Axys 174 vs 165 G4

[tex78]

So is Lund

sent while drinking tea's

 

[Lund]

So is Lund

sent while drinking tea's

No worries Jeff, if this dude knew what i use to do and done for BRP, he would clam up. He has no clue.
Glad to hear Summitric's RT was great. I least i know some time wasn't wasted.

BTW, lets not ruin the OP thread, lets get back on track. Axys vs G4

 

[rightsideup]

Yeah I started this off by defending a 900 cat...now back to pumping up both the doo and poo for 2017...LOL

 

[1100]

Had two different RT 1000s. Loved them both. Wish the 850 was putting out those torque numbers.

 

[CUSO]

... AND anything that was bigger than an 899 was generally unreliable without substantial weight gain. I.E. beefing up etc.

it's a fact. at this point still, reliability in a 2 cyl 2 stroke goes down when the displacement goes up.

the 05/06 big bore two strokes disappeared for a good reason. Part of it was the increase of weight over the 800's and then the 800's gained hp.

 

[snopro]

Thanks, bud... yup, helps being a mechanic, but that old RT sure ran hard.....

And I thought it was the superior set up from our shop that made yours run good all this time?

 

[catalac]

the 05/06 big bore two strokes disappeared for a good reason. Part of it was the increase of weight over the 800's and then the 800's gained hp.

I was under impression the 900 and 1000 cat motors were no where near compliant for the implemented emissions regulations, hence the discontinuation. I had a few 900s and one 1000 all were great motors, if the lay down 1000 had made it into the proclimb id still be a cat rider.

 

[Teth-Air]

This is ridiculous. Has no one ever heard of adjusting a limiter strap. My t3 can be adjusted to keep
its skis in the snow all day or carry them to the point it loops out on the steep part of the hill.

It is surprising that so many guys will not play with their suspension to make it work. Either it works out of the box or it gets the label "junk".
I get some flack for tweaking this and that when we go riding but to make a sled perform to it's maximum is very satisfying.

 

[rightsideup]

It is surprising that so many guys will not play with their suspension to make it work. Either it works out of the box or it gets the label "junk".
I get some flack for tweaking this and that when we go riding but to make a sled perform to it's maximum is very satisfying.

Yeah that's interesting even the owners manuel is quite thorough on some brands on suspension adjustment and probably never gets read.

 

[CanDoo]

Absolutely YES- maybe

You going Johnny?
Decided to switch teams>?

 

[rightsideup]

I was under impression the 900 and 1000 cat motors were no where near compliant for the implemented emissions regulations, hence the discontinuation. I had a few 900s and one 1000 all were great motors, if the lay down 1000 had made it into the proclimb id still be a cat rider.

that's hard to say the current cat 800 is dirty and most of the sales lost to the 900 and 1000 owners were to the 800 when kitty pumped up the hp

 

[ippielb]

So I have a question, looking at the track approach angles of the big three. Why did skidoo make the track approach angle so steep? Doesn that hurt deep powder performance? The 850 has a pretty rank steep approach angle. Not bashing by any means, just curious about why skidoo went this way.

 

[skegpro]

https://www.snowtechmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/summitx3_side.jpg
http://www.oildepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/polaris-rmk-pro-800-2016-e1442261436459.jpg
http://www.snowest.com/Images/Articles/4048/M8000MountainCat_162_Grn_2017.jpg_1600.jpg
So I have a question, looking at the track approach angles of the big three. Why did skidoo make the track approach angle so steep? Doesn that hurt deep powder performance? The 850 has a pretty rank steep approach angle. Not bashing by any means, just curious about why skidoo went this way.

Cause once the rear suspension collapses it is a very shallow angle.

Lol jk

 

[kidinloghouse]

https://www.snowtechmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/summitx3_side.jpg
http://www.oildepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/polaris-rmk-pro-800-2016-e1442261436459.jpg
http://www.snowest.com/Images/Articles/4048/M8000MountainCat_162_Grn_2017.jpg_1600.jpg
So I have a question, looking at the track approach angles of the big three. Why did skidoo make the track approach angle so steep? Doesn that hurt deep powder performance? The 850 has a pretty rank steep approach angle. Not bashing by any means, just curious about why skidoo went this way.

I do not know why doo still runs the summits like that. the utility sleds have a rail cap very similar to toms wedges and an anti stab set up. i installed that setup on my 154 freeride and it helped alot with trenching and ski lift, it keeps the front end down better like this with a t3 driveshaft and the 3" than it did with the stock setup.

 

[CUSO]

My theory is that you get more ski weight on the lower attack angles, but the rider is more back on the chassis. I think the front compresses a bit when you pin it, so it works the same. Doo's tend tto wheelie more, but you are further forward.
Look where your feet are on the Doo compared to the other 2. Everyone has their own theory, Just because LHF's angle is the lowest on earth, doesn't mean it's the best.

https://www.snowtechmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/summitx3_side.jpg
http://www.oildepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/polaris-rmk-pro-800-2016-e1442261436459.jpg
http://www.snowest.com/Images/Articles/4048/M8000MountainCat_162_Grn_2017.jpg_1600.jpg
So I have a question, looking at the track approach angles of the big three. Why did skidoo make the track approach angle so steep? Doesn that hurt deep powder performance? The 850 has a pretty rank steep approach angle. Not bashing by any means, just curious about why skidoo went this way.

 

[turboetech]

The fact of the matter is mountain riders are only a very small fraction of the snowmobiling industry.... if you look to the east yes way east the main snowmobiling industry is trail riding..... Ontario Quebec etc....these sleds are build and designed for the trails..... enough pepps out west wanted a mountain sled so they thru a long track under their trail sleds.... now we need to perfect the attack angles and suspensions to your specific style of mountain riding......

 

[Jorgy]

Wow, wow and wow again. Some people sure are biased to the iron they ride......both sides of the fence.


Welcome to Ski-Doo and Mud. Now get back in your kitty cat forum before you get exiled for posting negatively about ski-doo

 

[snochuk]

Wow, wow and wow again. Some people sure are biased to the iron they ride......both sides of the fence.


Welcome to Ski-Doo and Mud. Now get back in your kitty cat forum before you get exiled for posting negatively about ski-doo

Haha!
I actually have an 850 on order and have not never ever owned a cat.

 

[Rulonjj]

https://www.snowtechmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/summitx3_side.jpg
http://www.oildepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/polaris-rmk-pro-800-2016-e1442261436459.jpg
http://www.snowest.com/Images/Articles/4048/M8000MountainCat_162_Grn_2017.jpg_1600.jpg
So I have a question, looking at the track approach angles of the big three. Why did skidoo make the track approach angle so steep? Doesn that hurt deep powder performance? The 850 has a pretty rank steep approach angle. Not bashing by any means, just curious about why skidoo went this way.

In real life, the attack angle on the skidoo is much shallower. Doo always makes them look steep in the studio pics.

 

[ippielb]

In real life, the attack angle on the skidoo is much shallower. Doo always makes them look steep in the studio pics.

One thing I did notice is that the skidoo looks to have the most clearance, between the running boards/panels and the snow. That might work to its advantage. I'm trying to go for the same thing on my snopro mod sled. Get it up off the snow so even if it does trench a bit it will have more clearance to suffice, since I have a bad attack angle.


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