now and some would even say the riding is at a professional level.
Non of the sleds are stock and no stock sled would be able to ride those areas we get into. My sled is built specifically for that application. We have 3 850 Doo's and all three required suspension modifications to them.
Just like snopro mentioned, they simply transfer too much, fact is the 850 is not well composed when you have HP behind it. As stock 135-40hp at elevation they transfer too much, making holding your line difficult through a 4ft wide notch on a steep climb 1500ft away.
2 of the 850's are getting traded for the new 850T for next season. It will be interesting to see how they do but we suspect it will be an issue with the skid.
In general the current line up with current set up is great for average, even advance riders but it has traits that are to be desired by some pushing the bigger stuff, power and terrain.
Personally if Doo offers this unit with another skid less oriented in making the sled easier to ride and more performance inclined for the big terrain i'ed be in on it.
Well they would need to up that power to atleast 190-200 factory. I think they can do it, that 850 is a sweet 2 stroke.

No stock 850 can ride where you ride eh? My Bullchit alarm is going off LOL

 

[snopro]

its pretty clear that skidoo just needs to release 2 rear skid options for snowchecks. The "Old Geezer" version with coupled skid and low attack angle. and the Young Punk version, Steep attack angle and all the transfer a young guy could ask for LOL

Or a 1997 Polaris RMK skid option for Freak. Lol

 

[Lund]

No stock 850 can ride where you ride eh? My Bullchit alarm is going off LOL

Its the chutes that need to be pulled to get into the zones, no other way around it. You need about 200hp on a good day, it will be interesting to see the 850T pulling up them. There are 2 large chutes needed to pull and the second one is coming off a sidehill, hook a left and straight up.
I don't think the 850T is up to the task, maybe in certain snow BUT it is not accessible on the set snow, you need to be able to cut into the mountain to hold the side hill around to the chute or your Faucked

If you get up its a huge riding zone, literally no one rides there, well very few do. A real GEM but access is not for anyone.
It is not a recognized "snowmobiling" riding area.

 

[Longhairfreak]

Or a 1997 Polaris RMK skid option for Freak. Lol

My skid design is based on a much older skid than that. You don't need suspension in 3 ft of power. The snow becomes your suspension.

 

[maxwell]

My skid design is based on a much older skid than that. You don't need suspension in 3 ft of power. The snow becomes your suspension.

what about the other 90% of the year where its not 3 feet deep LOL

 

[Caper11]

My skid design is based on a much older skid than that. You don't need suspension in 3 ft of power. The snow becomes your suspension.

Dont need a suspension? You bored and stirring the pot again.?