7 officers suspended in Rochester

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I remember reading a number of articles over the years about police dealings with individuals on PCP. From memory..... bouts of superhuman strength, very high tolerance to pain, tolerance to tasers, violent outbursts....

If someone cares so little about their life, why should police officers be penalized for doing whatever it takes to subdue a crazed individual, in a situation that could lead to unpredictable bizarre and dangerous behavior? Police aren't perfect, but we've f***ed them over enough to put our nation in jeopardy, more or less depending on the area.
 

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I remember reading a number of articles over the years about police dealings with individuals on PCP. From memory..... bouts of superhuman strength, very high tolerance to pain, tolerance to tasers, violent outbursts....

If someone cares so little about their life, why should police officers be penalized for doing whatever it takes to subdue a crazed individual, in a situation that could lead to unpredictable bizarre and dangerous behavior? Police aren't perfect, but we've f***ed them over enough to put our nation in jeopardy, more or less depending on the area.
yes i have heard that as well about pcp. I think the investigation will take that into account as I have said before it is unfortunate for everyone involved the diseased brother I believe had to phone 911 because he worried for everyone's safety around the deceased.
 

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I remember reading a number of articles over the years about police dealings with individuals on PCP. From memory..... bouts of superhuman strength, very high tolerance to pain, tolerance to tasers, violent outbursts....

If someone cares so little about their life, why should police officers be penalized for doing whatever it takes to subdue a crazed individual, in a situation that could lead to unpredictable bizarre and dangerous behavior? Police aren't perfect, but we've f***ed them over enough to put our nation in jeopardy, more or less depending on the area.

Yea I agree. I think a lot of these idiots expect cops to risk their life with these lunatics, if they think it's so easy they are welcome to become cops. It's easy to pick apart their actions after as a armchair quarterback, but it's a million times different making a split second decision in the heat of the moment. The thing people need to get through there heads that would mean a lot less people dying to cops is, don't make them nervous or give them a reason to think you're a threat. I have yet to see a cop kill someone who was just standing there doing absolutely nothing.
 

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yes i have heard that as well about pcp. I think the investigation will take that into account as I have said before it is unfortunate for everyone involved the diseased brother I believe had to phone 911 because he worried for everyone's safety around the deceased.

And yet he blamed the cops for what they did, even though he called them! If it was so easy to deal with, he should have done it himself. He's a fawking idiot.
 

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And yet he blamed the cops for what they did, even though he called them! If it was so easy to deal with, he should have done it himself. He's a fawking idiot.
not sure if his brother witnessed how the police handled it but i am sure it will come out in the investigation
 

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I've been involved firsthand with addicts who have subjected themselves to large doses of meth and other drugs.....we arrive for an overdose, the person is stuporous, incoherent and almost unresponsive...in the process of being assessed, the person can go from stuporous to wide awake to extremely agitated in less than a minute.....they spit, they bite, they start yelling and screaming, thrashing around trying to hit, kick, grab you, as violent a person as you can imagine.....if you're lucky, they're not normally big and strong, because they are almost uncontrollable.... and if they have access to anything that could be used as a weapon against you, they'll try to use it.....its usually about the time that they're agitated and uncontrollable that the cops arrive on scene....and they're forced to subdue them for the safety of everyone, including the addict....and of course, thats about where the media starts showing the incident pretending that the poor addict was just sitting there.....
And once the addict is in the agitated and violent state, his body starts really reacting badly to the increased heart rate and breathing caused by the adrenaline interacting with the chemicals in his system..... just as quickly as he went from being stuporous to violent, he goes from violent and uncontrollable to unresponsive and in cardiac arrest....and normal resuscitative actions often are ineffective because of the damage to his body.....
Its a $hitty thing to be involved in, and almost always has a bad outcome.....and way to easy to blame the cops who are just doing what they're trained to do to protect everybody....
All the Monday morning quarterbacks need to shut up and get the facts before they open their mouths!!
 

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I've been involved firsthand with addicts who have subjected themselves to large doses of meth and other drugs.....we arrive for an overdose, the person is stuporous, incoherent and almost unresponsive...in the process of being assessed, the person can go from stuporous to wide awake to extremely agitated in less than a minute.....they spit, they bite, they start yelling and screaming, thrashing around trying to hit, kick, grab you, as violent a person as you can imagine.....if you're lucky, they're not normally big and strong, because they are almost uncontrollable.... and if they have access to anything that could be used as a weapon against you, they'll try to use it.....its usually about the time that they're agitated and uncontrollable that the cops arrive on scene....and they're forced to subdue them for the safety of everyone, including the addict....and of course, thats about where the media starts showing the incident pretending that the poor addict was just sitting there.....
And once the addict is in the agitated and violent state, his body starts really reacting badly to the increased heart rate and breathing caused by the adrenaline interacting with the chemicals in his system..... just as quickly as he went from being stuporous to violent, he goes from violent and uncontrollable to unresponsive and in cardiac arrest....and normal resuscitative actions often are ineffective because of the damage to his body.....
Its a $hitty thing to be involved in, and almost always has a bad outcome.....and way to easy to blame the cops who are just doing what they're trained to do to protect everybody....
All the Monday morning quarterbacks need to shut up and get the facts before they open their mouths!!

I don't think anyone has condemned anyone other than the family of the deceased and they did not do so on this forum
 

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7 officers suspended!!! that means they were condemned before a trial or hearing... Guilty until you prove yourself innocent and even then your guilty.
 
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7 officers suspended!!! that means they were condemned before a trial or hearing... Guilty until you prove yourself innocent and even then your guilty.
The incident happened in march. I do not believe they were suspended then. Do some research and let us know why they were suspended.
 
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