a little unnerving

[Clode]

I don't see the big issue, have your sled registered, don't get totally wasted, and maybe some stolen sleds will be found at these check stops !!!

 

[96sherm]

Quite frankly, I welcome LEO presence...it should eliminate the idiots who feel the need to get hammered on the hill and perhaps get rid of some stupid people. I'm all for whoever wants to make the experience safer (from stupid people) and more fun!!!

 

[0neoldfart]

Quite frankly, I welcome LEO presence...it should eliminate the idiots who feel the need to get hammered on the hill and perhaps get rid of some stupid people. I'm all for whoever wants to make the experience safer (from stupid people) and more fun!!!

This shouldn't bother anyone who isn't breaking the law. I've no problem taking a minute to prove insurance & registration, and impared riders (whether on drugs or alcohol) shouldn't be riding and endangering themselves or others. If the checks result in recovered stolen goods (and sleds, trailers, etc are a hot commodity every year), I feel that locking up a few clowns in the "Crowbar Hilton" can't be a bad thing. Ask anyone who's had thier sled / truck / trailer or gear stolen, pretty sure they would agree.
I'm not aware of any posted speed limits on any alpine, but there should be one on the trails. Close calls have become far too common in recent years (likely due to increased numbers) - sometimes common sense isn't that common.

 

[Trashy]

If the RC's have the man power to put cops on the hills, trails, and in staging area's. I gladly welcome it!!!
It would be nice to get the tards off the hills, and maybe then our recreational sports would get bad media. On long weekends or sanctioned events.
I think it would also be better, if the were in plain clothes and unmarked sleds/quads.

 

[polaris011]

ontario thought it would be a great idea as well to have cops control there sledding trails now the speed limit over the last 10 years have dropped from no speed limits to a maximum of 50 km/h they sit and do radar and give out tickets ... like someone said its not about making it safer the cops dont do anythign extra that in the end doesnt fill there quota ... so you guys that are pro little fat pigs say good bye to one of the last of our freedoms that we have of getting away from the world and just riding how we want ... it will start with a limit on the trail then... they will start telling us what hills we can climb and what ones we cant ...it will turn into a day at the fricken water slide where there is a cop sitting at the bottom of the hill telling us when we can climb and where .... some of you wont believe this but take a look around the rest of everything we do it is way over policed and the fines are so large we have no choice.... not to mention if you end up getting a ticket it going to show on an abstract and poof there goes our insurance rate another excuse for them to rape me analy ... i hate cops they are never there when you need and i am sure as heck i will never need them on the hill ...in town if somehting gets stolen where they should be thats great but on the hill never stay off and out of our playground

 

[LBZ]

Seeing the police in the back country would no absolutely no difference to my life what so ever. I go to the hills to ride not to drink, my sled is registered and insured so no issue there. Can't think of any reason that it would bother me.

X2.
Cops on ski hills isn't something new either. Been going on for 25 years now. Maybe longer. Only people bitchin are those breaking the law. It has nothing to do with targeting people trying to have a good time, it's about keeping the whole area/scene safe as a whole for EVERYONE!! Too many asstractors thinking only about themselves with total disregard for anyone else out there these days.

 

[struglin]

ontario thought it would be a great idea as well to have cops control there sledding trails now the speed limit over the last 10 years have dropped from no speed limits to a maximum of 50 km/h they sit and do radar and give out tickets ... like someone said its not about making it safer the cops dont do anythign extra that in the end doesnt fill there quota ... so you guys that are pro little fat pigs say good bye to one of the last of our freedoms that we have of getting away from the world and just riding how we want ... it will start with a limit on the trail then... they will start telling us what hills we can climb and what ones we cant ...it will turn into a day at the fricken water slide where there is a cop sitting at the bottom of the hill telling us when we can climb and where .... some of you wont believe this but take a look around the rest of everything we do it is way over policed and the fines are so large we have no choice.... not to mention if you end up getting a ticket it going to show on an abstract and poof there goes our insurance rate another excuse for them to rape me analy ... i hate cops they are never there when you need and i am sure as heck i will never need them on the hill ...in town if somehting gets stolen where they should be thats great but on the hill never stay off and out of our playground

i dont hate cops as theyre a essential part of our society however i couldnt agree with you more when it comes to policing the backcountry if they wanna hang out in staging areas great stop drunk drivers potentially recover stolen goods cool but i dont need them on top of the mountain questioning my riding period

 

[Wilk INStheWEST]

X2.
Cops on ski hills isn't something new either. Been going on for 25 years now. Maybe longer. Only people bitchin are those breaking the law. It has nothing to do with targeting people trying to have a good time, it's about keeping the whole area/scene safe as a whole for EVERYONE!! Too many asstractors thinking only about themselves with total disregard for anyone else out there these days.

What exactly were the cops policing on the ski hill? What could happen on a ski hill that would require a police officer, instead of just a Ski Patrol? There are rules on hills, and if those are broken, the patrol has the right to take the violators pass, and get them off the hill, making it safer for everyone else.

 

[moyiesledhead]

i didnt enen know you needed registration i carry insurance on my sled always have but have never registered a sled before is this a requirement in bc?

Registration of snowmobiles has been required in BC since the early 70's. 10 bucks and you only pay it once. Insurance is not a requirement yet though.

 

[LBZ]

Impaired people in the parking lot, people smoking marijuana on the lifts and in the gondola's, assault's that happen on the hill as well as theft from vehicles and personal effects. To name a few.

 

[Wilk INStheWEST]

Impaired people in the parking lot, people smoking marijuana on the lifts and in the gondola's, assault's that happen on the hill as well as theft from vehicles and personal effects. To name a few.

I understand impaired driving, and theft. But we all know how useful the police are when it comes to recovering stolen property. I can't say I've ever seen any sort of assault at a ski hill that would require police intervention, and I've been spending winters at ski resorts since I could walk. I don't understand why a cop would need to be on the hill. Perhaps patrolling parking lots or the base for theft and possibly impaired people heading to their car to drive home, but I don't like the idea of my tax dollars going to a cop out there skiing on the hill for the slight off chance that their may be an altercation on the hill, or some people hotboxing a gondy. The resort employees have the power to remove a patron from the hill.
Same thing goes for police officers in the back country. Officers at the staging areas for theft and impaired driving makes sense. I think Forestry officials should be enforcing those who go into closed areas, and then bring them to the RCMP if found in closed areas, but having cops out on the trails just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not one that is out there breaking the law, so I have nothing to hide or worry about, but I just think there are better ways our tax dollars could be used.

 

[struglin]

Same thing goes for police officers in the back country. Officers at the staging areas for theft and impaired driving makes sense. I think Forestry officials should be enforcing those who go into closed areas, and then bring them to the RCMP if found in closed areas, but having cops out on the trails just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not one that is out there breaking the law, so I have nothing to hide or worry about, but I just think there are better ways our tax dollars could be used.

my thoughts as well

 

[Luke The Drifter]

Is this really surprising to anyone? How many times have we read about guys getting loser pissed on the hill, then jumping in the truck and driving back to town? Or riding in closures? Stolen sleds? We did it to ourselves unfortunately. A few guys ruin it for everyone and no one wants to speak out against them or self police for fear of retaliation and/or confrontation. I remember reading a thread on here from a member that will remain unnamed, confronted a group riding out of bounds, was told to fawk off. He then took pics of their trucks and plates and posted them on here. It got pulled real fast and the guys who owned the trucks came on here uttering threats to said S&M member. Real classy...

Keep your sleds registered, insured, respect land closures, don't be a dink and you won't have problems. Pretty simple I think?

 

[LBZ]

Is this really surprising to anyone? How many times have we read about guys getting loser pissed on the hill, then jumping in the truck and driving back to town? Or riding in closures? Stolen sleds? We did it to ourselves unfortunately. A few guys ruin it for everyone and no one wants to speak out against them or self police for fear of retaliation and/or confrontation. I remember reading a thread on here from a member that will remain unnamed, confronted a group riding out of bounds, was told to fawk off. He then took pics of their trucks and plates and posted them on here. It got pulled real fast and the guys who owned the trucks came on here uttering threats to said S&M member. Real classy...

Keep your sleds registered, insured, respect land closures, don't be a dink and you won't have problems. Pretty simple I think?

Exactly.

 

[struglin]

Exactly.

what are you gonna say when it gets to the point when they decide when and where we can ride? avy conditions high so were not allowing sledding today ect ect

 

[Wilk INStheWEST]

Is this really surprising to anyone? How many times have we read about guys getting loser pissed on the hill, then jumping in the truck and driving back to town? Or riding in closures? Stolen sleds? We did it to ourselves unfortunately. A few guys ruin it for everyone and no one wants to speak out against them or self police for fear of retaliation and/or confrontation. I remember reading a thread on here from a member that will remain unnamed, confronted a group riding out of bounds, was told to fawk off. He then took pics of their trucks and plates and posted them on here. It got pulled real fast and the guys who owned the trucks came on here uttering threats to said S&M member. Real classy...

Keep your sleds registered, insured, respect land closures, don't be a dink and you won't have problems. Pretty simple I think?

RCMP in the staging areas are the best way to deal with guys coming off the hill drunk and driving home, or for stolen sleds. RCs on the hill isn't going to stop that. It may stop guys getting wasted at the cabin, but they will just head into the trees and do their drinking. Too much space out there to police that. But if you get them when they all funnel down to their trucks, they WILL get them. As far as stopping sledding in closures, a helicopter is the best way to do that. They will get the best vantage point and be able to cover the most area quickly. A good camera will be able to accurately identify who exactly is in the closure, and that can be passed along to the RCs who will be able to pick that person up at the staging area. Yes, a chopper isn't cheap either, but I'd rather have my tax dollars go towards a chopper that will get the guy, rather than 2 cops on sleds possibly finding the odd guy in a closure or drinking on the hill.

 

[tmo1620]

We see them all summer on quad trails. Checking plates etc..

Sure glad I dont quad where you do, never seen them more than a km or 2 away from the Tim Hortons around here

 

[snopro]

RCMP in the staging areas are the best way to deal with guys coming off the hill drunk and driving home, or for stolen sleds. RCs on the hill isn't going to stop that. It may stop guys getting wasted at the cabin, but they will just head into the trees and do their drinking. Too much space out there to police that. But if you get them when they all funnel down to their trucks, they WILL get them. As far as stopping sledding in closures, a helicopter is the best way to do that. They will get the best vantage point and be able to cover the most area quickly. A good camera will be able to accurately identify who exactly is in the closure, and that can be passed along to the RCs who will be able to pick that person up at the staging area. Yes, a chopper isn't cheap either, but I'd rather have my tax dollars go towards a chopper that will get the guy, rather than 2 cops on sleds possibly finding the odd guy in a closure or drinking on the hill.

I still think the answer on the whole closure area/infraction problem is a bounty hunter program put in place.Pay peeps to rat out rats that ride in closure area's. Everyone carries a camera phone nowadays. That or more volunteer patrollers watching these area's and reporting infractions. I don't think it is financially feasible for cops to do this but they would be more than happy to meet the closure runners at the parking lot.Just my thought?

 

[Braddock54]

Stupidest comment I have heard all night.

No, THIS is the stupidest comment below.

the police in the back country should be alarming to anyone, even, no, ESPECIALLY the law abiding..The RCMP have the freedom and power to take away any of your rights and liberties, based solely on their say so, regardless if you're innocent....If you think you're innocent until proven guilty, you've never had a clown pissed off at you. They can bring down a world of trouble, based merely on their 'instinct' or perception of you....then you pay 10's of thousands of dollars in lawyer fees just to have the crown say, "our bad, charges withdrawn" Innocent until proven? no. if it comes to your word against the clown, you lose. end of story. Don't ride with them, don't show them any quarter. They're not out there to look out for us. they are there to screw you. law abiding or not.

 

[LBZ]

what are you gonna say when it gets to the point when they decide when and where we can ride? avy conditions high so were not allowing sledding today ect ect

The government already does say where we can ride and when.
But they will never say today you can't ride here because avy risk is high. They don't have the resources or manpower to enforce it. And why would they want to? Do you guys think none of them go in the back country on their own time to enjoy it like the rest of us?