teeroy
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fixed it for you. not all of them are "coming apart"
2010 plumit 800r problems
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fixed it for you. not all of them are "coming apart"
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Warhawk
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well i guess you must have got a mid week sled not a monday or friday sled.
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I ride with 3 other 08's, and an '09. the other 08's have more mileage than mine, there hasn't been one back to the dealership here for a failed crank yet.
there are at least 10 peeps on this forum alone that have ridden with me quite a few times in the mountains, and all of them will tell you I don't pussy it around either. don't know what else to tell you other than these are my experiences with the XP. once dialed in they are competent mountain sleds.
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yes you are right (((once dialed in))) the heat build up is a huge problem. once this is fixed yes the crank should last a little longer.
this was the whole point of this thread BRP has not done all they could to make this sled a good sled. Old technology on the crank they have used this for years and have had problems in the past. Yes thier are lots of BRP products out but cat has a huge following as well.
Yes DOO have the new etec and that system has been in the marine industry for years it has proven itself. The worst part is they put the great technology of etec on a base like the 800r bottom end.
they could have started with a better bottom end and they would be miles ahead of everybody. pretty sure that people will not be happy when 800etecs are having the same problems that 800r's have had.
just my 2 cents
once this engine is together i am going to be doing some venting and getting the clutches set up
this was the whole point of this thread BRP has not done all they could to make this sled a good sled. Old technology on the crank they have used this for years and have had problems in the past. Yes thier are lots of BRP products out but cat has a huge following as well.
Yes DOO have the new etec and that system has been in the marine industry for years it has proven itself. The worst part is they put the great technology of etec on a base like the 800r bottom end.
they could have started with a better bottom end and they would be miles ahead of everybody. pretty sure that people will not be happy when 800etecs are having the same problems that 800r's have had.
just my 2 cents
once this engine is together i am going to be doing some venting and getting the clutches set up
zal
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Yeah, I do have to say that Teeroy does push his sled to the limit. He doesn't hold back and that thing keeps going. Not to my knowledge has he had a lick of troubles.
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so teeroy what modifications have YOU done???????
teeroy
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lightwieght muffler, clutching and gearing, tower brace, and a fresh air intake. changed the track this past fall because the swiss cheese stocker came apart, but other than that it is bone stock.
WTF?? How did I get pulled into this - Fugg that
- Warhawk does this sh!t for a living why does he need me?? he doesn't. Stock sucks anyway, Warhawk - just bore that beotch to 880, shave the head, a little porting and be done with it, when you come out bring both sleds and then you have a back up. Sure I like fooling with this stuff but I spend lots of time monkeying with my own as it is. Between my wife's back, my two sleds, Lon's sled, Ian's, and my hilllclimb bike...my fingers are already sore from all the massaging...... 
imdoo'n
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you are always massaging something, maybe you got yourself a bad case of carpal tunnel. just trying to make sure you don't get gored with to much time on your hands.:d you ole softy.
lons sled, thought that puppy was fixed. i've got a few that you could look at if you have the time:d they say if you want something done take it to a busy man:d:d
lons sled, thought that puppy was fixed. i've got a few that you could look at if you have the time:d they say if you want something done take it to a busy man:d:d
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okay so i see the things that you have done ALL help with Keeping the clutches COOler as a result less heat to bake out the grease. What have all your other buddys done with there's, let me guess similar stuff
as a heads up the NB52 isoflex is marginal for the application that it is used in. have done alot of research on this. being a mineral based product it does not keep its viscosity as it gets hot a better grease is isoflexNB 152
NB 52 viscosity is 30 wieght at 40C
NB52 Viscosity is 5.9wieght at 100c
NB152 vis at 40C is 100
NB152 vis at 100C is 14.5
The NB 52 after 120c the boundry lubrication is GONE
I will be looking to find a synthetic replacement that has higher Viscosity levels in order to prevent this. also if you do what TEEROY is doing to lower the heat inside the engine compartment it will help as well.
just my 2 cents
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Modman You have a long road ahead of you LOL make sure you teach that little girl everything you know.
Imdoo'n Did lon actually fix the problem or is he just accepting it? Last i saw was at Christmas that plug was pretty white compared to the other one.
Imdoo'n Did lon actually fix the problem or is he just accepting it? Last i saw was at Christmas that plug was pretty white
compared to the other one.
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I can only find an Isoflex Topas NCA 152, has a 20c higher max operating temp....is that the one you're looking at?
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Warhawk
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no go to kluberssite NB152 but you need to be more concerned about the viscosity there is a big difference between them.
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teeroy
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changing to a different viscosity may be a good idea, but I still believe there is another contributing factor as to why the NB 52 boiled out in the first place. your information on the different isoflex is the first I have heard or read of it, thank you for that info.
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but I still believe there is another contributing factor as to why the NB 52 boiled out in the first place
teeroy like i said the problem is the design/ no air flow+ slow speeds +belt alignment issues=== crank grease problems
teeroy like i said the problem is the design/ no air flow+ slow speeds +belt alignment issues=== crank grease problems
Modman You have a long road ahead of you LOL make sure you teach that little girl everything you know.
Imdoo'n Did lon actually fix the problem or is he just accepting it? Last i saw was at Christmas that plug was pretty white
Yes, Lon fixed the problem by crashing into a tree!!!!
then he stuck a piston on the mag side again but it came free, still guessing it scarred his cylinder though. He hasn't looked yet - I think he is scared to. He said it didn't "feel" right though.........
imdoo'n
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was the tree stuff after the boys went to fernie. he had it working well then or so i heard. his problem is he keeps trying to fix it at the last minute with a bandaid. kick his out the door so i can get mine in.
warhawk it is not that hard to squirt a little grease in once and a while. get your clutches aligned and most of your issues will be gone. also a few vents will get rid of heat, as the xp's have no where to let heat out.
warhawk it is not that hard to squirt a little grease in once and a while. get your clutches aligned and most of your issues will be gone. also a few vents will get rid of heat, as the xp's have no where to let heat out.
The tree stuff was the day after you left I think. Just tagged a small one but slight dent in the pipe.
He stuck the piston the same day, was running good for 2 days, then on day 3 for no reason it went lean on the mag side. I'm starting to think his DPM is screwed, just a few things I read on here. no leaks in crankcase and doesn't make sense that it runs like a dream for 2 days and then all of a sudden BANG! He didn't change anything or even touch anything this time, it seems to change the jetting on it's own somehow. If it had an air leak or was jetted too lean from the start it wouldn't have lasted that long. This is why I'm thinking DPM. I told him to rip that thing off and just jet it for up top, and just leave the choke on a little for the ride up and down the trail (like I do), life would be much easier for him I think.
We'll see what he'll do it with it over the summer. I told him he might as well full mod it now, it's been just as much hassle as a mod sled anyway, why keep giving stockers a bad name?
Lots of room in the shop for your sled once I get my new double decker lift built. Hopefully within a couple weeks it will be done.
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The tree stuff was the day after you left I think. Just tagged a small one but slight dent in the pipe.
He stuck the piston the same day, was running good for 2 days, then on day 3 for no reason it went lean on the mag side. I'm starting to think his DPM is screwed, just a few things I read on here. no leaks in crankcase and doesn't make sense that it runs like a dream for 2 days and then all of a sudden BANG! He didn't change anything or even touch anything this time, it seems to change the jetting on it's own somehow. If it had an air leak or was jetted too lean from the start it wouldn't have lasted that long. This is why I'm thinking DPM. I told him to rip that thing off and just jet it for up top, and just leave the choke on a little for the ride up and down the trail (like I do), life would be much easier for him I think.
We'll see what he'll do it with it over the summer. I told him he might as well full mod it now, it's been just as much hassle as a mod sled anyway, why keep giving stockers a bad name?
Lots of room in the shop for your sled once I get my new double decker lift built. Hopefully within a couple weeks it will be done.
DPM goes full rich when it fails
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