Longhairfreak
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I could climb that hill on 10 beer.so are you insinuating that all the sledders slamming into one another were drunk? sure hope not looks more like the filmers to me.
I could climb that hill on 10 beer.so are you insinuating that all the sledders slamming into one another were drunk? sure hope not looks more like the filmers to me.
I am not a fan of alcohol on the hill at all but every cabin garbage cans overflowing every day. There is a time and place but even 1 beer gets most on the road to bulletproof . Wonderfull thought is news saying 1 in 33 vehicles being driven in alberta are impaired so lets do it on sleds too.
When I was younger, much younger, I was at the lake sledding with some friends. We stopped at "fernando's" a colombian neighbour out there. We had some tequila, some beer, and some other quick shots.
Being young, stupid and all we went for a rip in the back of his property. There was a creek, which I forgot about and wanted to bust a drift on the other side. I had a little buzz going on, nothing too crazy... It was enough to forget about the hazards and I ripped across the field, slamming into the opposing creek edge drop off and going over the bars... Sled was a mess, and so was I. I couldn't walk very well for about a week.
Ever since then I said to myself "no more drinking and sledding"
I started sledding in the mountains a few years later, and still don't take any alcohol up with me, Some friends that started coming up to the mountains with us a few years later, were stuffing their seats full with beer, one guy bough a cat just because the seat could be hollowed out to carry a 15 pack. I refused to ride with them.
There are some guys that come up and take a few beers with them, I don't say anything. I will even accept the odd beer on the hill at lunch if someone offers..
When you see guys with the fake jerry cans, or even worse, they fill a jerry can with liquor, that's getting a little overboard.
I prefer to have a beer at the truck after loading up my sled... It just tastes so much better after a long day's ride.
All in moderation folks.
Here is a clip of some jerrycan drinkers..partying it up during the carnage at sugarbowl at a BIS.
Unedit carnage at the sugar bowl - YouTube
point is, why should it be viewed any different...you are in charge of a vehicle that may directly cause harm to others. whether getting paid, or paying to do it....does it make it any less reprehensible when you crash into a child after a few beers on your sled than if you were driving a bus? I can understand many would say "yes", but why?
If you read my post, I didn't insinuate. I actually had 4 friends involved in that mess that day. Of course the filmers.
I know what you're saying, and a lot of the guys I ride with do the same. what I'm getting at is that any alcohol in your system after an incident, whether you live or die from it, is another reason to portray us all in the same light. not to mention finding fault when there is any litigation resulting from said incident. four words I don't want included in any accident I may be involved in are "alcohol was a factor". you know, and I know, many people that function well on 2 or 3 beers, but when they are examining a corpse or someone severely injured, our testimony that Joe can handle his liquor is meaningless. all that will be reported is that Joe was drinking.I agree with you there, but what I was talking about was literally one or two beer. If you hit someone fully intoxicated then by all means release the hounds and may god be with you cuz that said intoxicated person deserves the utmost worst punishment, especially if there's harm to others. I lost family members due to intoxicated idiots and that's changed my life in many ways. It all comes back to being responsible. As stated above, no one will be intoxicated after one beer, hell I know guys that can pound back a 24 and no one would be the wiser. It seems in today's day in age that having a sociable with your buds on vacation is the thing to do. I enjoy sipping a cold one looking out over the views the mountains portray. I do not condone the abuse of alcohol tho. That's what I'm tryin to get at. There's a line between being hammered and having a beer or two with friends, albeit, it's probably a very fine line but it's still there.
I know what you're saying, and a lot of the guys I ride with do the same. what I'm getting at is that any alcohol in your system after an incident, whether you live or die from it, is another reason to portray us all in the same light. not to mention finding fault when there is any litigation resulting from said incident. four words I don't want included in any accident I may be involved in are "alcohol was a factor". you know, and I know, many people that function well on 2 or 3 beers, but when they are examining a corpse or someone severely injured, our testimony that Joe can handle his liquor is meaningless. all that will be reported is that Joe was drinking.
and we both know the alcohol may not even have anything to do with an accident. but it's simple presence just doesn't look good on anyone involved.i think we are close to the same page, T can't see a beer will haveyou slamming into anyone else. a few, yes. how about a few red bull, a bit of cold medication and a few coffee, were does it end. moderation is what counts.
around families and such i can leave the beer in the bag and drink a pop or water, and will have extra if knowing that is who i'll be riding with. all relavent. seen the drunks on the hills, i just leave the area.
and we both know the alcohol may not even have anything to do with an accident. but it's simple presence just doesn't look good on anyone involved.
I will have a shot of butter ripple, or root beer schnapps if it's being passed, I would be in the same boat as anyone else.
I think T has a pretty good point here but maybe saying it a little different... You are taking the same risk as you would be drinking beer than driving home.. Sure you might get there safe but if something happens.... Regardless how big or small then it is a big deal... For you...for the person or persons you injured and for the sport in general! Moderation may end up being your demise in a courtroom! Not going to deny I have a pop or two on the hill either but defiantly something to keep in the back of your mind before you do!
If the police got involved absolutely it would be... If you have alcohol in your system at all and there is a collision or something it defiantly comes into play.... I
If I remember correctly I'm pretty sure insurance company's can pull the plug on you at that point......