BC, what have you done???? NDP is gonna take you down, big time

[rzrgade]

I can't believe the "stick my head in the sand" so it did not happen mentality....

Will you all have to move or declare bankruptcy before the proof is overwhelming?

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I can't believe the "stick my head in the sand" so it did not happen mentality....

Will you all have to move or declare bankruptcy before the proof is overwhelming?

Have you moved or gone bankrupt?

 

[rzrgade]

Yes I moved from BC after the first taste of the NDP ..
Best thing we ever did!

Alberta has been very good to us ...
But don't take my opinion , study the fiscal record of any province governed by an NDP party .

Of course you realize I am being sarcastic, but the fact is a lot of people will lose everything and be forced to move once most industry is shut down .

Leaving even fewer people to pay for the compounding debt that the NDP always manage to rack up . To top that off ,most of the NDP & green supporters live off EI or the underground economy ( lol) and pay no tax ... only draw out of the system .

So yes , I would strongly consider getting out while a person still can ....
Before it's too late .

 

[X-it]

Alberta has not gone bankrupt, but their credit rating as fallen all the way down to A+ . Now some people do not have enough connected brain cells to know what that means. Mean while in BC ours has gone up to an AAA....if this coup continues expect that rating to fall

 

[Summitric]

Alberta has not gone bankrupt, but their credit rating as fallen all the way down to A+ . Now some people do not have enough connected brain cells to know what that means. Mean while in BC ours has gone up to an AAA....if this coup continues expect that rating to fall

Alberta is A- ... downgraded again when the last budget came out ....

 

[rzrgade]

I am referring to the plight of the every day working family , while the gov credit rating is terrible for all NDP governments .
It effects the lives of every day people when jobs are lost / houses become unmarketable/ schools close /businesses go under etc etc ...
The current gov in bc would be totally unaware of the consequences of their actions because they have no concept of reality outside of their voting strongholds ( lower mainland / island/ parted okanogon..) . Basically where people work hard and support themselves / not spend all day protesting and looking for handouts !

The regular working people are the ones who will suffer and ultimately have to pay off all the red ink for decades to come ...
Usually long after the NDP are gone .

 

[ZRrrr]

I was back reading your fondness for the NDP prior to them getting elected in Alberta .
How did that work out ....lol

Always the same people saying the sky is falling. Maybe spend a little more time actually researching the facts behind your rants. There are numerous journalists and media sources out there that tell a very different story. Rebel Media, Facebook and Fox News should not be your only sources. I take a pragmatic approach to life and politics, as do numerous others on here I have come to respect.....perhaps you should too.

I appreciate a good debate and am willing to listen to all sides....but it's always the same people with the same rant. Not sure why I even bother trying to bring some balance and truth to these threads. You know nothing of me, when, how or why I choose my politics, how I live my life. Keep looking to poke holes all you want......I have come to realize there are some people worth worrying about, and others.....well not so much.

 

[rzrgade]

I know enough to know that no matter what news source you ( or I ) listen to the NDP are doing a brutal job .

Now you can divert the topic / or try to dodge the facts all you want ...
The numbers don't lie .
But the point is you were very pro NDP prior to the election .
Do you really think they are doing a good job ...
All the people on hear that are apparently not as well versed in seeking out the facts ,are curious as to your opinion on the job knotley has done so far ....

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I know enough to know that no matter what news source you ( or I ) listen to the NDP are doing a brutal job .

Now you can divert the topic / or try to dodge the facts all you want ...
The numbers don't lie .
But the point is you were very pro NDP prior to the election .
Do you really think they are doing a good job ...
All the people on hear that are apparently not as well versed in seeking out the facts ,are curious as to your opinion on the job knotley has done so far ....

Your the same guy saying get out of the way of the NDP government but has been living under their shadow for the last two years. Are you still in Alberta or have you sold everything and moved to Saskatchewan before the bank took it? Your also the same guy that credits the NDP for a decline in oil business, something they have little to no control over and if actually look at the facts oil production in Alberta is higher then the previous government. I am not a fan of the NDP at all and don't care for many of their policies but back to my original argument petronas pulling out was not at the fault of the NDP. Financially and logistically it was a business decision and if the previous government had not been so slow getting to the party maybe things would be different. As for the site C project I am yet to meet a BCer that has been on board. We give enough power to the Americans for free why give more

 

[rzrgade]

The NDP will be short lived in Alberta . Have you checked the polls ?
They would of never gotten in had the vote not been split . Incidentally a lot of Alberta's workers have moved to Saskatchewan. Lol
If you think big oil ( or any big business)likes an NDP government , I have just wasted my time trying to make my point to you ..

You just keep thinking they (NDP) are not so bad ...
We will chat again in 4 years .
Good luck ..
BC will need it .

 

[X-it]

Hey way a minute here rzrgade, we had NDP first. And I hate to admit, what an idiot I was to vote for them, two terms and we were in as bad a financial mess as you are right now. This time NDP is only in there because of the shenanigans they pulled. I still think Christy will have the last laugh.

 

[rzrgade]

I hope you are right ...
I think in hindsight she did a pretty fair job .
And as time starts to pass ,her time will look better and better...lol

Much like a lot of people wanted Harper gone ..
And now look .
Be careful what you wish for !
I hope BC slogs through it and smarter heads prevail next election . Two terms and it will take decades to erase the red ink ...
Either way, good luck ..

 

[Scrambled]

Well I hate all politicians equally but my opinion is the only reason Crusty only got elected last time because the big promise on getting rich of LNG but in 4 years nothing at all came of it so she failed,she took money from BC ferries,BC Hydro and ICBC to help fund her budget to look balanced,fail now there talking raising rates to cover it,not good,she new the softwood lumber deal was expiring she did squat just to name a few,so to me all that screw the average working families.wont even get into all the budget cuts,I'm old enough to remember vividly the last time NDP were in and yup they sucked but all we can do is hope it's a new guy with new thoughts.we can't let someone screw us because we are to afraid to get screwed more.like I said at the start I hate them equally and know none are working for me,so all we can do is hope.i will say at least the new guy is actually down in Washington talking about the softwood deal which is better then before,he froze the ferry fairs instead of raising them like they were going to do,which is good for me,so you can do the sky is falling and we are all fcked if you wish , kinda get tired of hearing it but it's you fellows right to say as you wish,me I'll just go on and see how it plays out and hope it works out ok,I know I'm getting screwed so I don't expect much but if I get afew benefits I'll be happy (like ferry freeze). anyways that's an Islanders view.were all just Greenies,protester and living off the system,lol.kinda getting tired of hearing that to, pissis me off alittle actually, putting down my friends and family in away,not good.

 

[Stompin Tom]

Well I hate all politicians equally but my opinion is the only reason Crusty only got elected last time because the big promise on getting rich of LNG but in 4 years nothing at all came of it so she failed,she took money from BC ferries,BC Hydro and ICBC to help fund her budget to look balanced,fail now there talking raising rates to cover it,not good,she new the softwood lumber deal was expiring she did squat just to name a few,so to me all that screw the average working families.wont even get into all the budget cuts,I'm old enough to remember vividly the last time NDP were in and yup they sucked but all we can do is hope it's a new guy with new thoughts.we can't let someone screw us because we are to afraid to get screwed more.like I said at the start I hate them equally and know none are working for me,so all we can do is hope.i will say at least the new guy is actually down in Washington talking about the softwood deal which is better then before,he froze the ferry fairs instead of raising them like they were going to do,which is good for me,so you can do the sky is falling and we are all fcked if you wish , kinda get tired of hearing it but it's you fellows right to say as you wish,me I'll just go on and see how it plays out and hope it works out ok,I know I'm getting screwed so I don't expect much but if I get afew benefits I'll be happy (like ferry freeze). anyways that's an Islanders view.were all just Greenies,protester and living off the system,lol.kinda getting tired of hearing that to, pissis me off alittle actually, putting down my friends and family in away,not good.

The NDP are blowing hot air when it comes to the softwood situation, it is a federal matter, provincial government have no power in the matter. Nothing more than a chance to make a trip on tax payers dime and twist it so he can look like he is trying. He has ZERO power or influence on any softwood agreement or tariffs.

If you Islanders arnt Greenies then why the hell did you vote 3 of them in? The only place they came close to getting voted in.

 

[Stompin Tom]

I hope you are right ...
I think in hindsight she did a pretty fair job .
And as time starts to pass ,her time will look better and better...lol

Much like a lot of people wanted Harper gone ..
And now look .
Be careful what you wish for !
I hope BC slogs through it and smarter heads prevail next election . Two terms and it will take decades to erase the red ink ...
Either way, good luck ..

The best case scenario for BS is to let the NDP run things for about 1 year, let them start showing their true colors, then have Weaver flip on them and force an election. All it takes is for 2 members of the NDP or Greenies to not show up at Parliment one day and the Liberals can force a non-confidence vote.

In my opinion the only reason Weaver is putting up with Horgan is because neither party can afford another provincial election in the short term. They have to do what they can to fill their party bank accounts because right now both parties are pretty much broke.

 

[rzrgade]

I agree ... though they are in power.. it is tumultuous grip at best .
Hopefully the Libs can force an early election.
I was raised in the island and fully understand the issues it faces in terms of ferries ..
I fully understood how the last NDP gov botched the ferry system with the giant cluster%uck known as the fast ferry fiasco.
So if they " freeze "rates on ferry fares , guess what .. they will just take that cash from taxpayers somewhere else .

Also the ferries are dam near older than I am ... eventually they will have to be replaced ..
Guess what that will do to ferry rates .
While I did not say say anyone specifically is the root of all problems on the island , the fact is they as a whole voted an extreme left wing socialist government in .
So that speaks to who they are and what they desire , as a group .

 

[Stompin Tom]

Your the same guy saying get out of the way of the NDP government but has been living under their shadow for the last two years. Are you still in Alberta or have you sold everything and moved to Saskatchewan before the bank took it? Your also the same guy that credits the NDP for a decline in oil business, something they have little to no control over and if actually look at the facts oil production in Alberta is higher then the previous government. I am not a fan of the NDP at all and don't care for many of their policies but back to my original argument petronas pulling out was not at the fault of the NDP. Financially and logistically it was a business decision and if the previous government had not been so slow getting to the party maybe things would be different. As for the site C project I am yet to meet a BCer that has been on board. We give enough power to the Americans for free why give more

You might want to get out of your cocoon. I support site C and the vast majority in this region support it. You dont build a power generation station to meed demands now, you build one to meet the demands of the future. In case you have not noticed, the world is going more and more electrical and less and less oil driven. You knock BC for being way behind on LNG, then you knock them for trying to be ahead of the curve with hydro generation. Bit of a hypocrite if I do say so myself.

 

[Stompin Tom]

I agree ... though they are in power.. it is tumultuous grip at best .
Hopefully the Libs can force an early election.

It appears that many dont understand the effects of consumer confidence. Once you get a NDP government it almost automatically creates a small recession because people become very afraid and quit spending putting the economy into a tailspin. Then the stock markets and Wall Street take notice and walla, your screwed, credit ratings drop, big business becomes very leary and soon nobody is spending money. Well nobody except the NDP government giving handouts to every Tom Dick and Harry with their hands out. To bad they cant figure out a way to bring in some revenue before spending it.

 

[Scrambled]

I be into that but only if it's not another waist of 44 million, personally since we pay them all they should just work together for the good of the province, party politics suck

 

[Stompin Tom]

I agree ... though they are in power.. it is tumultuous grip at best .
Hopefully the Libs can force an early election.
I was raised in the island and fully understand the issues it faces in terms of ferries ..
I fully understood how the last NDP gov botched the ferry system with the giant cluster%uck known as the fast ferry fiasco.
So if they " freeze "rates on ferry fares , guess what .. they will just take that cash from taxpayers somewhere else .

Also the ferries are dam near older than I am ... eventually they will have to be replaced ..
Guess what that will do to ferry rates .
While I did not say say anyone specifically is the root of all problems on the island , the fact is they as a whole voted an extreme left wing socialist government in .
So that speaks to who they are and what they desire , as a group .

Here is my problem with the Island. Other than tourism they have no industry. Tourism is for the most part a low paying industry, but they want to live high on the hog. As a group they want, want, want, but they have not explained to us how they plan on paying for it. Its a great place to live, a wonderful climate and very pretty, but that doesnt put bread on the table. So hey, lets vote in the Greenies, they like to live in pretty places to, they will feed us what we want and keep on keeping on. Lets let the rest of the province pay the bills, but hey, while were at it, lets shut down site c although pretty much nobody on the island has been anywhere close to the region its being built, nor do they consider the extra hydro they need for their grow ops.