800R big bore kits....whose do you have, and how's it workin?

[fredw]

i said that it took me 2hrs to send bb away.... i have done the removal and install more than a few times, and 3 to 4 hrs max, start cooking...lol

if you can install a big bore in 2 hours i will cook you a gigantic cookie.

 

[DaveB]

I'm with Fred....couple hours MAX...even with beers.

Edit: I like chocolate chip.

 

[turbostang]

ill try and sum my set up for ya,here goes a@e racing 860 bb,its a 163 x with 2.5 cammo extreme,stock gearing,bored carbs done by rich daily,custom cut rktec domes done by dave french for the twin jaws,running 560 main jets 22.5 pilots 15 thousand shim on the needles,mix three gallons c 14 per tank might be overkill but real safe,have air box mod as per gregs recomendation at jaws,ecm has been done by tom lawrence race department,clutching is dj new helix and mountian ramps running 20.5 grams of pin weight not sure but it might pull more,waiting for joe to discuss very happen with it,and yes my sled has been on the dyno,180 horse is where it leveled of at,115 foot pounds of torque,just got back in from aride with a budy that has a supergharged apex 8 pounds of boost driving along neck and neck,pretty cool would of liked to be in some big hills,all in all this setup works took me along time to get it there but know its fun if i can answer any quetions for anyone i will certianly try ...be safe and have fun.

 

[oler1234]

Arctic Edge 860 kit, 13.5 head cut by lindermann, port and polish, jaws twin pipes, bondi air box, slp intake, engine tech thermostat, 560 main jets with .30 shims, pulling 2mm oversize rollers total 19.5grs with 160/290 primary, 410 ramps, 46/44 helix and stock secondary spring. 21/49 gearing (might goto a 23 top) Stock camo track. Ohh and a little shot of spray (50ish:d).... pull n go all day with 92 in the tank.

 

[TABSTER]

anyone have any dyno time with their beast? maybe a little proof of what kinda HP/ torque these kits make....feel free to PM or email if you would rather keep it on the low down.

 

[turbostang]

next time im at my dealer i will see if i can get the print out,in the mean time feel free to call dave at a@e racing 1 403 362 6401 and tell him that phil told you to call no bs here,i have nothing to hide,only reason i didnt take the print out was i was so dam excited never even tought to grab it.not sure if elder1234 had his dynoed but i no brent linderman has a dyno in his shop .

 

[TABSTER]

i've recieved some numbers....Thanks so much. A couple others for comparison would be cool......

 

[maxwell]

although dyno numbers are cool and good for comparison a sled that makes good power on the dyno can run like a bag og crap on the hill. not saying any of these do but its only one thing to consider

 

[fredw]

phil i have a dyno in my garage you can try out......................... its the primary clutch off my 880, we can swap and see if you can pull the rpm, much more reliable at 8000 feet than daves

next time im at my dealer i will see if i can get the print out,in the mean time feel free to call dave at a@e racing 1 403 362 6401 and tell him that phil told you to call no bs here,i have nothing to hide,only reason i didnt take the print out was i was so dam excited never even tought to grab it.not sure if elder1234 had his dynoed but i no brent linderman has a dyno in his shop .

 

[turbostang]

fred you no dam well that primary goes with secondary,so unless a guy tryed it all well it doesnt make much sense,all i know is my sled is a blast right now,so im not interested in trying other peoples stuff but in the mean time if we run into one another we could do some arm drops side by side comparision just for fun,also pretty sure you run different gearing,alot of variables here.by the way i have some clutch stuff here if you got any buddys that are intersted.

 

[TABSTER]

There is definetly lots of variables that change the outcome it seems. From what i am reading. so many things. clutching, porting, exhaust, reeds, gearing, jetting, tracks, ecm flashing or not, timing, fuels.

wow.... a bit overwelming. There dosen't seem to be a out of the box kit, or set up. lots of testing and tuning to find what works seems like.

Thanks for all the info guys!... really appreciate it..... so does Teeroy... i think...lol

 

[turbostang]

thank you tabster.

 

[tukernater]

There is definetly lots of variables that change the outcome it seems. From what i am reading. so many things. clutching, porting, exhaust, reeds, gearing, jetting, tracks, ecm flashing or not, timing, fuels.

wow.... a bit overwelming. There dosen't seem to be a out of the box kit, or set up. lots of testing and tuning to find what works seems like.

Thanks for all the info guys!... really appreciate it..... so does Teeroy... i think...lol

thats why some work and some dont,some people can set them up ,,there all diffrent NOT FOR EVERYONE

 

[oler1234]

linderman does dyno his stuff, i was told when i bought the kit the LOWEST PUMP GAS setup he has seen is 175hp. At 175hp that is just his kit (head mod) and pipes, no air box mods or anything else. Air box mods can yield around 2.5-5hp and thats on crappy crowsnest air too. Most would come in around the 178 to 183hp mark. obviously no engine is the same and some come higher than 183. As for reeds 95% of the time he never found it would increase a peak number, but its not always whats at the top that counts. And with that said someone else's kit may bring in HP with reads. Never asked what a pure race gas version would bring out but i'd image atleast 185 and better.

bottom line, i wouldnt mix match kits and parts between diffrent builders unless it is recommended, could get bad results. IE i dont hear of to many people mixing up a DJ kit with a rooster built kit unless your somewhat advanced??

 

[TABSTER]

i'd like to see them dyno numbers of the 175 plus HP BB kits that run pump gas...if possible. that would be crazy... crazy awesome!

 

[TABSTER]

again thanks guys and gals who have devulged info.....wicked!

 

[HiLlClImB911]

phil i have a dyno in my garage you can try out......................... its the primary clutch off my 880, we can swap and see if you can pull the rpm, much more reliable at 8000 feet than daves

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh now fred w is on snow and mud talking about the miracle 880. get your shovels out guys cause the bs is gonna get thick around this site like the others with fred and his 880 that is best thing since sliced bread, isnt that true fred.

 

[oler1234]

i'd like to see them dyno numbers of the 175 plus HP BB kits that run pump gas...if possible. that would be crazy... crazy awesome!

come out for a ride with me, i'll show you a 175hp + pump gas big bore

Jaws also makes a big bore kit, claiming 20+hp over stock which i would belive. There kit includes the twin pipes.

 

[TABSTER]

come out for a ride with me, i'll show you a 175hp + pump gas big bore

Jaws also makes a big bore kit, claiming 20+hp over stock which i would belive. There kit includes the twin pipes.

i'd love to go for a rip.... i had a incident on a build and am layed up/ busted up.

 

[TABSTER]

i would like to see the dyno sheets still though. Lots of claiming with very little info to back it up. i guess what i am saying is i would like to see dyno results for these kits making the HP that they, they being the builders and the pilots claim...... why spend 3000 dollars on a big bore if it only makes 8 to 12 hp... and believe me this is proven by dyno testing. call me a dipchit, but that's a lot of $$$ for little return.
we are all taking someone elses word, Lots of claiming... no proof to back it. all that being said i don't expect a BB kit to rip your arms off, just for it to do what "they" say it will....

anyone else feel the same???