Are we being painted a picture that’s not realistic

[brianm]

Hey guys, so with all the going on in Ottawa and across Canada . I Find myself asking that question more and more. hard to put into words but I’ll try to explain… so we dump on the cbc / Trudeau/ liberals / mandates ect are we right? When I see absolutely nothing change after all of this I can’t help but ask is this what Canada actually wants? Personally I look at YouTube videos like the rebel ect .. here and some other sources that are of my mind set that paint a picture of our liking. I would imagine the other side has the exact same thing going on and watching/ reading about what they agree with. So, all what we read/ view ( right wing we’ll say) isn’t what Canadians want as a whole population? Thoughts? I mean this twat is in there for a second term, seams he’s unstoppable especially teamed up with the ndp . The vote today is a perfect example. In a democratic system the mass of the population decides, mabey most Canadians want mandates and Trudeau / don’t care about freedom convoy ? Sure seams that way to me . If Canadians as a whole want that garbage I mean what’s the point of it all , it doesn’t matter it’s a democracy right. You can protest but if the masses don’t support it your done . Thoughts? . I believe what I believe that’s not going to change but I felt like the freedom convoy in my view represented the majority of Canadians which obviously isn’t the case . Geez long winded post lol . Just looking for thoughts with an open mind .

 

[SUMMIT TREE]

Yes your on point. We are not only fighting the liberals, we are also fighting a large portion of the population who, are for one reason or another, onside with the government. Until we get them onside with us, were pissing up a rope trying to effect change

 

[SUMMIT TREE]

I believe the majority of those onside with the government are so, because of cognitive dissidence. They have had their thoughts programmed into them thru very careful methods and non stop propaganda is a big part of it. I personally believe to some degree the Vaccine itself has altered peoples brain functions, to what degree who knows.

 

[brianm]

I felt proud to be a Canadian for the first time in a long time with the freedom convoy and all the support it got or so I thought. Watching people get punched and kicked and trampled by horses in Canada was an eye opener for me .

 

[Stg2Suby]

The harsh reality may be that the majority of Canadians, at least as represented in our political system, may lean to the left. I don't think we're going to get them "onside" with us. Only option for the right may be to consolidate somehow and carve out our own country. No small feat to be sure.

 

[sirkdev]

Yes your on point. We are not only fighting the liberals, we are also fighting a large portion of the population who, are for one reason or another, onside with the government. Until we get them onside with us, were pissing up a rope trying to effect change

I agree pick a forum besides this one and ask what people are thinking, the response is staggering some people think that non vax renegade truckers are trying to take over the government! Take time start the conversation, going to have to plant the seed in lots, don't argue make them think. There are way to many MSM watchers and believers.

 

[ABMax24]

Most Canadians sit in the middle, NDP on the far left, Conservatives on the right, the Liberals used to sit in the center but then went left, and now are a mix of everything on the spectrum from fascism, to kleptocracy, to plutocracy.

Division has won, while we were fighting left vs right, a dictator moved in and used division to secure his position.

 

[ABMax24]

I agree pick a forum besides this one and ask what people are thinking, the response is staggering some people think that non vax renegade truckers are trying to take over the government!

Someone needs to go find the letter that someone sent the government on behalf of the Freedom Convoy and post it, because that's exactly how that letter reads.

That letter did far more damage than good, IMO it turned a well meaning peaceful protest into what could easily be misconstrued as a terrorist act that required severe intervention.

 

[sledneck__11]

Had my grandmother over last nignt snd she was going off about the nasty blockade and protest and how a women through her bike into a police horse, shes 86. Ten mins later after i showed her some videos and the women with the walker(not a bike) i could see her eyes were opened a bit she said she never seen any of that on the news i said well thats cause the news is owned by the liberals i may have won one belaver over. No point in arguing with peoples whos heads are in the sand have your say and move on some people will never see but some will

 

[BILTIT]

MSM, number 1 enemy of the people.

 

[Flapjack]

I believe the majority of those onside with the government are so, because of cognitive dissidence. They have had their thoughts programmed into them thru very careful methods and non stop propaganda is a big part of it. I personally believe to some degree the Vaccine itself has altered peoples brain functions, to what degree who knows.

About 85% of the population thinks social media is a poor source of news.

 

[Flapjack]

MSM, number 1 enemy of the people.

Hey now, that's a hitler/trump quote

 

[brianm]

Had my grandmother over last nignt snd she was going off about the nasty blockade and protest and how a women through her bike into a police horse, shes 86. Ten mins later after i showed her some videos and the women with the walker(not a bike) i could see her eyes were opened a bit she said she never seen any of that on the news i said well thats cause the news is owned by the liberals i may have won one belaver over. No point in arguing with peoples whos heads are in the sand have your say and move on some people will never see but some will

So that’s a good example of what I am thinking here . Are there videos from the other side that we don’t see that would discredit our view? I mean there must be ? How can that twat get away with what he’s done don’t mind he’s in there for a second term. Is the rest of the population that stupid or are we being lead astray and not seeing the whole picture?

 

[JayT]

About 85% of the population thinks social media is a poor source of news.

So that would mean they watch mainstream media, no? Ironically enough that's about the percentage of people that are vaccinated in this country...

 

[Stg2Suby]

some people think that non vax renegade truckers are trying to take over the government!

Freedom Convoy did state they were going to stay until the Libs stepped down. I don't think they seriously meant this, nor did it represent the core ideal of the movement. Nonetheless it was played up by the left and bit them in the end.

 

[sirkdev]

I talked to my parents in AZ, after I sent them videos and links they were pissed right off, why isn't the news reporting this they say? Lots of things have changed in the past few weeks I said.. you are going to be shocked when you get home. IMO Fox has been the only one who has portrayed what i actually going on.

 

[Jorg Jorgenson]

Had my grandmother over last nignt snd she was going off about the nasty blockade and protest and how a women through her bike into a police horse, shes 86. Ten mins later after i showed her some videos and the women with the walker(not a bike) i could see her eyes were opened a bit she said she never seen any of that on the news i said well thats cause the news is owned by the liberals i may have won one belaver over. No point in arguing with peoples whos heads are in the sand have your say and move on some people will never see but some will

Had a similar interaction with my wife’s grandparents. They were dumping on the convoy and how it was doing so much harm for so many innocent people and their views were unrealistic etc etc. showed them the instagram Freedom Convoy 2022 page with the videos of Ottawa with the Canadian pride and celebrations and they were instantly changed. I agree, media and propaganda plays a huge part.

 

[Jorg Jorgenson]

I believe the majority of those onside with the government are so, because of cognitive dissidence. They have had their thoughts programmed into them thru very careful methods and non stop propaganda is a big part of it. I personally believe to some degree the Vaccine itself has altered peoples brain functions, to what degree who knows.

I’ll have to disagree with you on this one. Because these vaccines were given out to people all over the globe, all with different viewpoints and governments with varying beliefs. So you think they altered the chemical ingredients per country? Plus those who I know who got vax’d do not have any varying viewpoints from before. My liberal ‘friends’ are still liberal, and my conservative friends are still very much so conservative.

But to each their own. I have no scientific facts to back up my beliefs

 

[JayT]

I’ll have to disagree with you on this one. Because these vaccines were given out to people all over the globe, all with different viewpoints and governments with varying beliefs. So you think they altered the chemical ingredients per country? Plus those who I know who got vax’d do not have any varying viewpoints from before. My liberal ‘friends’ are still liberal, and my conservative friends are still very much so conservative.

But to each their own. I have no scientific facts to back up my beliefs

There's actually proof to show that they altered the ingredients in different states. I'm quite sure they can do it in different countries

 

[The big greasy]

Hey now, that's a hitler/trump quote

No it's the truth.