2020 G4 clutching

[48janke]

Alright I are completely brand new to the doo world. Have been a Polaris guy for years. I just picked up a brand new 2020 154 3”. First ride out I love it. Although I really feel it could use some clutching improvement. Being new to the doo clutches what are guys changing?

 

[cattechsummitrider]

There is lots you could on your own, but I don't like f-ing around when I am out west so I just buy a proven clutch kit Joe makes a good one ( Ibackshift ) and there are others

 

[maxwell]

Alright I are completely brand new to the doo world. Have been a Polaris guy for years. I just picked up a brand new 2020 154 3”. First ride out I love it. Although I really feel it could use some clutching improvement. Being new to the doo clutches what are guys changing?

What’s it not doing for you? Is this a 2020 expert?

 

[catrutt]

Wait until you are finished the breakin period it will feel different after that.

 

[jcjc1]

i was new to sledding in general and mountain sleds in particular when i picked up my 2020 Freeride 165. the first thing i noticed on the first day out was the high engagement and the amount of throttle blipping being done by myself and the two guys i was riding with. other than that, i thought the factory clutch performed fine. got home, did some research and learned that i a clutch kit would help so i bought an ibackshift kit and the installation tools and put it in. this well before the break in was over but that was of no concern to me. the difference was immediately noticeable to myself and my riding buddies. low engagement and nowhere near as much blipping required. in terms of overall clutch performance, it is smoother and most definitely outperforms stock. any new sled i get from here on out will have two things done to it right away--a clutch kit and lowering the gearing.

 

[NoBrakes!]

Why do you blip tho?

 

[pfi572]

Why do you blip tho?

Why do 95% of sledders do it ?
It’s crazy when you listen to them just move across the parking lot .
Then wonder why clutch components are wore out prematurely.

 

[LennyR]

Why do 95% of sledders do it ?
It’s crazy when you listen to them just move across the parking lot .
Then wonder why clutch components are wore out prematurely.

I think a lot of sledders never rode with the hoods off like we used to with the older sleds in the spring . Nothing will cure blipping as quick as that , when you watch what the clutches actually do each time you blip, it’s quite eye opening .

 

[jcjc1]

Why do you blip tho?

yeah i don't anymore but since the experienced guys were doing it, i figured it was just the nature of snowmobiles, after i was done for that first day of riding i was thinking about that and wondering about why factory engagement was so high and what could be done about it.

 

[snopro]

Why do you blip tho?

To make small piles of snow on the trail that turn into 3ft whoops till the groomer makes a pass. Thats the only thing I can think of?

 

[Dynamo^Joe]

Why do 95% of sledders do it ?
It’s crazy when you listen to them just move across the parking lot .
Then wonder why clutch components are wore out prematurely.

Yep, "Blippers". I was out with my best bud on the weekend past and his engages at 3000 rpms still. I dint change to the new spring yet. Were driving around in a swamp "the pillows" of it and he's fking blipping it. Were driving beside each other fairly close and I keep looking at him, "What are you doing"? So without him knowing it, tomo at the shop im changing his primary spring, AND im cutting a 1/4 turn off of it so it has 2500 engagement speed (i tested this already, haha) and we're gonna stop that fkin blipping. Heh, makes me think i should make a sticker for him

 

[revbyu]

Im new to the 850 this year - i dont blip but - low rpm and when the trail is whooped - i definitely dont like the clutch on / off engagement , think different spring /ramp angle would help in the aggressiveness of stock clutching

 

[NoBrakes!]

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I’d buy that sticker

 

[Dynamo^Joe]

Im new to the 850 this year - i dont blip but - low rpm and when the trail is whooped - i definitely dont like the clutch on / off engagement , think different spring /ramp angle would help in the aggressiveness of stock clutching

Find out what the primary clutch spring is.
Lets for fun say its a 170/350. 170 is the start force that controls the engagement speed. 350 is the pounds compressed at full shift, maximum vehicle speed (lets say 80mph for lack of better example)

Simply get a primary spring with lower start force and be within say 20 pounds of the finish force.
Example is 170/350
there is 150/350,
there is a 100/360
each lower start force will lower the engagement speed and make the clutching engage more smooth than a higher start force.

 

[Dakine879]

i thought it was just me who couldn't stand constant throttle blipping around sleds....glad i'm not 100% crazy.

 

[Mcstuck87]

Didn’t the blipping come from race sleds when everyone started buying the iqr’s and the rev x and pro x. I feel like the blipping era came from those days ( I was a flat lander back then)

 

[drew562]

Didn’t the blipping come from race sleds when everyone started buying the iqr’s and the rev x and pro x. I feel like the blipping era came from those days ( I was a flat lander back then)

Your on it. Also blipping pre Efi Sleds prevented mid range burn down on the trails at low elevations . Braaap.
EFI Sleds run clean all the time. Blips not required

 

[Mcstuck87]

I’d buy that sticker

I second that

 

[bobsledder]

To make small piles of snow on the trail that turn into 3ft whoops till the groomer makes a pass. Thats the only thing I can think of?

And to clean the snow off the ice on the first few km of trail down low Around here they are referred to as the Alberta Blippers

 

[Mountainman52]

Your on it. Also blipping pre Efi Sleds prevented mid range burn down on the trails at low elevations . Braaap.
EFI Sleds run clean all the time. Blips not required

You Sir are a 100 % correct !!