BC bush closing in the Board Room stage??

[tmo1620]

LOL where do you get this information? They are trying to get the federal military in to police the provincial boarders?? When the provincial boarders are not even closed as of now.

Bc and manitoba premier have been trying, closed door asking of everybody favorite drama teacher. They have to get federal support to be able to, provincial borders can be closed in extreme emergency situations and the federal govt uses military as basically a national guard presence to do it. It is being talked about, we are a socialist country now so anything is possible

 

[OOC ZigZag]

For a virus that’s 99.96 % beatable WTFU sheeple y’all getting played hard.

 

[OOC ZigZag]

Nuff of the “C” word. Reload on the way braaaaaaaaap.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Bc and manitoba premier have been trying, closed door asking of everybody favorite drama teacher. They have to get federal support to be able to, provincial borders can be closed in extreme emergency situations and the federal govt uses military as basically a national guard presence to do it. It is being talked about, we are a socialist country now so anything is possible

Military and RCMP couldn't find two city kids on a dead end road, how are they going to stop interprovincal travel

 

[LennyR]

Just read this on Alberta Sledderz ! And we wonder why we have a negative perception problem !!

Hey guys, just a heads up, out in Corbin BC, the logging crews have had enough of the B.S. Between blocking off their ambulance vehicles they have out on plowed roads, meaning they had to shut down until these trucks were removed. Then there have been trucks parking in passing lanes on narrow plowed roads, to sledders bouncing off logging trucks front bumpers while driving too fast in sled around corners. One this morning was air lifted out in critical condition. I've been asked to put the message out after at least a dozen issues, that sledders are no longer allowed to access the backcountry along plowed logging roads. These guys have had enough drama, and they are trying to work, again a few ruin it for the rest just as everything else but please respect the signs put out on the main Corbin road marking as closed to sledders on active haul routes.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Just read this on Alberta Sledderz ! And we wonder why we have a negative perception problem !!

Hey guys, just a heads up, out in Corbin BC, the logging crews have had enough of the B.S. Between blocking off their ambulance vehicles they have out on plowed roads, meaning they had to shut down until these trucks were removed. Then there have been trucks parking in passing lanes on narrow plowed roads, to sledders bouncing off logging trucks front bumpers while driving too fast in sled around corners. One this morning was air lifted out in critical condition. I've been asked to put the message out after at least a dozen issues, that sledders are no longer allowed to access the backcountry along plowed logging roads. These guys have had enough drama, and they are trying to work, again a few ruin it for the rest just as everything else but please respect the signs put out on the main Corbin road marking as closed to sledders on active haul routes.

Radios solve much of these problems.

 

[ferniesnow]

Just read this on Alberta Sledderz ! And we wonder why we have a negative perception problem !!

Hey guys, just a heads up, out in Corbin BC, the logging crews have had enough of the B.S. Between blocking off their ambulance vehicles they have out on plowed roads, meaning they had to shut down until these trucks were removed. Then there have been trucks parking in passing lanes on narrow plowed roads, to sledders bouncing off logging trucks front bumpers while driving too fast in sled around corners. One this morning was air lifted out in critical condition. I've been asked to put the message out after at least a dozen issues, that sledders are no longer allowed to access the backcountry along plowed logging roads. These guys have had enough drama, and they are trying to work, again a few ruin it for the rest just as everything else but please respect the signs put out on the main Corbin road marking as closed to sledders on active haul routes.

So nothing has changed. It has been like that for years. Most sledders know that it is illegal to ride a sled on a plowed logging road. Most people travel the logging roads without a VHS radio and haven't got a clue about the protocol. Then, there are the "rednecks" who just don't give a dam and drive totally unconcerned on active logging roads (local boys, who should know better, wrecked a lot of gear north of Elkford a few years ago and they tried to blame the logging truck driver???). The Corbin area a couple years ago was a zoo. The loggers pulled logs to block the sledders trucks in and the winning was laughable.

Sledders are our own worse enemies. There is no entitlement so peeps have to get that into their brain. The years of "free-for-all" is over and I am on the side of the loggers trying to make a buck. The bush should be a place to be respectful and today, respect in the bush has gone the way of common sense. There is none.

 

[bobsledder]

Are some just to cheap to buy a radio?

 

[Dawizman]

Are some just to cheap to buy a radio?

I think it's a bit of too cheap, and a lot of ignorance.

 

[FernieHawk]

So nothing has changed. It has been like that for years. Most sledders know that it is illegal to ride a sled on a plowed logging road. Most people travel the logging roads without a VHS radio and haven't got a clue about the protocol. Then, there are the "rednecks" who just don't give a dam and drive totally unconcerned on active logging roads (local boys, who should know better, wrecked a lot of gear north of Elkford a few years ago and they tried to blame the logging truck driver???). The Corbin area a couple years ago was a zoo. The loggers pulled logs to block the sledders trucks in and the winning was laughable.

Sledders are our own worse enemies. There is no entitlement so peeps have to get that into their brain. The years of "free-for-all" is over and I am on the side of the loggers trying to make a buck. The bush should be a place to be respectful and today, respect in the bush has gone the way of common sense. There is none.

I took my wife out Harvey way for a sled ski day last Saturday. She very rarely travels with me on the Forest Service Roads in the winter but even she knows more than at least 7 drivers that we saw staged in the passing/pullout areas along Lodgepole FSR between km 28 and 38. Unprompted by me at all, she said, "should those trucks and trailers be parked there? Aren't those areas for trucks to pull over for oncoming passing?" I smiled at her and said, "yes, you're absolutely right".

Most of the trucks were towing $hitty little single open trailers and my guess is they are new to sledding and don't get the program. Ive been up that road hundreds of times and don't ever recall people staging from anywhere along that section of road...they were still 10-15 km from Harvey pass.

 

[d8grandpa]

The same radios we use for sledding work for logging channels, so should be zero problem with radio communication.

 

[ferniesnow]

Are some just to cheap to buy a radio?

Yes, but there are other concepts in play also. The yahoos that think their tax payer dollars paid for the roads think they can use them the way they like. Also, those same people think all the roads are on Crown Land not realizing that in BC a lot of land is owned by the logging companies. Those same people haven't got a clue about the agreements clubs have with the Government and the logging companies and that access is dependant on people following the rules. It isn't only "city folk" that think they are entitled to go willy-nilly up and down logging roads on private property. I love listening to the locals that use the line........."I've been using this road for 40 years and nobody is going to stop me!"

 

[moyiesledhead]

Time to start handing out maximum penalties. A few guys get 6 months in jail things will change pretty quick.


Snowmobiles

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3(3)A person must not operate a snowmobile on a forest service road if it appears that the road has been snowplowed, or that the road is otherwise fit for travel by motor vehicles other than snowmobiles.
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13(1) A person who contravenes section 3 (3), 5 (1), 6 (5), 10 (1) or 11 (1) or (3) commits an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding $5 000 or to imprisonment for not more than 6 months or to both.

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[LUCKY 7]

I just came out from Morrisey. I was amazed how many sledders use the plowed road from the staging area to the FSA booth. Wake the **** up people. yes the trail sucks until we get more snow but its the right thing to do. FSA works hard to keep these area's open for us and when I see the sled tracks on the plowed road when the trail is right beside it I shake my head.

 

[fynnigan]

Yes, but there are other concepts in play also. The yahoos that think their tax payer dollars paid for the roads think they can use them the way they like. Also, those same people think all the roads are on Crown Land not realizing that in BC a lot of land is owned by the logging companies. Those same people haven't got a clue about the agreements clubs have with the Government and the logging companies and that access is dependant on people following the rules. It isn't only "city folk" that think they are entitled to go willy-nilly up and down logging roads on private property. I love listening to the locals that use the line........."I've been using this road for 40 years and nobody is going to stop me!"

Not quite on the forest companies owning the land ,some in the lower mainland but very little in the interior. A lot of the the time the government pays the forest companies for road infrastructure through reduced stumpage which pays for the improvements or construction. TFLs are not ownership of the land base ,they are a licence to harvest the timber. Road use agreements with the crown dictate responsibility to fsr s

 

[bbtoys]

I can totally see them forcing cabins to be locked up. Maybe staging areas closed too. Since the majority of them are rec sites they already have the authority to shut them down.

if your backcountry cabin is classed as an emergency shelter which all of ours are, they can not be lock but they can shut grooming down for sure.

 

[ferniesnow]

Not quite on the forest companies owning the land ,some in the lower mainland but very little in the interior. A lot of the the time the government pays the forest companies for road infrastructure through reduced stumpage which pays for the improvements or construction. TFLs are not ownership of the land base ,they are a licence to harvest the timber. Road use agreements with the crown dictate responsibility to fsr s

I was speaking about the eastern Koots and probably should have noted that.

 

[snopro]

I took my wife out Harvey way for a sled ski day last Saturday. She very rarely travels with me on the Forest Service Roads in the winter but even she knows more than at least 7 drivers that we saw staged in the passing/pullout areas along Lodgepole FSR between km 28 and 38. Unprompted by me at all, she said, "should those trucks and trailers be parked there? Aren't those areas for trucks to pull over for oncoming passing?" I smiled at her and said, "yes, you're absolutely right".

Most of the trucks were towing $hitty little single open trailers and my guess is they are new to sledding and don't get the program. Ive been up that road hundreds of times and don't ever recall people staging from anywhere along that section of road...they were still 10-15 km from Harvey pass.

If they had BC plates then most likely locals. In my experience a lot of the locals drive older trucks and old open place trailers. Not that they need an $80g trucks and $20g trailer like out of province riders who travel great distances to get to these play areas. The locals get by fine with older stuff.

 

[catrutt]

They should make a trail you can actually ride on then... it's only about 200 meters should be no big deal.What about all the guys who park on the road should they fly to the trail?

I just came out from Morrisey. I was amazed how many sledders use the plowed road from the staging area to the FSA booth. Wake the **** up people. yes the trail sucks until we get more snow but its the right thing to do. FSA works hard to keep these area's open for us and when I see the sled tracks on the plowed road when the trail is right beside it I shake my head.

 

[dpolacik]

Just read this on Alberta Sledderz ! And we wonder why we have a negative perception problem !!

Hey guys, just a heads up, out in Corbin BC, the logging crews have had enough of the B.S. Between blocking off their ambulance vehicles they have out on plowed roads, meaning they had to shut down until these trucks were removed. Then there have been trucks parking in passing lanes on narrow plowed roads, to sledders bouncing off logging trucks front bumpers while driving too fast in sled around corners. One this morning was air lifted out in critical condition. I've been asked to put the message out after at least a dozen issues, that sledders are no longer allowed to access the backcountry along plowed logging roads. These guys have had enough drama, and they are trying to work, again a few ruin it for the rest just as everything else but please respect the signs put out on the main Corbin road marking as closed to sledders on active haul routes.

So nothing has changed. It has been like that for years. Most sledders know that it is illegal to ride a sled on a plowed logging road. Most people travel the logging roads without a VHS radio and haven't got a clue about the protocol. Then, there are the "rednecks" who just don't give a dam and drive totally unconcerned on active logging roads (local boys, who should know better, wrecked a lot of gear north of Elkford a few years ago and they tried to blame the logging truck driver???). The Corbin area a couple years ago was a zoo. The loggers pulled logs to block the sledders trucks in and the winning was laughable.

Sledders are our own worse enemies. There is no entitlement so peeps have to get that into their brain. The years of "free-for-all" is over and I am on the side of the loggers trying to make a buck. The bush should be a place to be respectful and today, respect in the bush has gone the way of common sense. There is none.

I took my wife out Harvey way for a sled ski day last Saturday. She very rarely travels with me on the Forest Service Roads in the winter but even she knows more than at least 7 drivers that we saw staged in the passing/pullout areas along Lodgepole FSR between km 28 and 38. Unprompted by me at all, she said, "should those trucks and trailers be parked there? Aren't those areas for trucks to pull over for oncoming passing?" I smiled at her and said, "yes, you're absolutely right".

Most of the trucks were towing $hitty little single open trailers and my guess is they are new to sledding and don't get the program. Ive been up that road hundreds of times and don't ever recall people staging from anywhere along that section of road...they were still 10-15 km from Harvey pass.

Yes, but there are other concepts in play also. The yahoos that think their tax payer dollars paid for the roads think they can use them the way they like. Also, those same people think all the roads are on Crown Land not realizing that in BC a lot of land is owned by the logging companies. Those same people haven't got a clue about the agreements clubs have with the Government and the logging companies and that access is dependant on people following the rules. It isn't only "city folk" that think they are entitled to go willy-nilly up and down logging roads on private property. I love listening to the locals that use the line........."I've been using this road for 40 years and nobody is going to stop me!"

Oh the memories of low bedding days in the area........... so much stress relief pulling trucks out of the way or pushing!! Corbin has always been the worst.

It really is sad someone had to learn the hard way and another guy doing his job will be straining to look farther around every corner!