2013 163 Summit going to a 3"

[King]

Is it possible to take the drivers and driveshaft off of a 2015 T3 (163) and bolt onto/into my 2013 163XM Summit? Anybody else done this mod, any problems? Thanks ahead for any input.

 

[oler1234]

have at er... they will work

 

[pfi572]

Yes they will switch over with problem.

 

[King]

Thanks for the reply. One more thing. Will the primary drive clutch and secondary driven clutch need to be swapped over as well? Or is this a non issue, or can they be swapped over?

 

[pfi572]

Clutches switch over as well.
Not required . Just tuning required for the 2013.

 

[King]

Thanks guys I appreciate the info

 

[catrutt]

Don't do it ! I had a friend make the swap and it was not great . A t3 has more clearance on the tunnel which is key. A t3 will do circles around a xm with a 3 in. He actualy found the stock track worked better than the taller lug, real world test.

 

[maierch]

Don't do it ! I had a friend make the swap and it was not great . A t3 has more clearance on the tunnel which is key. A t3 will do circles around a xm with a 3 in. He actualy found the stock track worked better than the taller lug, real world test.

Did your friend change the clutching and chain case gearing when putting a bigger track and smaller drivers on? If he didn't it would no doubt be a turd.

I've seen it work well on multiple occasions. If you use T3 clutching and gearing as a starting point I don't think you'll be disappointed.

 

[King]

Thanks for the info guys. I looked on the BRP website and I should only have to change the small sprocket from a 19 to a 21 (the large chain sprocket is the same "51") and the chain is the same. Looks like I will be putting in a 3". With a little elbow grease of course.

 

[maierch]

Thanks for the info guys. I looked on the BRP website and I should only have to change the small sprocket from a 19 to a 21 (the large chain sprocket is the same "51") and the chain is the same. Looks like I will be putting in a 3". With a little elbow grease of course.

You might think about trying to find a set of 438 T3 primary ramps and the helix part numbers are different however I'm not sure what the difference is.

 

[King]

I am definitely going to throw the 438 ramps in, probably leave the helix alone until I see how she pulls. I have played with clutching quite a bit so I know what I am looking for. First track change though. Lol

 

[Foxstar45]

Have you or anyone else considered going with the new 3.5 pitch 3'' track? Avid is making the drivers but I don't see the track listed in the parts catalog. 10# lighter and the extra inch between paddles should help grip the snow better.

 

[towerrigger]

I am definitely going to throw the 438 ramps in, probably leave the helix alone until I see how she pulls. I have played with clutching quite a bit so I know what I am looking for. First track change though. Lol

Do the skid relocate as well to match the T3. SHR make a kit that does this. Includes new drop brackets for rear and template to drill hole in the tunnel for the front. I made my own and bought the drop brackets from doo. Worked really good. Sled handles a lot differently, I also have the T3 front end as well so that probably helps.

 

[oler1234]

Thanks for the info guys. I looked on the BRP website and I should only have to change the small sprocket from a 19 to a 21 (the large chain sprocket is the same "51") and the chain is the same. Looks like I will be putting in a 3". With a little elbow grease of course.

Go take a look at the summit improvement thread.

if interested I have a set of dynamoe joe mountain ramps for sale $100... They are the same as the 438 ramps.

 

[gofast89]

What size of track are you using? I went from a 154 2.5 to a 154 3". Have 19/51 gears out of the box and changed ramps to 413s and lighter pin weight with the 2.5. Worked great but now with the 3" i find i could backshift quicker

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