Anyone working on big inch pipelines in B.C. or Alberta

[Cyle]

It’s like I said in a earlier post ? Drivers and operators are two completely different people .
I good operator will adapt to task at hand with no problem whatsoever.
I have had lots of so called operators show up and say , I have never built something like this ?
I just tell them it’s just moving material and if you can operate I will give you the scope of the project and it will all work out .
Most don’t give good operators the credit they deserve?
Can show up on time ?
Can operate anything?
Look after the equipment they operate ?
Pass a drug test?
Not a drunk ?

I would disagree. I wouldn't let a guy with 30 years oilfield operating experience run my equipment on a residential dig thinking they know what they are doing, it's a lot more then moving dirt. One wrong swing could cost a few hundred thousand dollars putting a counterweight or boom into a house, power line, etc and chances are they aren't use to work in that tight of quarters. These stupid 25' lots all it takes is a few seconds of not being on the ball and it's game over. Or hitting utilities. Reading survey pins, plot plan, etc. It's amazing how many guys can't do that. Just because you know how to move dirt, in many cases the job is a lot more then that.

 

[Cyle]

Well if this economy every turns around and you get swamped keep me in mind lol no but seriously

I will if I ever decide to expand. I am really back and forth on it. Keep contemplating buying bigger machine 300-400 and doing the big apartment digs, or selling the 210 and just doing smaller jobs like foundation repairs, etc with the mini, they pay really well.
My 210 until the last 2 weeks didn't move since end of April.

 

[Hoehand79]

Ya dirt placement and guessing how much to store for backfill is a major and its funny how many guys don't make wide notches for the cribbers...definitely is technical no doubt

 

[pfi572]

I would disagree. I wouldn't let a guy with 30 years oilfield operating experience run my equipment on a residential dig thinking they know what they are doing, it's a lot more then moving dirt. One wrong swing could cost a few hundred thousand dollars putting a counterweight or boom into a house, power line, etc and chances are they aren't use to work in that tight of quarters. These stupid 25' lots all it takes is a few seconds of not being on the ball and it's game over. Or hitting utilities. Reading survey pins, plot plan, etc. It's amazing how many guys can't do that. Just because you know how to move dirt, in many cases the job is a lot more then that.

This my my point !!
What your doing is nothing special if you are a good operator .
Watching your surroundings is all part of it .
I have done it all as well and have no problem switching to anything that is required as that’s experience .

 

[ABMax24]

Nope, hardly any locals are working on the cgl project, majority are out of towners. Even native companies are getting squeezed because of not being union. Bug joke if you ask me. I had a brand new excavator lined up to go out but because we aren't union we were denied. My price was better and my operator had more experience and newer machine but because we aren't union we got sent home.

What you guys need to do is raise a stink with the local politicians and demand more locals be employed. Have a look at what the mayor of Fort St John Lori Ackerman has done. She gets involved and forces locals to be hired where possible.

On a project of that scale there will always be skilled labor from out of town brought in, but there is no reason that locals can't fill at least some of the labor or apprentice positions, or even journeyman positions if qualified persons exist.

It's a big part of winning local support for these projects, opponents quiet down quickly when their friends and family are earning a living from working on these projects.

 

[Caper11]

They also bought atleast 12 sxs from ryders that I know of...this job is going to a big boost for the local economy and support hundreds of families for a couple yrs atleast so im fortunate to be on this project thats for sure...had to post a picture what I did yesterday lol//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200920/57973dff2dc29fa30e1862271401b5d6.jpg

Nice work!
Is that the RR crossing east of the mill?


BTW Midwest is doing a excellent job on the construction of the TMX. The line is 500 yards from my house.

 

[Hoehand79]

Nice work!
Is that the RR crossing east of the mill?


BTW Midwest is doing a excellent job on the construction of the TMX. The line is 500 yards from my house.

Why yes it is good eye!

 

[Luke The Drifter]

I laugh when I hear reports of TMX being "on schedule and on budget". Every single person I've talked to that is working on that project is beating their heads against the wall with Trans Mountain. No one knows who's doing what, can't get permits approved, equipment requirements go from " for this section we need 50 pieces of this sized/style of iron, no wait 35, no 80, nope just 25 now", on and on. WorksafeBC gets involved and makes things even worse with their red tape. A guy doesn't want to put a tin foil hat on but its almost like theres an internal plot to stall this project for as long as possible by red tape.
Multiple equipment rental outfits have had multiple pieces of equipment, sent out to work only to be sent back (with no rental hours put on) because Trans Mountain "aren't ready for the contractors". Even though they were told to be ready to hit the ground running this spring/summer. Now they're being told to run a poor-boy operation for the winter and maybe by next spring they can get going on mainline. It's not SA Energy's fault or Ledcor's. It comes down to Trans Mountain being completely incompetent. Easiest way to f*ck up a project of any sort, let the government try to manage it...

 

[Hoehand79]

Ya its a slow go alright but like the saying goes chaos is cash!

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I laugh when I hear reports of TMX being "on schedule and on budget". Every single person I've talked to that is working on that project is beating their heads against the wall with Trans Mountain. No one knows who's doing what, can't get permits approved, equipment requirements go from " for this section we need 50 pieces of this sized/style of iron, no wait 35, no 80, nope just 25 now", on and on. WorksafeBC gets involved and makes things even worse with their red tape. A guy doesn't want to put a tin foil hat on but its almost like theres an internal plot to stall this project for as long as possible by red tape.
Multiple equipment rental outfits have had multiple pieces of equipment, sent out to work only to be sent back (with no rental hours put on) because Trans Mountain "aren't ready for the contractors". Even though they were told to be ready to hit the ground running this spring/summer. Now they're being told to run a poor-boy operation for the winter and maybe by next spring they can get going on mainline. It's not SA Energy's fault or Ledcor's. It comes down to Trans Mountain being completely incompetent. Easiest way to f*ck up a project of any sort, let the government try to manage it...

its funny how many pieces of equipment I see go through town to kitimat only to be seen the next day going the other direction. Talked to a guy at the card lock one day, moved the same piece 3 times

 

[S.W.A.T.]

I laugh when I hear reports of TMX being "on schedule and on budget". Every single person I've talked to that is working on that project is beating their heads against the wall with Trans Mountain. No one knows who's doing what, can't get permits approved, equipment requirements go from " for this section we need 50 pieces of this sized/style of iron, no wait 35, no 80, nope just 25 now", on and on. WorksafeBC gets involved and makes things even worse with their red tape. A guy doesn't want to put a tin foil hat on but its almost like theres an internal plot to stall this project for as long as possible by red tape.
Multiple equipment rental outfits have had multiple pieces of equipment, sent out to work only to be sent back (with no rental hours put on) because Trans Mountain "aren't ready for the contractors". Even though they were told to be ready to hit the ground running this spring/summer. Now they're being told to run a poor-boy operation for the winter and maybe by next spring they can get going on mainline. It's not SA Energy's fault or Ledcor's. It comes down to Trans Mountain being completely incompetent. Easiest way to f*ck up a project of any sort, let the government try to manage it...

its funny how many pieces of equipment I see go through town to kitimat only to be seen the next day going the other direction. Talked to a guy at the card lock one day, moved the same piece 3 times

 

[Bnorth]

I laugh when I hear reports of TMX being "on schedule and on budget". Every single person I've talked to that is working on that project is beating their heads against the wall with Trans Mountain. No one knows who's doing what, can't get permits approved, equipment requirements go from " for this section we need 50 pieces of this sized/style of iron, no wait 35, no 80, nope just 25 now", on and on. WorksafeBC gets involved and makes things even worse with their red tape. A guy doesn't want to put a tin foil hat on but its almost like theres an internal plot to stall this project for as long as possible by red tape.
Multiple equipment rental outfits have had multiple pieces of equipment, sent out to work only to be sent back (with no rental hours put on) because Trans Mountain "aren't ready for the contractors". Even though they were told to be ready to hit the ground running this spring/summer. Now they're being told to run a poor-boy operation for the winter and maybe by next spring they can get going on mainline. It's not SA Energy's fault or Ledcor's. It comes down to Trans Mountain being completely incompetent. Easiest way to f*ck up a project of any sort, let the government try to manage it...

It's easy to be on schedule and budget when the budget and timetable keep being officially amended. There was a photo-op near Edmonton with some political mucky mucks so they just threw some pipe in a ditch for the pic and then pulled it back out.

 

[ABMax24]

Big projects rarely go as originally planned, behind schedule and overbudget seems to be the reality of them these days. The seem to take on a life of their own. Having the government involved in transmountain certainly won't help this.

Look at the new Grande Prairie hospital, first announced in 2007, it broke ground in 2011 and was supposed to be completed in 2015 at a cost of $319 million. In June the hospital was announced "complete" at a cost of $850 million, yet it will still be another year before it accepts its first patient.